Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-27 Thread Lester, Bob
Hi All, I do it backwards to that. I have Win10 home, VMware Workstation, and run my Linux VMs - CentOS 6 & 7 on it. It seems pretty snappy and no issues - at least for what I use it for. My environment: Satellite P75-A7100, Intel I7 - 4700MQ, 4-cores, 8 logical. 24GB RAM. SSD

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-27 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Frank Swarbrick < frank.swarbr...@outlook.com> wrote: > What kind of performance do you get running W10 on a Linux VM? I tried > running W10 under a VM on Mac OS and the performance was dreadful. I ended > up buying a new laptop with W10 on it. > > ​I don't have

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-27 Thread Frank Swarbrick
What kind of performance do you get running W10 on a Linux VM? I tried running W10 under a VM on Mac OS and the performance was dreadful. I ended up buying a new laptop with W10 on it. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of

Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-27 Thread Bill Wilkie
I never saw that one, I'll give it a Try. Thanks Bill From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Barkow, Eileen Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 12:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Windows

Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-27 Thread Barkow, Eileen
To turn off windows 10 updates: ctl-alt-delete->task manager->services->wuauserv->right click->stop -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Clark Morris Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 12:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-26 Thread Bill Wilkie
To set a metered connection in Windows 10 and stop the automatic updates: Select Start Windows logo Start button > Settings Gear-shaped Settings icon > Network & Internet > Wi-Fi Expanding curves Wi-Fi icon > Manage known networks. 2 Select the Wi-Fi network > Properties > turn on Set as

Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-26 Thread Barkow, Eileen
There was an option somewhere to turn the updates off altogether - I don't remember right now but will check it when I get home and will let you know tomorrow. These updates were driving me crazy - I was even trying to blame the problem on Walmart since I bought the discounted refurbished

Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-26 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 26 Jun 2017 08:45:34 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main ebar...@doitt.nyc.gov (Barkow, Eileen) wrote: >I thought that the Windows 10 Update problems were due to something in the way >that Windows 10 had been mis-installed or upgraded from Windows 7 on my >refurbished computer. >It

Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-26 Thread Barkow, Eileen
I thought that the Windows 10 Update problems were due to something in the way that Windows 10 had been mis-installed or upgraded from Windows 7 on my refurbished computer. It would just update and update and then claim that the updates could not be completed for some reason. After researching

Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-25 Thread Mike Schwab
I got a really cheap eee 10 inch laptop from woot.com. Would not connect to wifi. Did a search on the message and it was a bad wifi driver. Downloaded another Linux distribution and installed. On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 6:51 AM, Bill Wilkie wrote: > The choices you get

Assume versus understand was Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-25 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 25 Jun 2017 08:39:25 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main idfli...@gmail.com (scott Ford) wrote: >I firmly believe criteria thinking is important in Windows,unix,Linux and >of course the "Z system" world. >Many of the same theories and practices apply. Everyday I run into people >who

Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-25 Thread scott Ford
I firmly believe criteria thinking is important in Windows,unix,Linux and of course the "Z system" world. Many of the same theories and practices apply. Everyday I run into people who have a tough time with system installs , system problems because instead of understanding how something works

Re: Windows 10 auto update was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-25 Thread Bill Wilkie
I hear that. I was shutting down due to a really bad T-Storm and had tom wait for updates to complete. SCARY! Bill From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Clark Morris Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017

Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-25 Thread Bill Wilkie
The choices you get are UPDATE AND RESTART or UPDATE AND SHUTDOWN. But you must install the updates. I learned later after having numerous crashes that you can set the METERED CONNECTION and it will stop the automatic updates. But even that comes with some quirks. For example, I set it on my

Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-24 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 24 Jun 2017 12:43:13 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main idfli...@gmail.com (scott Ford) wrote: >Guys, > >I am a bit different. We run z/PDT on OpenSuse Leap 42.2 x64..running z/OS >2.2 . >But we us Windows and Linux for our LDAP with are STC agents on z/OS. I am >basically all alone

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-24 Thread scott Ford
Guys, I am a bit different. We run z/PDT on OpenSuse Leap 42.2 x64..running z/OS 2.2 . But we us Windows and Linux for our LDAP with are STC agents on z/OS. I am basically all alone with other developers. My laptop runs Windows 10 Pro with a Tn3270 client and use ssh. I am seeing a lot of

Re: Windows 10 auto update was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-23 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
SPE is very much alive and well, especially since the change to two-year cycle for z/OS release. The big difference is that SPEs are effectively part of the normal maintenance stream. You can avoid installing one for a while, but eventually it gets preREQed by some other fix(es) that you may

Re: Windows 10 auto update was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-23 Thread Field, Alan
Sounds like a variant of the SPE (Small Program Enhancement) of a few decades ago :),m and Selectable Units. Alan Field Systems Engineer Principal Blue Cross Blue Shield of MN 651.662.3546 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On

Re: Windows 10 auto update was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-23 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
After our So Cal z User Group meeting last week, I feel that 'continuous update' has been misunderstood. We had a presentation on DB2 latest-greatest-and-beyond. I'm not a DB2 guy, but having lived in the copter-wash of DB2 version upgrades several times in the last few years, I see hope in

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-23 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Bobbie Justice < 0013e2d84072-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > "As I am reading this, all I can think of is Windows 10 and Automatic > updates. Since accidentally going to Windows 10, I have crashed my laptop > at least 10 times and spent many days and

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-23 Thread Bobbie Justice
"As I am reading this, all I can think of is Windows 10 and Automatic updates. Since accidentally going to Windows 10, I have crashed my laptop at least 10 times and spent many days and a lot of money trying to recover. Be careful what you wish for." Ditto on windows anything. I've had quite

Windows 10 auto update was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-23 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 23 Jun 2017 06:14:21 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main pacemainl...@gmail.com (Mark Pace) wrote: >I am afraid this new "Continuous Update" may lead to the same thing. As I understand it the continuous update is to be done by applying updates at times determined by the installation.

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-23 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
Gee, I think that has been floating around for as long as, "Mainframes Are Dead!" Al Nims Systems Admin/Programmer 3 UFIT University of Florida (352) 273-1298 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent:

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-23 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Some time ago an idea floated through my field of vision that IBM would eliminate even software distribution by supplying the entire OS on a chip. I must have missed the GA announcement... . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 09:15:21 -0400, Mark Pace wrote: >I am afraid this new "Continuous Update" may lead to the same thing. > >On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 6:41 AM, Bill Wilkie wrote: > >> As I am reading this, all I can think of is Windows 10 and Automatic >> updates. Since accidentally going to

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-23 Thread Mark Pace
I am afraid this new "Continuous Update" may lead to the same thing. On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 6:41 AM, Bill Wilkie wrote: > As I am reading this, all I can think of is Windows 10 and Automatic > updates. Since accidentally going to Windows 10, I have crashed my laptop >

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-23 Thread Bill Wilkie
As I am reading this, all I can think of is Windows 10 and Automatic updates. Since accidentally going to Windows 10, I have crashed my laptop at least 10 times and spent many days and a lot of money trying to recover. Be careful what you wish for. Bill

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-22 Thread Edward Gould
> On Jun 22, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Clark Morris wrote: >> __SNIP-- > > If the goal was to eliminate the need for highly technical people who > understand the platform and the tradeoffs, that is a futile goal

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-22 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca (Clark Morris) writes: > If the goal was to eliminate the need for highly technical people who > understand the platform and the tradeoffs, that is a futile goal for > any operating system. If the goal is to eliminate the need for > assembler coded exits, this is more

Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-22 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 22 Jun 2017 15:13:36 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main edgould1...@comcast.net (Edward Gould) wrote: >> On Jun 22, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Tom Conley wrote: >> >> On 6/22/2017 3:42 PM, Edward Gould wrote: >>>