Thank you Mark. This is directed at IBM -
Auditors do not care tuppence whether a product is 'stable'. If a
product is used to support a production workload they expect it to be
*supported*. An auditor's reaction will vary from an 'observation' that
an unsupported product is being used, to a
Mike Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, this has been an interesting day. One of our commands to copy files
into production failed to copy a critical file because the output disk was
too full to handle the file.
Your DISKSIZE doesn't appear to be dealing with the 2-byte record length
Hello all Listers, thanks to all. I think I should let you
guys know the outcome of this project.
With an IBM ROC helping me all afternoon yesterday, we
finally conclued that it may be because of VM/ESA 2.30 is
lecking maintenances to be able to handle the newer
hardware (MP2003 and IBM 2105-F20
mapped = blocksize/4 /* # of blks mapped by a single ptr blk */
Recall that for RECFM F a pointer to the next level block requires
4 bytes, but for RECFM V 12 bytes are needed (4 bytes for block
number, 4 bytes for last record for that block, 4 bytes for the
offset into that block). So, I
We too have been reassured by Gerhard back in April in regards to our
Connect Direct product...
...The outcome basically is:
I will send you tape cartridge of VSE/VSAM for VM which can be copied
and redistributed by Sterling Commerce in case one of your existing
customers needs it and
Title: RE: RES: VSE/VSAM for VM
Since the product is s stable, then what is the cost to continue to support it?
It all looks like smoke and mirrors to me.
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU]On
Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent:
On Tuesday, 06/20/2006 at 08:35 EST, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Since the product is s stable, then what is the cost to continue to
support
it?
It all looks like smoke and mirrors to me.
It is actually expensive to maintain the support infrastructure. There
are a lot of
On 20 Jun 2006 at 9:47, Alan Altmark wrote:
Don't get me wrong - we didn't *want* to drop support for CMS/VSAM, but
its time has come. :-( And it does illustrate the apparent paradox of
investment: You invest your money in growth areas. When they become
stable, you take your money and
I'm looking for a spreadsheet, action plan, or simple list of steps I nee
d
to do in order to upgrade my VM ESA 2.2 system to Z/VM 5.x and at the sam
e
time move from an old multiprise 2003/103 to a shiney new IBM Z9.
It's been a few years since I've been in charge of a simultaneos VM and
FWIW, we definitely ran ESA 2.30 on our MP2003. It was so long ago I
can't recall if we needed a PTF for processor support or not, though.
Roland P. Chung wrote:
Hello all Listers, thanks to all. I think I should let you
guys know the outcome of this project.
With an IBM ROC helping me all
IBM and Georgia Tech researchers unveil a chip that runs at 500 Ghz when
cooled to -451 degrees (F) and at 350 Ghz at room temperature.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/20/technology/20chip.html?ei=5090en=215511bacfc970b5ex=1308456000partner=rssuserlandemc=rsspagewanted=print
DJ
To list(s),
We are migrating a VM/VSE user to a new system.
Currently I am running into some trouble initializing
the TCPIP for VSE stack. I am getting a IPL475E
message followed by an IPL471 message. On the old
system they have DEDICATE statements for addresses
C00 thru C0f as follows:
Title: Linux IPL volume
We are trying to IPL a LINUX guest where we have the volume attached 'CP ATTACH * ' or referenced with a LINK userid statement etc.
In other words we don't have it attached to the system (att system).
We keep receiving the below message:
Since this is under VM change the Dedicates to
DEDICATE C00 F000
.
.
DEDICATE C0F F00F
and your done.
Mark D Pace
Senior Systems Engineer
Mainline Information Systems
1700 Summit Lake Drive
Tallahassee, FL. 32317
Office: 850.219.5184
Fax: 888.221.9862
http://www.mainline.com
On Tuesday, 06/20/2006 at 05:03 ZE2, Shimon Lebowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
And once VSAM is unsupported, should I expect the next
version of CMS to have forgotten the DLBL and AMSERV
commands?
No. Those commands are part of CMS, not VSAM, and we wouldn't save any
support costs by
We have the z/VM 4.4 Tapes but would need
something from IBM saying it was ok for us to copy and give to you.
Jim Dodds
Systems Programmer
Kentucky State University
400 East
Main Street
Frankfort, Ky 40601
502 597 6114
From: The IBM z/VM
Operating System
On 6/20/06, Brian Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is the code you get when the device address you IPL'd does not have
an IPLable program on it.
Yep. If it was supposed to be linked as mini disk, it may not have
been from cyl 0. So the IPL program is on the virtual cylinder 0,
where that
Hi Tom, yes, only the support part. But for z/VM 4.40, it will be Out of Services on Sept. 30, 2006. Maybe you want to act fast.Regards,...RolandTom Duerbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is interesting.Apparently, IBM (VM group) is no longer supporting 31 bit hardware. Itseems to me
Hello Jim, great news!However, at the conference call, IBM rep. said "...I will licence the product ifyou can get a copy of z/VM distribution tape from somewhere else". However, he also said "(getting a copy other than from IBM)... is not condomed nor recommended."That is the
Roland,
I am very sorry about IBMs stand on
z/VM, but I will be glad to test those 5 3590 type J tapes that you think are
bad to see if it is the tape drive or actually the tapes that are bad.
Jim Dodds
Systems Programmer
Kentucky State University
400 East
Main Street
Don't have a spreadsheet for the cutover but I might be able to help with
the hcd. On z/os this is what we did
If you go into your hcd dialog select
Option 2 activate or process config data then select
Option 3 Build IOCP input dataset then select the processors IODF you wa
nt
Place it
Thanks all, Thanks all Got over that hurdle
I attached the volume to the system... ATT A3C7 system
Display shows DASD A3C7 CP SYSTEM LXND04 1
Coded mdisk statement MDISK A3C7 3390 0001 END LXND04
MR RVM WVM MVM (NOTE START AT CYLINDER 1, 0 FAILS)
Roland,
I am sorry, I thought for sure it was you
with the bad tapes. Well if you ever decide you need them checked just let me
know I will be happy to do it for you.
Jim Dodds
Systems Programmer
Kentucky State University
400 East
Main Street
Frankfort, Ky 40601
502 597 6114
To list(s),
Whomever answered my question earlier - thank you.
I changed my DEDICATE statements to point to the
addresses of the OSA (F000-F00F) and my TCPIP/VSE
stacks come up cleanly. Problem, I cannot PING to
those addresses from my PC and each stack can only
PING to itself. The OSA is also
Title: RE: Can I know how a PROFILE EXEC was invoked?
Look at this location in storage, will contain the last command entered from the console and blanks after CMS is IPL'd before anything is typed..
LASTCMND DC CL8' ' Last command issued
this is in the NUCON on my release at x'2A0'
#cp d
I am finding that using the Z890 ICC and either of my tn3270 clients to
connect to our ZVM system is quite a bit slower than using the TN3270
services provided by the TCPIP virtual machine.
The two clients I am using are Jolly Giant and Vista.
I've configured and tested the clients as models 2,
Title: Message
I'm
confused, IBM said they'd license z/VM 4.4.0 for you if you could get a copy of
the installation tape from another customer, but won't permit other customers to
send you a copy of the tape. Am I understanding the situation
correctly?
IF
permissionto borrow an existing
Jim
Can you tell what speed the OSA ICC card is running? 10 Mbs/100Mbs etc.?
eric
At 02:47 PM 6/20/2006, you wrote:
I am finding that using the Z890 ICC and either of my tn3270 clients to
connect to our ZVM system is quite a bit slower than using the TN3270
services provided by the TCPIP
Its 100 Mbs, full duplex.
There was no change when we changed FROM AUTO to 100 Mbs Full Duplex.
___
Jim Hughes
603-271-5586
Impossible is just an opinion.
Your career is what you're paid for, your calling is what you're made
for.
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=From: The IBM
We are having problems telnetting from one z/VM system to another z/VM
system. The network between the systems is through a netscreen that
creates a VPN tunnel. We can telnet from a pc on the vlan to each of the
host systems but we cannot telnet from one system to the other in either
direction.
On 6/20/06, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems to me that permission to get implies permission to send. However, I
don't think the stated permission to get is official, and probably cannot be
thought reliable unless stated in writing and signed by the appropriate
people. Let us
I think the mechanism for redirecting VSAM requests to DB2 VM was the
SUBSYS operand on the FILEDEF command that allowed a VSAM emulator to be
provided. I was hoping that this might provide a mechanism for us to do
something for NetMaster in VM, but unfortunately the facility was never
provided
Can I second this. This will also my employers plans
to ditch VM as the auditor will not allow us to use
unsupported software on mission critical systems
--- Jones, Ian H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you Mark. This is directed at IBM -
Auditors do not care tuppence whether a product is
We are trying to figure out if we can use Lotus NOTES relay email from VM out to the internet.
We would send the correct info to SMTP, SMTP would forward it on to NOTES and NOTES
would send it out to the internet.
Is this type of thing doable with VM (5.2) and NOTES?
Thanks.
Steve G.
Why do you want to send via notes instead of direct?
--- Steve Gentry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
We are trying to figure out if we can use Lotus
NOTES relay email from
VM out to the internet.
We would send the correct info to SMTP, SMTP would
forward it on to NOTES
and NOTES
would send
Steve,
Yes, we did just that for a little while. You need to configure TCPIP 198
file SMTP CONFIG parameter IPMAILERADDRESS with the IP address of your
Notes MTA (I'm not sure what that stands for but its the Notes server which
receives non-Notes email) server and VM SMTP will forward any
Hello
I need to learn how to reduce messages from TCP/IP
Server machine that are showed in zVM OPERATOR user (main console).
Since TCP/IP server machine runs disconnected, I
defined in directory a secondary console, but a lot of messages rolls due tcpip
traffic. There is a
We had to quit using it, however, because our
auditors were able to break
into it and it looked like it would take an exit to
stop them; and it
wasn't worth that. There were also other issues
around the corner
involving validation of the VM email sender. It
just got too messy for
what
The trouble with SMTP is that the E-Mail sender is
(usually) not verifiable. If you are just using NOTES
to relay out to the Internet this shouldn't be an
issue. However if you are going to allow Notes = VM
then it can be an issue for the Notes users. I think
the moral is that even on
Hello, VM experts,
I'm preparing myself for teaching the mysteries of VSE and VM systems
work and I'm reminded that when one prepares to teach something one
discovers many holes and uncertainties in one's own knowledge. Today
I thought I'd educate myself about IPL bootstrap records in case
Tom Cluster wrote:
Hello, VM experts,
I'm preparing myself for teaching the mysteries of VSE and VM systems
work and I'm reminded that when one prepares to teach something one
discovers many holes and uncertainties in one's own knowledge. Today
I thought I'd educate myself about IPL
Well, that is IBM.
Reading between the lines: customer cannot order a copy of
z/VM 4.40 because it has been pulled from marketing. The
system just don't accept the order. But, if the customer
can get a copy from other places, IBM will let the customer
uses it as long as the customer registers the
On Tuesday, 06/20/2006 at 11:07 AST, Roland P. Chung
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reading between the lines: customer cannot order a copy of
z/VM 4.40 because it has been pulled from marketing. The
system just don't accept the order. But, if the customer
can get a copy from other places, IBM will
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