Nothing I’ve stated is untrue. The jealousy from likely non college graduates
is obvious.
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On Monday, March 18, 2024, 11:16 AM, David Crayford
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> On 18 Mar 2024, at 22:33, Dave Beagle
> <0525eaef6620-d
> On 18 Mar 2024, at 22:33, Dave Beagle
> <0525eaef6620-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> LOL, I was a programmer for almost half my 40+ year career. IMS/COBOL DB/DC
> at first. Later mostly COBOL CICS and COBOL DB2. So I’m excellent in COBOL.
> In college, I programmed in PL/I, fo
LOL, I was a programmer for almost half my 40+ year career. IMS/COBOL DB/DC at
first. Later mostly COBOL CICS and COBOL DB2. So I’m excellent in COBOL. In
college, I programmed in PL/I, fortran, watfiv, pascal, and some others. Logic
is my forte. Math major helps. (Double major Comp Sci)
As for
Boy, ain't THAT the truth!, he says sadly, thinking of an app he didn't write
and is now responsible for maintaining.
This thing passes multiple values between programs using (if I understand it
correctly) a single character string consisting of many assignment statements,
which are then parsed
ymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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+1
Remember, Bill isn't really a programmer, no matter what name he uses. He
was a sysprog at best.
On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 4:21 PM Jared Hunter
wrote:
> Dave Beagle wrote:
> > Code reviews are dumb and not needed by good programmers
>
> Counterpoint: Code reviews are -most- essential when the a
Dave Beagle wrote:
> Code reviews are dumb and not needed by good programmers
Counterpoint: Code reviews are -most- essential when the authors are experts.
Why is that? Because experts are most able to churn out code that functions
correctly for today’s requirements, but that some less-expert f
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I suppose code reviews are like post-battle debriefs, in which every choice of
the co
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I think code reviews are very useful, especially
I think code reviews are very useful, especially for not yet experts. It
is good education for all levels.
We had reviews, and comments like
- Do you need a latch across these instructions for when there is
concurrent execution?
- If it abends here, how will the frr code ...
- Would it help captur
I really gotta get back into PL/1. It was my first language, and I still like
it. Just haven't used it in a few decades.
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/* The more sophisticated the technology, the more vulnerable it is to
primitive attack. People often overlook the
I suppose code reviews are like post-battle debriefs, in which every choice of
the commander is questioned, and when challenged with a better option he can
only say "I didn't think of that at the time". It must be extremely painful
for the guy in the glare of the spotlight, but if it's done rig
On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 at 11:42, Tom Harper <
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> David,
>
> Yes, assembler can be used to improve performance.
>
> In the 64 years I have been programming, I have used COBOL for three
> years, C++ for six years, and assembler for 55 years.
>
> But
“. . . no one but you
>>> will know how to fix it when it breaks . . . let someone do it in COBOL
>>> instead . . .”.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
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To rant on a related subject, I once worked at a company that instituted code reviews; a
new program would be gone over by a half-dozen coworkers to be sure it adhered to local
standards. This sort of thing is always painful to the coder, and n
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Just like any profession, 20% of the IT professionals are highly qualified. The
rest have achieved by luck, nepo
I recently argued with someone -- not here! -- when he was enthusiastic about
AI generating code. Poof, no programmers, he said. What about bugs, I asked?
Human-generated code has bugs, so will AI coding, since it will be trained on
... human coding. No problem he said, people will check the AI
Yep, I started in ‘81, with the same two Deltac courses. They took me from
trainee to retired in 40+ years. Not perfect but a great company.
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On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 4:44 PM, Bob Bridges
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No place is all bad. The same company started me, upon hiring, on several days
of Deltak courses, one on JCL and one on COBOL. It is to them that I owe a
lifelong familiarity with JCL. I wonder sometimes how mainframers get on
without it.
(Well, "lifelong": It was 1980, so I was probably 26
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> +1 from me on continuing to learn the tools of our profession
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> +1 from me on continuing to learn the tools of our profession. I use
> STRING and UNSTRING where the
Heh - I just used this tagline in an email to someone else, and it seems
appropriate here.
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/* I find that when someone's taking time to do something right in the present,
he's a perfectionist with no ability to prioritize, whereas when s
My boss at a later job heartily agreed with you, Shmuel. Not coïncidentally, I
liked him a lot :).
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/* You must ask for God's help. Even when you have done so, it may seem to you
for a long time that no help, or less help than you need,
> Bob Bridges
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>
> To rant on a related subject, I once worked at a company that instituted code
> reviews; a new program would be gone over by a half-dozen c
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Michael Oujesky
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Wonder how he made senior. Politics and not skills or expertise.
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+1 from me on contin
someone do it in COBOL instead . . ..
Peter
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To rant on a related subject, I once worked at a
company that instituted code reviews; a new
program wou
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To rant on a related subject, I once worked at a company that instituted code
reviews; a new program would be gone over by a half-dozen coworkers to be sure
it adhered to local standards. This sort of thing is always painful t
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To rant on a related subject, I once worked at a c
A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link.
Michael
At 11:37 AM 3/15/2024, Bob Bridges wrote:
To rant on a related subject, I once worked at a company that
instituted code reviews; a new program would be gone over by a
half-dozen coworkers to be sure it adhered to local standards. This
To rant on a related subject, I once worked at a company that instituted code
reviews; a new program would be gone over by a half-dozen coworkers to be sure
it adhered to local standards. This sort of thing is always painful to the
coder, and nevertheless (I admit reluctantly) can have consider
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