Re: Accounting question

2008-03-06 Thread Kris Buelens
The VM console logs contain this information. You not only need the logon times but also logoff, it is the logoff requirement that made my customer could not use RACF's SMF records and we had to revert to scanning the console logs. Our code starts with console logs created by CA's VM:Operator and

Procedure to ddr multiple disks to one tape and restore

2008-03-06 Thread Hilary Hurwitz
I am not really a VM person, so I am asking for help a bit . Does anyone have a Rexx proc that will take a list of disks as input and back them up to one tape . We just became the proud owners of 3590 drives. Before it was at least two tapes per disk. (yes we took a few boxes of tapes to do

Re: Accounting question

2008-03-06 Thread =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tom_West?=
Thank's for reply, I'd like to have this code, I'll try to find out what I can do. Thank you Kris

Ha: Procedure to ddr multiple disks to one tape and restore

2008-03-06 Thread Vladimir A Skomorokhov
for example 2 rexx proc: 1. dfors exec TRACE ALL EXEC DFOR 133 EXEC DFOR 134 EXEC DFOR 135 EXEC DFOR 136 EXEC DFOR 139 EXEC DFOR 140 EXEC DFOR 12F 2. dfor exec TRACE ALL STACK SY CONS STACK IN 1 3390 STACK OUT 181 3590 (LE CO STACK DUMP ALL STACK YES DDR CP ATTN The IBM z/VM Operating

Re: Ha: Procedure to ddr multiple disks to one tape and restore

2008-03-06 Thread Chip Davis
I hate to nitpick (okay, I enjoy it actually) but that is in no way a rexx proc. That's written in EXEC2, the language Rexx was designed to replace. -Chip- On 3/6/08 09:15 Vladimir A Skomorokhov said: for example 2 rexx proc: 1. dfors exec TRACE ALL EXEC DFOR 133 EXEC DFOR 134 EXEC DFOR

Re: IS Organization question

2008-03-06 Thread McBride, Catherine
Perhaps company size isn't as much of a factor as the role of I.T. within the company. If your business is I.T. or your product is created, stored and delivered via computer, you ARE a big company from an I.T perspective. Ideally the technical and operations groups are separate, and report to

Re: Procedure to ddr multiple disks to one tape and restore

2008-03-06 Thread Michael Simms
Hilary, Here is what I use, for what it's worth. It get's the job done. I put in some /*% ...' where you would make changes for your shop. It's not perfect, in fact I have some more work to do to make it 'pretty' and more error-catching. Unfortuately I don't have the restore exec.

Re: Accounting question

2008-03-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 03/06/2008 at 03:36 EST, Kris Buelens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The VM console logs contain this information. You not only need the logon times but also logoff, it is the logoff requirement that made my customer could not use RACF's SMF records and we had to revert to scanning

Re: IS Organization question

2008-03-06 Thread Robert Payne
We are a small shop and NOT structured this way, but it is something that I have wondered about and it seems to make sense to me. On any given day, I work and interact with the Operations staff more than the application folks. Sounds like a good idea. ... snip One of those suggestions is

Re: Accounting question

2008-03-06 Thread Kris Buelens
Alan, didn't I write it is the logoff requirement that made my customer could not use RACF's SMF ... RACF doesn't write an SMF record at LOGOFF time. The console log gives not only the terminal and userid, but also the LOGONBY user. 2008/3/6, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thursday,

Re: IS Organization question

2008-03-06 Thread Dodds, Jim
Most of the shops(all have been VM/VSE) I have worked at in my 30 year career have had the Operations area and Systems programming area separate reporting areas. When I first started here at the school it was the operations staff reported to the systems programming area. Six months later we are

Re: Procedure to ddr multiple disks to one tape and restore

2008-03-06 Thread David Boyes
A suggestion: In place of the DDR on the S disk, use CMSDDR (downloadable from the VM Download library at www.vm.ibm.com/download), and dump the volumes to a CMS file with a meaningful name (like vaddr date). Then you can use TAPE DUMP or MOVEFILE to move the files to tape (also gives you SL

Re: Accounting question

2008-03-06 Thread David Boyes
From RACF Report Writer: 008.066 08:35:02 VMSP ALTMARKA SYS1 093C43C3 0 2 0 JOBID=( 00.000 00:00:00) Hmm. Given that the 093C43C3 is effectively a decimal-to-hex representation of a 4 octet IPv4 address, have you folks given it any thought about what to do with IPv6 addresses?

Re: Procedure to ddr multiple disks to one tape and restore

2008-03-06 Thread Thomas Kern
This methodology can give you a scanable tape but it does increase your i/o load and elapsed time quite a bit. If you have enough spare DASD, you could do all of your production backups to DASD during your backup window and then move the CMS files to tape after your backup window. But it

Re: Procedure to ddr multiple disks to one tape and restore

2008-03-06 Thread David Boyes
This methodology can give you a scanable tape but it does increase your i/o load and elapsed time quite a bit. It's manageable if you can put the scratch disk out of the line of processing for production work (ie, different string or controller). If you have enough spare DASD, you could do

Re: The list it to quiet, here's something to work on.

2008-03-06 Thread Bruce Hayden
Gee, I have a copy of that exec, with a 1983 date on it. The reference to MFC's birthday is a comment in my version: /* if m d=2*2*2 3*3*3 then do; say It's Mike Cowlishaw's Birthday! say;end */ The comment at the top says: /* Type/push today's date and moon phase in English */ I still run it

Re: IS Organization question

2008-03-06 Thread Peter . Webb
Toronto Transit Commission 10,000+ employees, running VM and VSE, 5 computer operators, 4 system programmers Simplified organisation: CIO | - | |||

Re: Accounting question

2008-03-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 03/06/2008 at 10:03 EST, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From RACF Report Writer: 008.066 08:35:02 VMSP ALTMARKA SYS1 093C43C3 0 2 0 JOBID=( 00.000 00:00:00) Hmm. Given that the 093C43C3 is effectively a decimal-to-hex representation of a 4 octet IPv4

Re: The list it to quiet, here's something to work on.

2008-03-06 Thread Jim Bohnsack
That's it, but how do you decode if m d=2*2*2 3*3*3 then do; ? I understand that in January m is 1 meaning true, and MFC's birthday must be the 8th but what does 3*3*3 do to the if statement? And is that the same as saying if m d=2*2*2 3*3*3? As I said, mine is named QDJAB because I

Re: Accounting question

2008-03-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 03/06/2008 at 09:22 EST, Kris Buelens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan, didn't I write it is the logoff requirement that made my customer could not use RACF's SMF ... RACF doesn't write an SMF record at LOGOFF time. The console log gives not only the terminal and userid, but also

Re: IS Organization question

2008-03-06 Thread Rick Giz
I agree with Catherine's comments on organizational structure. However, in a past employer a change was made, not in reporting structure, but rather in terms of functional responsibilities, a change that blew our minds. As in your case, we had Operators and System Programmers. Sys Progs

Re: Procedure to ddr multiple disks to one tape and restore

2008-03-06 Thread Hilary Hurwitz
Thanks all of you. And thanks to Shimon who called me and sent his version too :) I actually have enough dasd to copy all my disks (45 3390 m3) that takes about 2 hours of down time. Then during working hours I can ddr those copied disks to tape. The last time I did a drp exercise I had 90

z/VM 5.2 Hipersocket Connection to z/OS

2008-03-06 Thread Kreiter, Chuck
Does anyone have a working TCPIP configuration file for z/VM that includes both an ethernet and zSeries hipersocket configuration they would be willing to share? From z/VM, I can ping both the network and hipersocket address but I cannot ping z/OS. Same goes from the z/OS side. I can ping z/OS

Re: The list it to quiet, here's something to work on.

2008-03-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 03/06/2008 at 12:42 EST, Jim Bohnsack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's it, but how do you decode if m d=2*2*2 3*3*3 then do; ? I understand that in January m is 1 meaning true, and MFC's birthday must be the 8th but what does 3*3*3 do to the if statement? And is that the same

Re: z/VM 5.2 Hipersocket Connection to z/OS

2008-03-06 Thread Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
Here is what I have and it works great. ; DEVICE and LINK for VIPA DEVICE VIPADEV1 VIRTUAL 0 LINKVIPALINK1 VIRTUAL 0 VIPADEV1 ; Virtual NIC to talk to VSWITCH zVM1

Re: The list it to quiet, here's something to work on.

2008-03-06 Thread James G Best
That's it, but how do you decode if m d=2*2*2 3*3*3 then do; He probably thought, and I do too, that it's pretty cool to have a birthday where both the month and day are cubes. Jim

Re: z/VM 5.2 Hipersocket Connection to z/OS

2008-03-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 03/06/2008 at 01:04 EST, Kreiter, Chuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a working TCPIP configuration file for z/VM that includes both an ethernet and zSeries hipersocket configuration they would be willing to share? From z/VM, I can ping both the network and

Re: z/VM 5.2 Hipersocket Connection to z/OS

2008-03-06 Thread Kreiter, Chuck
Thanks for the responses. I think I'm hitting up against an MTU sizing issue. When set up, the Hipersockers were used between z/OS systems and were set to have MTU size of 16384. That worked fine with z/OS. I seem to be hitting a wall on z/VM with a max of 8192. I read about the

Weird Network Problem .. also posted on the LINIX-390 list

2008-03-06 Thread Huegel, Thomas
I visited a customer yesterday, and they mentioned a weird problem: They have a z/Linux guest that's acting as an SNA gateway for some VSE users. So it's dual-homed: a virtual NIC (vNIC) for incoming TCP/IP traffic, and a real OSA for outgoing SNA (to the VSE guest(s) -- not sure what happens

Re: The list it to quiet, here's something to work on.

2008-03-06 Thread Bruce Hayden
The statement if m d=2*2*2 3*3*3 then do; would be just like coding: if (m||' '||d) = (2*2*2||' '||3*3*3) then do The parenthesis aren't needed either, but it shows how Rexx evaluates each side of the equals sign. Remember that in Rexx, a blank *is* a concatenation operator, meaning to

Re: z/VM 5.2 Hipersocket Connection to z/OS

2008-03-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 03/06/2008 at 02:41 EST, Kreiter, Chuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the responses. I think I'm hitting up against an MTU sizing issue. When set up, the Hipersockers were used between z/OS systems and were set to have MTU size of 16384. That worked fine with z/OS. I

Re: The list it to quiet, here's something to work on.

2008-03-06 Thread Ivica Brodaric
The statement if m d=2*2*2 3*3*3 then do; works because multiplication is higher priority than concatenation which in turn is higher than comparison. And, of course, multiple blanks between two expressions evaluate as concatenation with a single blank between. Order of precedence in REXX is: