Re: CTC change

2007-05-21 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
That will work. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anne Crabtree Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 9:27 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: CTC change I have a CTC defined to TCPIP for a linux guest we are not using. If I want to

Debbie Abel/Phoenix/IBM is out of the office.

2007-05-21 Thread Debbie Abel
I will be out of the office starting 05/21/2007 and will not return until 05/24/2007.

Re: CTC change

2007-05-21 Thread Anne Crabtree
What about the SPECIAL statement in USER TCPIP? If I change it from WVLNX5 to VMTEST, will it know about it without recycling TCPIP or doing OBEY or something? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Dept of Administration - OT 304-558-5914 ext 8885 Fax 304-558-1351 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/21/2007

Re: CTC change

2007-05-21 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
Once it is on 2nd level, you have to ATTACH / DEDICATE to whatever virtual machine (TCP/IP, VM/VTAM, PVM) that will use it. You have to have it assigned to your 2nd level VM Guest on 1st level, then on 2nd level, assigned to the guest there. What you do with it now is up to you. -Original

Re: CTC change

2007-05-21 Thread Schuh, Richard
If Linux is a guest on the same system where the 2nd level VM is running or is a guest of the 2nd level system, you can use a VCTCA instead of the real one. In fact, you will almost assuredly have to use VCTCA as there will be only one device defined and it cannot be attached to 2 different

Re: CTC change

2007-05-21 Thread David Kreuter
It is a virtual ctc first level. The ATT/DEDICATE is for the 2nd level system to attach to TCPIP or any other 3rd level guest machine capable of driving it. David -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Schuh, Richard Sent: Mon 5/21/2007 11:34 AM To:

system config file

2007-05-21 Thread James M
Is the file case sensitive? Thanks -James

Rexx and OpenExtension

2007-05-21 Thread Stephen . Gentry
Can OpenExtension commands, for example, GETBFS, PUTBFS, MOUNT, etc be issued from within a REXX program? The OE Users Guide doesn't say that you can, but it doesn't say that you can't. The code might be something like: /* */ 'cms OPENVM mount /. . /VMSYSU:MYTEST/ /' 'cms OPENVM GETBFS yadda

Re: system config file

2007-05-21 Thread Dave Jones
Nope James M wrote: Is the file case sensitive? Thanks -James -- DJ V/Soft

Re: Rexx and OpenExtension

2007-05-21 Thread Dave Jones
Steve, any valid OpenExtension command can be issued from a CMS Rexx exec. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can OpenExtension commands, for example, GETBFS, PUTBFS, MOUNT, etc be issued from within a REXX program? The OE Users Guide doesn't say that you can, but it doesn't say that you can't. The

HCD FCP IODEVICE ADDRESSes

2007-05-21 Thread Neubert, Kevin (DIS)
I am new to FCPs and associated storage. I have reviewed the numerous FICON/FCP manuals on the subject. I understand the setup of the CHPID and CNTLUNIT (no SWITCH and LINK information respectively, etc.), but I am not clear on the IODEVICE ADDRESSes. If I have one z/VM partition, two FCPs and

Re: RES: Real Life is meeting Second Life at WAVV !!!

2007-05-21 Thread Brian Nielsen
I set up SecondLife the day before without any problems. Walking around the virtual displays was a nice idea that would have been better if there had been more novel stuff to look at. Most was just reading info placards, but there was the occasional cabinet door to open and look inside the

Re: VM CONSOLE Experts...I need your help

2007-05-21 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Joan. Joan Gerads wrote: I have a couple more questions regarding setting up a VM console through OSA-ICC. z/VM version 5.2 - IBM z9 2096 BC processor 1 LPAR VM running multiple VSE guests 1) is there any software restrictions as far as 3270 emulator software running on the PC for

VM CONSOLE Experts...I need your help

2007-05-21 Thread Joan Gerads
I have a couple more questions regarding setting up a VM console through OSA-ICC. z/VM version 5.2 - IBM z9 2096 BC processor 1 LPAR VM running multiple VSE guests 1) is there any software restrictions as far as 3270 emulator software running on the PC for the VM console to work on it? We

Re: HCD FCP IODEVICE ADDRESSes

2007-05-21 Thread Steve Wilkins
The IODEVICE Addresses represent the FCP subchannel devices out to the SAN. They are not the actual disk volumes. They are portal devices, much like how OSA subchannel devices are to an IP network. The FCP subchannels are all you will configure in HCD or IOCP. The actual disk volumes are

Re: system config file

2007-05-21 Thread Stephen . Gentry
no James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 05/21/2007 11:59 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc: Subject:system config file Is the file case sensitive?

Re: system config file

2007-05-21 Thread James M
OK Thanks. I thought so. Being the backup guy and still a bit unsure of myself I need to get to the bottom of a potential problem. A while back you may remember I had to add a spool volume on the fly. I thought I had done everything correct but now I'm told that the CPDISK access is wrong and

Performance Rules of Thumb ?

2007-05-21 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
Is there a published set of rules of thumb for z/vm performance? I'm looking for key points to monitor and the thresholds for each to trigger alerts. thanks Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering KP-IT Enterprise Engineering, Client and

Re: Performance Rules of Thumb ?

2007-05-21 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Lionel. My first rule of thumb for z/VM performance is to install and use a good performance monitoring tool. ;-)If you are using Velocity's products, there are some good performance hints and tips that you can grab off of their web site, I believe. Rob van der Heij of Velocity gave a

Re: system config file

2007-05-21 Thread John Franciscovich
Without knowing more details, here are some things to look at: You need to make sure that the system config file that you changed to include the new volume is on the PARM disk that is used at IPL time. The PARM disk that is used during an IPL is the one that is specified to the stand-alone

Re: system config file

2007-05-21 Thread Steve Wilkins
VM converts most of the input from the config file into upper case when reading it in. Regards, Steve. Steve Wilkins IBM z/VM Development James M

Re: system config file

2007-05-21 Thread James M
q cpload indicates parm disk 3 (cf3) which is in fact the disk holding the system config I modified with the new spool volume. -James On 5/21/07, John Franciscovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without knowing more details, here are some things to look at: You need to make sure that the system

Re: system config file

2007-05-21 Thread John Franciscovich
Given that, it looks like you'll be ok. The way to verify that this is the disk that will be used the next time you IPL is to display the stand-alone loader screen, and make sure that parm disk 3 is the one being used (there are a couple of ways this could be shown, either as EXTENT 3 or in the

Re: VM CONSOLE Experts...I need your help

2007-05-21 Thread James M
Joan- There's a lot to consider check. Did you tn3270 to the ICC adapter IP # before ipl'ing? Is your iocp correct? Is your system config correct - console defined same as ipl device on ICC def. Are your ICC definitions correct - valid ipl device pc ip # specified correctly I'm using the

Re: system config file

2007-05-21 Thread James M
Thanks John. Is there a way to show the sapl screen while the system is running? -James On 5/21/07, John Franciscovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given that, it looks like you'll be ok. The way to verify that this is the disk that will be used the next time you IPL is to display the stand-alone

Re: HCD FCP IODEVICE ADDRESSes

2007-05-21 Thread Neubert, Kevin (DIS)
Thank you for your response. Referencing your Using z/VM in a SCSI Environment presentation from WAVV May 2007 you have the following: IODEVICE ADDRESS=(5400,128)... Why 128? Aside from guest access channel limits per channel what are the effects, if any, of setting this lower or higher?

Re: system config file

2007-05-21 Thread Schuh, Richard
Link to the disk RR and ipl it with a loadparm of the console address - IPL dev LOADP consaddr Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James M Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 10:57 AM To:

Re: Performance Rules of Thumb ?

2007-05-21 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
Thanks for the two replies - what I'm looking for is something like this: cpu utilization 90% warning 99% critical swap rate ..% warning ..% critical page rate etc. Has anyone created such a list? thanks Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe

spool file question

2007-05-21 Thread Henry Wilusz
I have an interesting question concerning spool disks. I recently added a spool disk to the system, primarily because of one monthly job. Everything seems to be OK, except that the system does not appear to be using the added spool disk. Q ALLOC SPOOL shows the added disk, and shows a high

Re: HCD FCP IODEVICE ADDRESSes

2007-05-21 Thread Steve Wilkins
The number should be set to the number of FCP subchannels you expect to divy out to different Linux guests and VM EDEVICE definitions (plus some extras). If you don't know, just set it to the max supported for the CHPID; that should be either 240 or 480 depending on your adapter card level.

Re: system config file

2007-05-21 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
If you get the 1010, you might want to issue: TERM CONMODE 3270 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 2:00 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: spool file question

2007-05-21 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
I had a similar situation, it took almost a week before the system started to use the 3rd SPOOL volume. Draining the other can force it to that volume. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henry Wilusz Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007

Re: Performance Rules of Thumb ?

2007-05-21 Thread Marty Zimelis
Lionel, My first rule of thumb is Everyone's thumb is a different size. That is, what works for me isn't necessarily going to work for you. Using someone else's experience will work for you right up until it doesn't. I'd suggest going through the SHARE Proceedings archives and/or the

Re: Performance Rules of Thumb ?

2007-05-21 Thread Marcy Cortes
I think a lot of the answers will be it depends :) But one thing that comes to mind is page space utilization. 40% I'd say then you need to start worrying about adding more for good performance. Page rates can vary wildly. Like when you IPL and start bringing up all your Linux guests - we can

Re: Performance Rules of Thumb ?

2007-05-21 Thread Schuh, Richard
Unfortunately, rules, especially rules of thumb, are meant to be broken. For example, your 99% critical may not apply. We have experienced long periods, sometimes as long as 8 hours, with the system running at 100% with no complaints about performance. Similarly, pre 5.2 days, we regularly

Re: system config file

2007-05-21 Thread James M
I tried it on a test system before production and got IPL unit error. Both 2nd level guests I used guest directory entry console statement device (0009) as loadparm. ? -James On 5/21/07, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Link to the disk RR and ipl it with a loadparm of the console

Re: Performance Rules of Thumb ?

2007-05-21 Thread Schuh, Richard
Marty, Your first rule is a corollary to, All generalities are wrong, isn't it? :-) Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marty Zimelis Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 11:17 AM To:

Re: Performance Rules of Thumb ?

2007-05-21 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
Thanks - you're points on YMMV is very appropo - I was just looking for starting points. Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering KP-IT Enterprise Engineering, Client and Platform Engineering Services (CAPES) 925-926-5332 (8-473-5332) |

Performance Took Kit

2007-05-21 Thread EdRohr
Hi We are looking at PTK shipped with z/VM 5.2. Questions please: 1) Quick setup reference and Prog Dir for PTK 520 refer to User PERFSVM and we only have PERFORM. Should we change user direct - user PERFORM to be PERFSVM ? Seems like PERFSVM is imbedded in FCONX $PROFILE and FCONRMT

Re: VM CONSOLE Experts...I need your help

2007-05-21 Thread Joan Gerads
James, what specifically did you mean by your first question: Did you TN3270 to the ICC adapter IP # before ipl'ing. How do you TN3270 to the IP # before ipl'ing and AFTER OSA is reset with the ipl? We had the TN3270 session ready before the IPL and then the OSA is reset in the IPL, so is

Re: Performance Took Kit

2007-05-21 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Ed. There should be two, predefined directory entries in the z/VM 5.2 USER DIRECT file for the Performance Toolkit. One should look like this: USER PERFSVM password 64M 512M ABDEG MACHINE XA XAUTOLOG AUTOLOG1 ACCOUNT NAMESAVE MONDCSS IUCV *MONITOR MSGLIMIT 255 IUCV *IDENT

Re: VM CONSOLE Experts...I need your help

2007-05-21 Thread Eric Schadow
Joan We setup our OSA ICC to use IBM PCOMM with a windows machine. I setup the TN3270 client to have infinite retries and no wait time between TN3270 connections. This redbook help considerably http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg246364.pdf the TN3270 client needs to be connected to

Re: CTC change

2007-05-21 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 05/21/2007 at 10:04 AST, Anne Crabtree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about the SPECIAL statement in USER TCPIP? If I change it from WVLNX5 to VMTEST, will it know about it without recycling TCPIP or doing OBEY or something? No. In fact, you will need to logoff/logon or DETACH the

Re: GDPS/XRC mirroring of VM volumes

2007-05-21 Thread Jack H. Slavick
A quick question for MAHow did you handle your NSS/DCSS files? Jack H. Slavick Acxiom Corp.

Re: VM CONSOLE Experts...I need your help

2007-05-21 Thread Feller, Paul
We use the IBM PCOMM software for our consoles with an OSA-ICC on all three of our CPUs. We use both z/OS and z/VM consoles through the OSA-ICC. It is my understanding that the MIFID must match to the lpar you are running your z/VM system in. Paul Feller AIT Mainframe Technical Support

Re: Performance Rules of Thumb ?

2007-05-21 Thread Alan Ackerman
On Mon, 21 May 2007 11:26:20 -0700, Lionel B. Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks - you're points on YMMV is very appropo - I was just looking for starting points. Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering KP-IT Enterprise Engineering,

Re: system config file

2007-05-21 Thread George Haddad
I had an old Exec called QSAPL (I think that's what it was called). It would display the SAPL parms w/o booting from the (fullpack) mdisk. You still needed the RR Link. I can't recall where I got it (from the list or VMshare maybe?). Maybe someone else recalls? Schuh, Richard wrote: Link to

Re: Performance Rules of Thumb ?

2007-05-21 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
All - thanks again for the continued discussion (education). A question - how effective is the z/vm priority scheme in defining the lower priority work and does that effectively prevent looping/dumping/troublesome low priority work from impacting your high priority production work? Thanks

Re: Performance Rules of Thumb ?

2007-05-21 Thread Schuh, Richard
VM is very effective about keeping low priority work in the background. If you see that one user seems to be hogging the system, it is probably because there are spare cycles that nobody else wanted to use. The caveat is that on a fully loaded system, even that work does get its fair share of CPU

Re: Performance Rules of Thumb ?

2007-05-21 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 05/21/2007 at 11:10 MST, Lionel B. Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the two replies - what I'm looking for is something like this: cpu utilization 90% warning 99% critical swap rate ..% warning ..% critical page rate etc. Has anyone created such a list?

Re: GDPS/XRC mirroring of VM volumes

2007-05-21 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
We didn't seem to have a problem with them. We only really have CMS,(I think, I'm a newbie. Maybe performance monitor too?) and it was fine. And we only really have two real users, sysprogs. I *have* had to rebuild the cms nss after a full volume restore before, so I would have (hopefully)

Re: Performance Rules of Thumb ?

2007-05-21 Thread Schuh, Richard
We have a separation policy here. Development and test cannot touch the production network and vice versa. The separation is by LPAR in that there is one production LPAR running on a machine that is otherwise development. Other than that, the separation is by cpu serial number. We do not separate