Re: Google Paris datacenter down 2 weeks, no word on restore

2023-05-10 Thread Mike Schwab
Actually, no widespread reports on site outages, so looks like everything was replicated? On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 9:23 AM Matt Hogstrom wrote: > > Wow, the outlook for Google availability in Paris is “Cloudy”. > > I think the mainframe would have been impacted by this as well since this is > a

Re: Google Paris datacenter down 2 weeks, no word on restore

2023-05-10 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Wow, the outlook for Google availability in Paris is “Cloudy”. I think the mainframe would have been impacted by this as well since this is a data center design issue, no? Matt Hogstrom m...@hogstrom.org +1-919-656-0564 PGP Key: 0x90ECB270 Facebook LinkedIn

Re: Google Paris datacenter down 2 weeks, no word on restore

2023-05-10 Thread Bob Bridges
Not mainframe-related, but that article led me to this one: https://www.theregister.com/2023/05/08/ups_replacement_project_to_shut/ Irony alert: Major airport to be interrupted for two hours to replace UPS Three power outages have hit NAIA in the past year. What was that about ramping up

Google Paris datacenter down 2 weeks, no word on restore

2023-05-09 Thread Mike Schwab
https://www.theregister.com/2023/05/10/google_cloud_paris_outage_persists/ -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Markup languages - more on the shortcomings of MS Word

2022-12-26 Thread David Crayford
On 27/12/22 10:43, Ed Jaffe wrote: My team uses https://vuejs.org/. At the moment we only build HTML but there are packages to render a multitidue of different formats including PDF, word docs etc. Extensions are written in Typescript or Javascript so there is a massive eco-system to pull from

Re: Markup languages - more on the shortcomings of MS Word

2022-12-26 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 12/26/2022 6:17 PM, David Crayford wrote: My team uses https://vuejs.org/. At the moment we only build HTML but there are packages to render a multitidue of different formats including PDF, word docs etc. Extensions are written in Typescript or Javascript so there is a massive eco-system

Re: Markup languages - more on the shortcomings of MS Word

2022-12-26 Thread David Crayford
MS Word is a great product for it's main use case. I don't consider it a good choice for technical documentation and neither does the Information Developer in my team. There are many better tools out there, some of which are free. Documentation in today's world can be published in many

Re: Markup languages - more on the shortcomings of MS Word

2022-12-26 Thread Bob Bridges
In fact I did not. Good point. It happens I'm still logged on at the client cite; let's try it there... Nope, same problem. Nevertheless I was hasty to blame Word; it's very possible I just didn't set it up correctly in the .docx format. I know better than to manually set formatting

Re: Markup languages - more on the shortcomings of MS Word

2022-12-26 Thread Peter Sylvester
On 26/12/2022 20:52, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 09:52:16 -0500, Bob Bridges wrote: ... This morning I emailed the Word document to myself and tried saving it as PDF. Turns out Word is awful at that too. It skipped over most of the ToC and jumped from there straight

Re: Markup languages - more on the shortcomings of MS Word

2022-12-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 09:52:16 -0500, Bob Bridges wrote: >... >This morning I emailed the Word document to myself and tried saving it as >PDF. Turns out Word is awful at that too. It skipped over most of the ToC >and jumped from there straight to the beginning of the second chapte

Re: Markup languages - more on the shortcomings of MS Word

2022-12-26 Thread Peter Sylvester
and indexes in MS-Word for years, and publishing them as PDFs, with 100% success. Charles We seem to share a similar experience.  :-) Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists

Re: Markup languages - more on the shortcomings of MS Word

2022-12-26 Thread Charles Mills
I have avoided replying on this thread. It is not my job to shill for Microsoft on a mainframe forum. However, just to get the facts on the record, let me say that I have been composing very complex manuals with included text and generated TODs and indexes in MS-Word for years, and publishing

Re: Markup languages - more on the shortcomings of MS Word

2022-12-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 9:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Markup languages - more on the shortcomings of MS Word Once we were done with Christmas morning, my son and his family took off for other Christmas venues and I spent most

Re: Markup languages - more on the shortcomings of MS Word

2022-12-26 Thread Bob Bridges
need, but the web eventually yielded up manuals whose titles, at least, claim they're about LaTeX, LaTeX2e, TeXWorks and MikTeX. I have a lot of reading yet to do. This morning I emailed the Word document to myself and tried saving it as PDF. Turns out Word is awful at that too. It skipped over

Re: Word formattnig

2022-03-22 Thread zMan
Um. Pretty sure that was a joke, son. On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:47 PM Robin Vowels wrote: > On 2022-03-22 11:42, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > > On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:06:05 +1100, Robin Vowels wrote: > > > >> Notepad has a problem with large files. > >> It loads only the first part of a large file.

Re: Word formattnig

2022-03-21 Thread Robin Vowels
On 2022-03-22 11:42, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:06:05 +1100, Robin Vowels wrote: Notepad has a problem with large files. It loads only the first part of a large file. How large? No one should ever need more than 640K. Rubbish. On 2022-03-22 10:53, Bob Bridges wrote: I

Re: Word formattnig

2022-03-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:06:05 +1100, Robin Vowels wrote: >Notepad has a problem with large files. >It loads only the first part of a large file. > How large? No one should ever need more than 640K. >On 2022-03-22 10:53, Bob Bridges wrote: >> I >> ... But whenever I start up a new PC, one of

Re: Word formattnig

2022-03-21 Thread Robin Vowels
Notepad has a problem with large files. It loads only the first part of a large file. On 2022-03-22 10:53, Bob Bridges wrote: I agree. I get the impression that most Windows users ignore it entirely, and I know I have coworkers who use MS Word for pretty much all their note-taking. I use

Re: Word formattnig (was: Trouble ...)

2022-03-21 Thread Bob Bridges
I agree. I get the impression that most Windows users ignore it entirely, and I know I have coworkers who use MS Word for pretty much all their note-taking. I use Notepad for basic notes, and WordPad if I need fonts, italics and bullet points. I doubt my victims notice the difference, since

Re: Word formattnig (was: Trouble ...)

2022-03-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 18:21:02 -0400, zMan wrote: >Oh, if he pasted into an *emulator* maybe. Seems...unlikely, though? >OfficeVision in 2022??? > FSVO "emulator". Once I encountered a PostScript file in which text strings contained no blanks. Rather, every word was coded lik

Re: Word formattnig (was: Trouble ...)

2022-03-21 Thread Bill Johnson
I think this is the problem. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, March 21, 2022, 4:21 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 19:47:30 +, Seymour J Metz  wrote: >Sometimes I have been able to get good results by cut

Re: Word formattnig (was: Trouble ...)

2022-03-21 Thread Bill Johnson
Notepad is underrated. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, March 21, 2022, 3:47 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: Sometimes I have been able to get good results by cut from word, paste to notepad, cut from notepad, past to e-mail. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: Word formattnig (was: Trouble ...)

2022-03-21 Thread zMan
Oh, if he pasted into an *emulator* maybe. Seems...unlikely, though? OfficeVision in 2022??? On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 4:21 PM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > The incorrect abuttals were sporadic, perhaps consistent with screen > width, as if the display

Re: Word formattnig (was: Trouble ...)

2022-03-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 19:47:30 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Sometimes I have been able to get good results by cut from word, paste to >notepad, cut from notepad, past to e-mail. > The incorrect abuttals were sporadic, perhaps consistent with screen width, as if the display driver sta

Re: Word formattnig (was: Trouble ...)

2022-03-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
Sometimes I have been able to get good results by cut from word, paste to notepad, cut from notepad, past to e-mail. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf

Word formattnig (was: Trouble ...)

2022-03-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 18:17:49 +, Bill Johnson wrote: >Cut from word doc and paste to the list. I’ve often seen the list jam stuff >together. I’ve pasted the same thing elsewhere and it works perfectly. > I wonder whether there are ways to cleanse this, such as: o Export

Re: Is there a word for that?

2020-09-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
, 2020 11:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a word for that? I would agree to Dynamic Any JES2 change I make is called a dynamic change due to the use of $T commands. However, I always include - update the JES2 init deck so changes are not lost across COLD starts No change

Re: Is there a word for that?

2020-09-21 Thread Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services)
System Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: 21 September 2020 04:18 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a word for that? -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- I suppose dynamic would work

Re: Is there a word for that?

2020-09-20 Thread Reg Harbeck
>> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On >> Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson >> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 12:01 PM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Is there a word for that? >> >> This is a question about cat

Re: Is there a word for that?

2020-09-20 Thread Gibney, Dave
be so changed. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson > Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 12:01 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Is there a word for that? > > This is a question about categorizing JE

Re: Is there a word for that?

2020-09-20 Thread Lizette Koehler
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 12:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Is there a word for that? This is a question about categorizing JES2 commands. At one time, when we were still buckling our

Re: Is there a word for that?

2020-09-20 Thread Phil Smith III
Dynamic? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Is there a word for that?

2020-09-20 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
This is a question about categorizing JES2 commands. At one time, when we were still buckling our knickerbockers above the knee, many/most JES2 configuration definitions could be modified only by some kind of restart ranging from hot start to warm start to cold start. Some years ago JES2

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-09 Thread scott Ford
el (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf > of Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM > Sent: Monday, December 9, 2019 2:34 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...) Thanks. Again, one is never too old to learn, even at 98.5% of one's mainframe career. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-09 Thread scott Ford
even at 98.5% of one's mainframe > career. > > Kees. > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Seymour J Metz > Sent: 05 December 2019 19:49 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Misuse of

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-08 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...) The industry has long been afflicted by people slinging around words whose meanings they don't know. "Hexadecimal value" is just the tip of the iceberg. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.e

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Kirk Wolf
Who could have predicted that this thread would attract so much activity on ibm-main of all places? ;-) Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Mike Schwab
-- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw > Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2019 10:47 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS > ...) > >

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Charles Mills
of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...) Whatever.. But. I think the word in the title should be 'hexadecimal' rather than 'hexadecimnal' . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
ssion List on behalf of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 1:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...) "Hexadecimal" might be the most misused word in our industry. "Any hexadecimal character" -- u

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Whatever.. But. I think the word in the title should be 'hexadecimal' rather than 'hexadecimnal' . Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw | Security Lead | RSM Partners Ltd   Web:  www.rsmpartners.com ‘Dance like no one is watching. Encrypt like everyone is.’ -Original Message

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
r control characters with other uses. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 5:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...) I pretty much stuck to the term byte for that reason. A byte is eight 1/0 bits. A character starts to get off into cultural issues. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...) Not to mention that "character" is fuzzily defined. You might mean: byte character glyph grapheme .all of which will vary per code page, encoding, etc .phsiii (who

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 10:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...) Re: I'm similarly perplexed by IBM's frequent usage, as in: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSL

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Mike Schwab
; From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Tom Marchant > Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 10:52 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...) > > On Wed, 4 Dec

Re: Misuse of the word hexacriminal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Steve Smith
Good that someone like it :-). "Any hexadecimal character" is semantic nonsense (as many have said, one way or another). Nevertheless, it's a more-or-less established idiom meaning "any value"; and we know what they mean. sas On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 3:39 AM Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM <

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2019-12-04 23:37, Paul Gilmartin wrote: It was at the beginning of the text you trimmed: Re: I'm similarly perplexed by IBM's frequent usage, as in: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieaa200/ENQ_Description.htm ... The name can contain

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...) On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 10:01:36 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >"Non-printable" (or sometimes non-alphanumeric/national) is the word >people are looking for. I disagree. "non-printable" is a term that has li

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
See my answer to Gil about Venn diagrams. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: 04 December 2019 19:02 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 23:10:12 -0500, Gord Tomlin wrote: >On 2019-12-04 22:13, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> ISTR that many releases ago the document cited explicitly forbade >> DBCS characters so those would not have been considered "valid >> hexadecimal". I no longer see the restriction; I doubt that

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-04 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2019-12-04 22:13, Paul Gilmartin wrote: ISTR that many releases ago the document cited explicitly forbade DBCS characters so those would not have been considered "valid hexadecimal". I no longer see the restriction; I doubt that it was ever enforced. What document is "the document"? I

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
Re: I'm similarly perplexed by IBM's frequent usage, as in: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieaa200/ENQ_Description.htm ... The name can contain any valid hexadecimal character. ... On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 14:09:29 -0500, Gord Tomlin wrote: >On

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-04 Thread Phil Smith III
Not to mention that "character" is fuzzily defined. You might mean: byte character glyph grapheme .all of which will vary per code page, encoding, etc .phsiii (who was trying not to jump in here, but can't stand it)

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-04 Thread Charles Mills
s not so precise as, say, alphanumeric. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 10:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-04 Thread Charles Mills
Or, again, "any eight-bit value." Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Lock Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 1:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was R

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-04 Thread Charles Mills
, 2019 11:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...) On 2019-12-04 13:52, Tom Marchant wrote: > The point of using a term like "any hexadecimal character" is to > indicate that all 256 possible values in the byt

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-04 Thread Charles Mills
Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...) >From "any hexadecimal character" my first guess would be "any character in the ranges 0 to 9 and A to F", with a further guess about whether it accepts both upper and lower case. No

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-04 Thread Charles Mills
IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 10:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...) On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 10:01:36 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-04 Thread John Lock
On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 13:52 Tom Marchant < 000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > The point of using a term like "any hexadecimal character" is to > indicate that all 256 possible values in the byte are acceptable. The problem with that is “any hexadecimal character “

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-04 Thread Rupert Reynolds
>From "any hexadecimal character" my first guess would be "any character in the ranges 0 to 9 and A to F", with a further guess about whether it accepts both upper and lower case. Nothing else makes much sense to me :-) Rupert On Wed, 4 Dec 2019, 19:09 Gord Tomlin, wrote: > On 2019-12-04

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-04 Thread Lionel B Dyck
" - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 2:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...) On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 at 13:52,

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 at 13:52, Tom Marchant < 000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > The point of using a term like "any hexadecimal character" is to > indicate that all 256 possible values in the byte are acceptable. > It could just as well be "a byte with any hexadecimal

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-04 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2019-12-04 13:52, Tom Marchant wrote: The point of using a term like "any hexadecimal character" is to indicate that all 256 possible values in the byte are acceptable. Even that breaks down if you choose to let wide characters (e.g., UTF-16 or UTF-32) into the conversation. -- Regards,

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-04 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 10:01:36 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >"Non-printable" (or sometimes non-alphanumeric/national) is the >word people are looking for. I disagree. "non-printable" is a term that has little meaning. Even if you mean "non-printable using

Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-04 Thread Charles Mills
"Hexadecimal" might be the most misused word in our industry. "Any hexadecimal character" -- umm, can you give me an example of a non-hexadecimal character? Is x'C1' a hexadecimal character? Sure looks like hex to me. Hexadecimal is a *method of representation*. If I have

Re: MFA: An acronym that doesn't start with the word Mother

2019-09-10 Thread Jim Mooney
Hi Keith, I will send you a note off the list. Thx for replying. -Jim -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: MFA: An acronym that doesn't start with the word Mother

2019-09-06 Thread Keith Banham
Hi A lot of our customers have implemented MFA for their Windows logon but have not thought about or not implemented MFA on their z/OS applications for various reasons. However due to compliance regulations we are seeing a sea change and customers are now engaging with us for best practice etc.

Re: MFA: An acronym that doesn't start with the word Mother

2019-09-04 Thread Charles Mills
Of Jim Mooney Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 1:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MFA: An acronym that doesn't start with the word Mother Hi Ross, Thanks very much for the reply. We are currently evaluating IBM's MFA for zOS as well as other products. If I have questions I

Re: MFA: An acronym that doesn't start with the word Mother

2019-09-04 Thread Jim Mooney
Hi Ross, Thanks very much for the reply. We are currently evaluating IBM's MFA for zOS as well as other products. If I have questions I will contact you. I agree with you that it seems best to keep MFA on the mainframe. At this point, I am hoping to hear from other mainframe shops using a

Re: MFA: An acronym that doesn't start with the word Mother

2019-09-04 Thread Ross D Cooper
MFA solution, you can email me at: r...@us.ibm.com Best Regards, Ross Cooper From: Jim Mooney <0271a2edf589-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 08/30/2019 10:20 AM Subject: [EXTERNAL] MFA: An acronym that doesn't start with the word Mother Sent b

Re: An acronym that doesn't start with the word Mother

2019-08-30 Thread Charles Mills
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: MFA: An acronym that doesn't start with the word Mother We've been asked to implement MFA on the zOS Mainframe. I've read some threads on here, and it seems some have implemented IBM's MFA solution on zOS, and some have implemented MFA on 'winders.' The zOS

MFA: An acronym that doesn't start with the word Mother

2019-08-30 Thread Jim Mooney
We've been asked to implement MFA on the zOS Mainframe. I've read some threads on here, and it seems some have implemented IBM's MFA solution on zOS, and some have implemented MFA on 'winders.' The zOS solution is pricey so we are looking at alternatives. My question is: Does a windows

Re: Fwd: Grease is the word | Computerworld Shark Tank

2019-04-09 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Mark Regan wrote: >https://www.computerworld.com/article/3387937/grease-is-the-word.html Ouch! What a messy grease-up! ;-) What type of card reader has that specific conductive grease? Just curious. "The shop eventually received a working card reader, with conductive grease." - I hope that

Fwd: Grease is the word | Computerworld Shark Tank

2019-04-09 Thread Mark Regan
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3387937/grease-is-the-word.html Regards, Mark Regan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO

Re: Wh@ should we do? In a word: "calk."

2017-09-23 Thread scott Ford
Tomahawk cruise missiles up..find that dude On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 7:36 AM Yitsha'CK HeyZeus wrote: > Do you read anything? It's literally verifiable proof you are living in the > Matrix. > > On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 7:24 AM Edward Finnell < >

Re: Wh@ should we do? In a word: "calk."

2017-09-23 Thread Yitsha'CK HeyZeus
Do you read anything? It's literally verifiable proof you are living in the Matrix. On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 7:24 AM Edward Finnell < 000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Darren will track him down eventually. Wish I could whiteboard his mac > address. Anyway, there's plenty

Re: Wh@ should we do? In a word: "calk."

2017-09-23 Thread Edward Finnell
Darren will track him down eventually. Wish I could whiteboard his mac address. Anyway, there's plenty else to do.   In a message dated 9/23/2017 5:35:30 AM Central Standard Time, elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za writes:   He is always using another e-mail address to broadcast his nonsense.

Re: Wh@ should we do? In a word: "calk."

2017-09-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Mike Schwab wrote: >Religious blog with a some non-computer technical stuff. Yip, it is the same second-hand a$$hole who pestered many discussion lists the past few years. Search for his surname and you will see how many non-computer shit he posted on IBM-MAIN. He is always using another

Re: Wh@ should we do? In a word: "calk."

2017-09-22 Thread zMan
Somebody's off his meds. On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 3:44 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: > Religious blog with a some non-computer technical stuff. > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Adam Marshall Dobrin > wrote: > > http://bit.ly/2xWknYn > > > >

Re: Wh@ should we do? In a word: "calk."

2017-09-22 Thread Mike Schwab
Religious blog with a some non-computer technical stuff. On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Adam Marshall Dobrin wrote: > http://bit.ly/2xWknYn > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: LINK and high order word of R1

2016-06-14 Thread Peter Relson
If someone is curious why: -- low halves 2-13 are expected to be preserved, but -- high halves 2-14 are expected to preserved it relates to a call sequence that involves an old module that has no idea that high halves even exist, one case where that old module is entered via BASSM and returns

Re: LINK and high order word of R1

2016-06-13 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:05:40 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >Okay, got it. The rules for a called program and the rules for the IBM macros >are the same (except as otherwise explicitly specified): > >- The high halves of R2 through R13 must go back as they arrived. >- The high

Re: LINK and high order word of R1

2016-06-13 Thread Charles Mills
order word of R1 On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 11:19:06 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >In the description of LINK in Assembler Services I read > >... > >Does that mean that for standard "old-fashioned" AMODE 31 72-byte savearea >linkage I am obligated to save the high word of R1 befo

Re: LINK and high order word of R1

2016-06-13 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 11:19:06 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >In the description of LINK in Assembler Services I read > >... > >Does that mean that for standard "old-fashioned" AMODE 31 72-byte savearea >linkage I am obligated to save the high word of R1 before issui

Re: LINK and high order word of R1

2016-06-13 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
ee. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: LINK and high order word of R1 So you are saying "if you write a standard (legacy

Re: LINK and high order word of R1

2016-06-13 Thread Charles Mills
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 12:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: LINK and high order word of R1 On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 11:19:06 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >

Re: LINK and high order word of R1

2016-06-13 Thread Charles Mills
ubject: Re: LINK and high order word of R1 On 6/13/2016 11:18 AM, Charles Mills wrote: > Does that mean that for standard "old-fashioned" AMODE 31 72-byte > savearea linkage I am obligated to save the high word of R1 before > issuing LINK in a called program? If so, this would

Re: LINK and high order word of R1

2016-06-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 11:19:06 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: > >Does that mean that for standard "old-fashioned" AMODE 31 72-byte savearea >linkage I am obligated to save the high word of R1 before issuing LINK in a >called program? If so, this would seem to be a compatibility

Re: LINK and high order word of R1

2016-06-13 Thread Greg Dyck
On 6/13/2016 11:18 AM, Charles Mills wrote: Does that mean that for standard "old-fashioned" AMODE 31 72-byte savearea linkage I am obligated to save the high word of R1 before issuing LINK in a called program? If so, this would seem to be a compatibility issue for older code that

LINK and high order word of R1

2016-06-13 Thread Charles Mills
e savearea linkage I am obligated to save the high word of R1 before issuing LINK in a called program? If so, this would seem to be a compatibility issue for older code that uses LINK. Or is R1 fair game as a work register in a called program

Re: Word sizes was Re: hexadecimal?

2013-12-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In e1odb9ptb08f9rl26d93uugpu47jd9v...@4ax.com, on 12/22/2013 at 08:52 AM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca said: Also 48 bits on the Honeywell 800 and Burroughs B5000. Yes, and several others, for one of which I used to have lust in my heart. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg

Word sizes was Re: hexadecimal?

2013-12-22 Thread Clark Morris
by the architecture. For the S/360 it's 8-bit[1] bytes. I've seen word sizes of 12, 18, 24, 30, 36, 60 and 64 bits, words size of 10 decimal digits[2] and character size of 6 bits, and that leaves out the really old stuff. Also 48 bits on the Honeywell 800 and Burroughs B5000. Clark Morris Silly wabbit

Re: Word sizes was Re: hexadecimal?

2013-12-22 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
is stored in 8-bit long bytes. Data in a computer are stored in units dictated by the architecture. For the S/360 it's 8-bit[1] bytes. I've seen word sizes of 12, 18, 24, 30, 36, 60 and 64 bits, words size of 10 decimal digits[2] and character size of 6 bits, and that leaves out the really old stuff

Word usage (was WRItI)

2012-07-27 Thread David Stokes
We don't need Fun With Dick and Jane Whilst fully appreciating your usual humour, perhaps ironically I was using the word exotic very much in the sense that Mr. G. seems to prefer, although referring to other common usages as subliterate suggests one has a rather overly inclusive notion