oops, cics

2006-08-08 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
bob shair wrote: > That 360/40, serial number 2040-x0002, made two outstanding > contributions to IBM. After serving as the first 360 testbed for CP > (CP/40), it went on to be the primary development machine for CICS! > > > Bob Shair > Open Systems Consulting > Champaign, Illinois ref: htt

oops, cics

2006-08-08 Thread lynn
bob shair wrote: > That 360/40, serial number 2040-x0002, made two outstanding > contributions to IBM. After serving as the first 360 testbed for CP > (CP/40), it went on to be the primary development machine for CICS! ref: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#27 oops the university i was at h

block letter routine

2006-08-08 Thread Don Russell
Does anybody have handy, a "block letter routine" they can share with me? These are the characters generated for the printer separator pages. I'd prefer the "italics" version, and the one that used the individual character for making the large characters. That is, the large "1" character was m

Re: block letter routine

2006-08-08 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Don. I have a couple of "block letter" routines here, one in Rexx (an EXEC) and one in PL/I. I can send them to you, if you'd like. DJ Don Russell wrote: Does anybody have handy, a "block letter routine" they can share with me? These are the characters generated for the printer separato

Re: block letter routine

2006-08-08 Thread Don Russell
Dave... Thanks, the exec would be great. I don't think we have a PL/I compiler any more (or it's on the list of things to remove) Can you e-mail it to me as an attachment? username: don domain drussell (dot) dnsalias (dot) com Thanks a lot :-) Don Dave Jones wrote: Hi, Don. I have

Re: block letter routine

2006-08-08 Thread Dave Jones
What!!??!! You removed the PL/I compiler?? This is an outrage...how can I keep pestering Reed to port the much more advanced z/OS PL/I compiler over to z/VM (just like IBM did with the C/C++ one), if sites keep removing it? :-) I'll send the code to your personal e-mail address forthwith. And

Who has the tape drive ASSIGNed?

2006-08-08 Thread Alan Ackerman
Is there any command to tell you which LPAR has a tape drive assigned? Problem report: "This morning when I was checking the tapes on the different systems, I found that VMBACKUP on VMDEV2 was stuck. I found there was a problem with drive 366. There was a mount pending for VMBACKUP. I put all

Re: Who has the tape drive ASSIGNed?

2006-08-08 Thread Schuh, Richard
Simple solution - vary it off to MIM and all MVS systems. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 9:45 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Who has the tape drive ASS

SHARE BOF - Discussions on Draft of z/VM New Parents Guide

2006-08-08 Thread Jim Vincent
If you will be going to SHARE in less than 1 week, please try to attend the following Birds of a Feather round-table if you would like to hear and give input on the "z/VM New Parents Guide" proposal: 9151 - Thu 6:00pm - Discussions on Draft of z/VM New Parents Guide - Room CC-332 See you there!

Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Alan Ackerman
We were asked to update our stand-alone dump procedures. We don't use stand-alone dump very often, and the list of tape drives to use had gotte n badly out of date. We discovered that z/OS can take a stand-alone dump to disk. We get more involved in DASD address changes than in tape address c

Re: Who has the tape drive ASSIGNed?

2006-08-08 Thread Alan Ackerman
That's a joke, right? MIM thought the drive was free, or it would not hav e assigned it to VMDEV2.

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
I have been doing VM for over 22 years and have NEVER done a stand-alone dump. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:56 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

Re: Who has the tape drive ASSIGNed?

2006-08-08 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
There is no magic command. We have to call operations to have them check ALL the OS/390 systems that have access to those drives to find the one with it. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Marcy Cortes
I don't think we've ever had to take one. The PSW restart dump has worked here. We had to do one of those when we had a sick DS8000. I guess if the dump space had been on that device, then SA would have been useful. It would, however, take an act of god to ship an actual tape out of the datacen

Re: Who has the tape drive ASSIGNed?

2006-08-08 Thread Imler, Steven J
It's not really a joke ... To be clearer ... you want to issue a MIM GLOBAL VARY OFF so the drive is set OFFLINE on *every* system ... then a MIM GLOBAL VARY ON. The act of VARY OFF/ON will reset the ASSIGN bit on whichever system is the offending one. This doesn't tell you which system was th

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Schuh, Richard
The only use made of VM's stand-alone dump that I can recall in my 33 years with VM was to take a dump of a TPF system. PSW Restart always worked when we needed to force a dump. We simply had to teach the operators the sequence Store Status, System Reset, PSW Restart. They often substituted Syst

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
A bigger issue than keeping tape addresses current is the size of dumps and number of tapes required. Our high-capacity tape drives (STK 9840's) are all in silos. Our system with the largest real storage doesn't have 9840's available, and one other system doesn't share its silo, so if it's down,

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Schuh, Richard
And there are three kinds of mathematicians; those who can add and those who can't. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:11 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Sub

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Marcy Cortes
Good point - all of ours are either channel extended into 3494 ATL or local in a STK SILO. It's not like you can just pop a tape in. Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee,

Re: SYSPROF in INSTSEG

2006-08-08 Thread Phil Smith III
Jim Bohnsack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I think that the biggest reason for keeping it in a DCSS is that it is >important code that you really don't want the casual user to muck around >with. How many problems have we all had to dig into only to find out that >there is a private copy of the XY

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread George Haddad
Since you asked Alan, I have taken exactly one Standalone Dump in my career. It was, appropriately enough, while I worked at BofA. We were rolling out a new CP, but when it got to one of the production systems, the designated Ops console failed to come online in a timely enough manner to be us

IPLing DDR standalone on 7060

2006-08-08 Thread Tom Cluster
I'm posting this on vse-l also. I have a tape with IPLable ICKDSF (r16) and DDR (from z/VM 4.2), in that sequence. When I IPL the tape on a 7060, using TN3270 session B on the OS/2 support element, I'm unable to get a response. No matter what attention key I press I get an X-System indicatio

Re: IPLing DDR standalone on 7060

2006-08-08 Thread Raymond Noal
Tom, have you tried doing a SYSTEM RESET CLEAR operation just before you IPL DSF? From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Tom Cluster Sent: Tue 8/8/2006 11:13 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: IPLing DDR standalone on 7060 I'm posting this on v

Re: IPLing DDR standalone on 7060

2006-08-08 Thread Dave Jones
Tom, I seem to recall having this same problem when we had a 7060 (M3K) box here. i always did what you do, just rewind the tape and re-ipl ICKDSF again, when it would then work. I never attempted to get this fixed by IBM, but I think there was a problem someplace in the OS/2 support element c

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread David Boyes
> Good point - all of ours are either channel extended into 3494 ATL or > local in a STK SILO. It's not like you can just pop a tape in. Another good reason to do 3xxx tape emulation over SCSI tape, especially as real storage sizes continue to rise. There really might be a machine with 40G of rea

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
>Another good reason to do 3xxx tape emulation over SCSI tape, especially >as real storage sizes continue to rise. There really might be a machine >with 40G of real storage these days, and it would be really nice to be >able to take SA dumps to 200G LTO tapes. It'll probably be a while >before we s

Re: Who has the tape drive ASSIGNed?

2006-08-08 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I discovered a "gotcha" related to this thread a few days ago. We have 4 lpars sharing 3480's and 3590's. On my VM Test lpar, I run a couple of 2nd level VM maintenance or installation guests. I discovered that if I attach an address to a 2nd level VM guest, that ATTACH will turn on the assig

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Mike Walter
#x27; xfn xft xfm', rc='rc say '+++ from line:' sigl', which reads:' say '+++'sourceline(sigl) say '+++ Variable with

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Marcy Cortes
Seems like it ought to be a function of the LPAR to dump memory contents somewhere (all machines have LPAR now and there's intelligence there, right). Maybe on the hard drive of that z9 :) Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the ad

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 2:17 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk > > > > Seems like it ought to be a function of the LPAR to du

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Mike Walter
O. that's gonna be a pretty pricey USB thumb drive. Our z/OS guys FTP to IBM their S/A z/OS dumps which terse down to about 40G (from 100,000 cylinders on 3390 DASD). Do they even make 40G thumb drives? Do you want to send one to IBM? :-) Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions ex

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 2:42 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk > > > O. that's gonna be a pretty pricey USB thumb drive. O

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Schuh, Richard
I just VMARC packed a SNAPDUMP and it only took 330MB. Our system is 56MB (30 main, 26 XSTORE).I am in the process of sending it to a vendor (not IBM) and, after about 30 minutes, have sent about 1/3 of it. I guess that 1.5 hours vs. courier or mail is not too bad a price to pay. Regards, Richa

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread David Boyes
> O. that's gonna be a pretty pricey USB thumb drive. Our z/OS guys > FTP to IBM their S/A z/OS dumps which terse down to about 40G (from > 100,000 cylinders on 3390 DASD). Do they even make 40G thumb drives? Do > you want to send one to IBM? :-) On the other hand, USB 2 to SATA/PATA carri

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Dave Jones
Just a short note to let folks on this list that a lot of I.T. security guys are beginning to view USB thumb drives as a security exposure. Many desktop PCs now have USB port located on the front of their cases, making it fairly unobtrusive to plug a thumb drive in, and walk out with a hard dis

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Jon Brock
It isn't just thumb drives. Google for "pod-slurping." Jon Just a short note to let folks on this list that a lot of I.T. security guys are beginning to view USB thumb drives as a security exposure. Many desktop PCs now have USB port located on the front of their cases, making it fairly un

FPLINX086I

2006-08-08 Thread Schuh, Richard
This message is being cross-posted to the Pipelines and VM lists. I have a server that took this ABEND: FPLINX410E ABEND 00F0 at 01EC3B5E; PSW 03EC 81EC3B5E 00040006 FPLINX411I ... In FPLSYSGV; offset 846E in FPLCMS 10/10/05 22.06 FPLINX412I ... GPR0: 01E4B1F0 01E4B1

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Dave Jones
And the first hit Google reports back is: http://www.sharp-ideas.net/pod_slurping.php Makes for interesting reading, Jon. But, back on topic, I think it is only a matter of time before mainframe systems are able to take advantage of these new, small but very high capacity storage devices. IBM

Re: block letter routine

2006-08-08 Thread Don Russell
Dave Jones wrote: What!!??!! You removed the PL/I compiler?? This is an outrage...how can I keep pestering Reed to port the much more advanced z/OS PL/I compiler over to z/VM (just like IBM did with the C/C++ one), if sites keep removing it? :-) I hate to pass the buck, but... choose one: :-)

Re: Who has the tape drive ASSIGNed?

2006-08-08 Thread Alan Ackerman
I am informed that this particular case was NOT caused by CA-BAB. (We hav e had other cases.) We don't know what was the cause. z/OS isn't relevent here, though we have had similar error messages involving sharing with z/OS at other times. We have 3 VM systems, and 10 guests, involved. We issu

Re: Who has the tape drive ASSIGNed?

2006-08-08 Thread Imler, Steven J
Alan, Unfortunately, I think the only way to find the offending system is by the hunt-and-peck method you have described ... going to *every* system and issuing a CP ATTACH for the drive in question until you get to the system that doesn't deny you with "assigned elsewhere". <<< History you may

Length of Loadparm field on z/890 HMC Console

2006-08-08 Thread Fred Schmidt
Hi fellow listers. We have for the first time installed z/VM on our z/890 processors and have a small problem with the IPL... The Load Parameters field is only 4 characters long on the HMC console. We would like to enter loadparms like "CONSSYSG" or "CONS0040" to bypass display of the SAPL scre

Re: Length of Loadparm field on z/890 HMC Console

2006-08-08 Thread Rich Smrcina
Try the del key, or swiping the field and hitting del. Fred Schmidt wrote: Hi fellow listers. We have for the first time installed z/VM on our z/890 processors and have a small problem with the IPL... The Load Parameters field is only 4 characters long on the HMC console. We would like to

Re: Length of Loadparm field on z/890 HMC Console

2006-08-08 Thread Mike Walter
Fred, It sounds as though you may be slightly (and understandably) confused about the LOADPARMs required by z/VM. Try omitting the leading "CONS" from your LOADPARMs, e.g. just enter: SYSG, or 0040. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates "Fred Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "The IBM z/VM

Re: FPLINX086I

2006-08-08 Thread Alan Ackerman
LookAt found me: 2.3.10 0F0 0F0.if no eq no .edf#mcst off Module Name: DMSITS Explanation: Insufficient free storage is available to allocate a save | area for an SVC call. The save area must be allocated out of storage be low | 16M in the virtual machine. I don't know what the gibber

Re: Secondary FTP Server Help

2006-08-08 Thread Alan Ackerman
We got Bluezone (trial copy) to work doing SSL FTP. We did NOT get our WS -FTP PRO client to work. We DID open a PMR, but were told the problem is in WS-FTP PRO. That's whe re it sits. Of course, it may have been a totally different problem. On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:35:47 -0700, Adam Thornton <[EMA

Re: Signal support

2006-08-08 Thread Alan Ackerman
On the same topic (but not VSE) we have submitted requests (or whatever I BM now calls them) for support by DB2 and TCP/IP of the shutdown signal. Is anyone else interest ed?

Re: Secondary FTP Server Help

2006-08-08 Thread Adam Thornton
On Aug 8, 2006, at 9:32 PM, Alan Ackerman wrote: We got Bluezone (trial copy) to work doing SSL FTP. We did NOT get our WS -FTP PRO client to work. We DID open a PMR, but were told the problem is in WS-FTP PRO. That's whe re it sits. FWIW I have reports of success using WS-FTP Pro. Make

Re: Length of Loadparm field on z/890 HMC Console

2006-08-08 Thread Kris Buelens
There is a difference:    LOADPARM SYSG               Instructs SAPL to display its panel on SYSG    LOADPARM CONSSYSG  Bypass SAPL panel, makes CP use SYSG and similar for 0040 or CONS0040 Kris, IBM Belgium, VM customer support The IBM z/VM Operating System wrote on 2006-08-09 04:42:53: > F

Re: Signal support

2006-08-08 Thread Kris Buelens
TCP/IP does it need singal support?  It doesn't need to close anything, or am I wrong? DB2/VM: yes, we'd like that too.  I plan to have one of our servers (that uses SHUTTRAP) have the DB2 servers to stop.  But: - it is hard to know why our REXX server gets a signal: was it a FORCE or a SHUTDOWN?