On Monday, 12/08/2008 at 01:30 EST, Rothman, Peter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We currently have z/VM 520 with RACF 1.10 and will shortly upgrade to
z/VM 540
with the RACF feature for 540.
We want to synchronize new passwords across a number of systems.
I have looked thru the manual and
On Sunday, 12/07/2008 at 09:40 EST, Alan Ackerman
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The most important thing they want to do is to make sure the the data
was
actually encrypted.
Otherwise, someone could have changed it, or stolen it. It seems
probable
that knowing the
number of bits of
On Monday, 12/08/2008 at 02:25 EST, Kris Buelens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I've been part of a team writing a redbook on the subject last
September/October. You need z/VM 5.4 with RACF and LDAP (included with
z/VM)
and Tivoli IBM Tivoli Directory Integrator (ITDI, included in some
Tivoli
On Monday, 12/08/2008 at 02:11 EST, Horlick, Michael
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For my emulator (myExtra!) it works fine but fails for their emulator.
However,
under SNA it works.
And so I state again for the record: You must gather diagnostic data from
CA-TPX to see the difference in the
On Monday, 12/08/2008 at 06:03 EST, Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Since these are user volumes there is no value in doing CPFMTXA or
ICKDSF FORMAT on them. When you hand the mini disk to Linux it will
have to format it anyway (unless you can flashcopy a similar device
that was
Have a look at my COMPARE package:
http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?COMPARE
(I see I should refresh it: the newest version makes it easier to start
COMPAIR from withing FILELIST).
2008/12/9 Philip Hitti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to Compare two VM file to know changes??
Thanks for the replies.
At this stage we are not looking into using LDAP.
As far as RACF not providing an exit for this - there may not be an exit
specifically for this but we did have a product (a couple of years ago)
called SYNCOM that did this. If I recall correctly they used a
combination of
What's wrong with the use of LDAP? It is included free of charge in z/VM.
Part of LDAP on z/VM and z/OS can be seen as a means to make the RACF
database content available to LDAP clients. Example:
ldapsrch -h 127.0.0.1 -D racfid=U80027,profiletype=user,cn=RACFVM -w
U80027PW
-L -b
To speed things up, you may also define primary and secondary pairs before
you run ICKDSF with ERASEDATA. That will ease the load on the channels (or
halve the time required to erase everything) and make the subsystem do extra
work for you. Then maybe break the pairs, swap the primaries and
Then maybe break the pairs, swap the primaries and secondaries and rerun
the erase.
To be clear, break the pairs only after they are fully synced.
Ivica
Then you have to go the LDAP way. For z/VM and z/OS everything remains
stored in RACF, as I wrote earlier, LDAP is just a way to access these RACF
data. The LDAP on z/VM and z/OS doesn't need a real full blown database,
the RACF data isn't even replicated into LDAP. Consider LDAP on VM as a
A process like rewriting data with different patterns is modeled after
traditional technology. We know at least of some DASD subsystems where
the remaining 24 rewrites would not cause writing at the same location
on a disk, and thus not achieve what you meant to do. Those funny
patterns tend
Hi all,
thanks for your help. But I mixed up my definitions between OSA2 and
OSA3. I mixed definitions for a z990/OSA2 and z10/OSA3.
What I found in the manuals and now understand hopefully is on an OSA2
all Names have to be the same, exept for OSA3. Those names must be
unique.
The problem is
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 7:50 AM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday, 12/08/2008 at 06:03 EST, Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Since these are user volumes there is no value in doing CPFMTXA or
ICKDSF FORMAT on them. When you hand the mini disk to Linux it will
have to
There is a replacement program from the old Waterloo Mods tapes that I
have installed as XCOMPARE. It can detail the differences between two
text files and if the files are standard source code, it can create
either CMS UPDATE or IEBUPDTE control cards.
/Tom Kern
Philip Hitti wrote:
How to
Please take a look at the the TcpSStatus call in the TCP/IP Programming
Reference to see if it has the details you are wanting. That is one of
the APIs for which no C equivalent exists, though it is possible to use
the output of NETSTAT SOCKETS to convert a socket number to a connection
The COMPARE command provides a simpleminded way to determine if two files
are different, but it gets easily confused. The XCOMPARE utility from
Cornell (on many VM Workshop tapes) proves more sophisticated comparisons,
including the ability to generate CMS UPDATE-compatible files (similar to
the
Hi, Philip.
CMS has it's own built in COMPARE command for comparing two CMS files. You can read its
online help file via HELP COMPARE.
There are also two good, free, CMS compare utilities available that address some of the
shortcomings of the basic IBM COMPARE command:
1) Kris Buelen's
Slurpd is a very effective way to replicate a LDAP database into another
LDAP.
On 12/9/08 8:19 AM, Rothman, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well actually we are looking into LDAP. However management prefer that the
LDAP live on Linux.
Our programmers use work station based tools and have to
On Tuesday, 12/09/2008 at 09:44 EST, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
One idea: take a look at the OpenSSL API documentation. Since that seems
to
be the de facto floor SSL implementation on every other platform,
similar
capabilities would probably be desirable. If you're pressed for
Hi there z/VM gurus. We are going to move our z/VM 5.3 and Red Hat Linux 5.2
DASD volumes from address range 7xxx to 8xxx using FDR full volume physical
backups/restores and keep the same volume labels. We will modify the system
config file to vary online the 8xxx range and IPL off the new
Would someone please be so kind as to send me the Segment definitions for
CMSVSAM , CMSAMS and DOSBAM
Crispin Hugo
Systems Programmer
Macro 4
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On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 08:53:42 -0600, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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2) Cornell University's XCOMPARE packageit has many useful features
(creating an
update file in CMS format, e.g.) and it's is more flexible and powerfu
l
than IBM's
COMPARE command. You can download it from here:
If it has more than 1 virtual cpu it can.
Even if you have 1 virtual cpu, you will be dispatched on both, but you won't
be able to consume more than 1 IFL's worth.
Marcy
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Also, if you have the High Level Assembler installed, including the
HLASM toolkit, then you have the superc (super compare) tool which you
invoke with ASMFSUPC EXEC.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, Philip.
CMS has it's own built in COMPARE command for
As with any backup process that is not aware of the underlying file
systems, FDR could back up files in an inconsistent state (i.e. files are
changing as they are being backed up, usually: not committed to DASD).
Thus, ensure that the target backup volumes are not being used by any
system when
For which release of z/VM?
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VSAM Segment
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On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Steve Mitchell wrote:
A z/VM LPAR with two IFL's: Can one Linux guest consume more than 50% of
the capacity ie can work be dispatched on more than one IFL? I cant
locate the proper written doc to confirm one way or the other
Steve Mitchell
I don't have a document
Make sure your old 7xxx range DASD is unavailable before you IPL
your 8xxx copies or you will have duplicate volumes which would
not be a good thing.
Aria
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 09:49:19 -0600 Juarez, David T. (AITC) said:
Hi there z/VM gurus. We are going to move our z/VM 5.3 and Red Hat Linux
5.2
Sorry , z/VM 5.1
Crispin Hugo
Systems Programmer
Macro 4
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I believe that by default, a linux guest will process on only 1 IFL at a
time. Multiple CPU statements to more than 1 IFL in vm's user direct
will allow a guest to process on more than 1 IFL simultaneously.
Bob McCarthy
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On Tuesday, 12/09/2008 at 08:23 EST, Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
But when you carve out the volume on your modern DASD subsystem, the
volume will look like there is no residual data on it that would be
read from it with normal channel programs? A second hand DS8000 you
DOSBAM DCSS-S N/A00A00 00BFF --
CMSVSAM DCSS-M N/A00A00 00A80 ER
00AF0 00AFF EW
00B94 00BFF SR
CMSDOS DCSS-M N/A00B00 00B0C SR
CMSBAM DCSS-M N/A00B0D 00B37 SR
Many thanks , Steven
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Copy/pasted From z/VM 5.1's SEGBLIST SEGDATA:
:OBJNAME.CMSBAM :DEFPARMS.B0D-B37 SR :SPACE.DOSBAM :TYPE.SEG
:OBJDESC.CMSBAM ME
MBER OF THE DOSBAM
SEGMENT SPACE :GT_16MB.NO :SEGREQ.DOSINST :PRODID.5VMCMS10 CMS
:BLDPARMS.PPF(ZV
M CMS DMSSBBAM)
:OBJNAME.CMSDOS :DEFPARMS.B00-B0C SR
Watch out who you are calling Grandpa! It could be taken as age
discrimination. (Why am I complaining? One of my 3 grandkids graduated
from high school last June and the other two are due to graduate in June
2010.)
Regards,
Richard Schuh
even if is just a dumb old format like Grandpa used
On 12/9/08 10:30 AM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TcpSStatus contains the state information maintainted by the stack in
cooperation with the SSL server. I wanted to know if the state
information it returns it is sufficient to meet the needs of Mr.
Ackerman's programmers. If so, it
Historical note. This isn't IFL cpu consumption--IFL's hadn't been
invented yet. I remember back in the late 80's or so, running on a
maxed out 3090, the CP IND would show 101% CPU utilization. It may have
been a rounding error, but I think it was CP's way of saying, I'm
totally maxed out.
Will the expected PTF that will provide the CMS based SSL support be
announced in an IBM announcement or here or will I need to look on
IBMLINK or somewhere every day to see if it is available. Supposedly it
is going to be available this month.
Jim
--
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Cornell University
(972)
Our DASD Storage Management folks usually resort to having a bonded and
trusted vendor do the secure erase. Our z/OS systems are usually too
loaded to take on the task.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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On Tuesday, 12/09/2008 at 12:19 EST, Jim Bohnsack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Will the expected PTF that will provide the CMS based SSL support be
announced in an IBM announcement or here or will I need to look on
IBMLINK or somewhere every day to see if it is available. Supposedly it
is going
Alan Altmark wrote:
When it is available, it will drag along five additional PTFs, two for
TCP/IP and three for CMS. You will need all six to make it go.
Sounds like compiling Linux 390 from source and installing it might be
easier
than getting SSL on CMS :)
--
Jack J. Woehr#
How long does it take before a PTF makes it to an RSU tape?
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Jack Woehr
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 1:31 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: PTF providing CMS based SSL support
Alan
On 12/9/2008 at 2:30 PM, Jack Woehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-snip-
Sounds like compiling Linux 390 from source and installing it might be
easier
than getting SSL on CMS :)
Umm, no. Trust me on that one. Not even close.
Mark Post
On Tuesday, 12/09/2008 at 02:34 EST, Jack Woehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds like compiling Linux 390 from source and installing it might be
easier than getting SSL on CMS :)
LOL. Don't let your ears fool you!
The first time is the hardest. You have to hack your way through the
thick
Having been a technician my entire career I don't posses much knowledge of
the intricacies of the budgeting process. Here in short is what I've been
tasked with: The support of our linux guests was moved to the UNIX (AIX)
Admin group last year about this time. They are now suggesting we move
On Tuesday, 12/09/2008 at 02:37 EST, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
How long does it take before a PTF makes it to an RSU tape?
The general answer is It depends.
If we get enough orders for it, it goes on the RSU.
If it is new function, it typically goes on the RSU.
If it is important
See: http://www.linuxvm.org/present/SHARE110/S9206uc.pdf
This was a user who went the other way (AIX-Linux on z).
On 12/9/08 2:57 PM, Steve Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Having been a technician my entire career I don't posses much knowledge of
the intricacies of the budgeting process.
I will be out of the office starting 2008-12-05 and will not return until
2008-12-17.
I will take a long vacation from 12/5 to 12/17, during that period, I will
try to check email and response you everyday, except 12/10-14 as I am not
sure whether the internet is accessible.
During my absence,
Anybody got a copy of this or know where I can get one ? Can't seem to find
it anywhere
Crispin Hugo
Systems Programmer, Macro 4
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I do. I'll email it to you.
Ron
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Crispin Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anybody got a copy of this or know where I can get one ? Can't seem to find
it anywhere
Crispin Hugo
Systems Programmer, Macro 4
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 13:57:11 -0600, Steve Mitchell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Having been a technician my entire career I don't posses much knowledge
of
the intricacies of the budgeting process. Here in short is what I've be
en
tasked with: The support of our linux guests was moved to the UNIX
Now I am disillusioned. I thought you were one of them.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
Don't ask me when 0901 will
appear. Only the gods know that and they haven't Spoken to me.
Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott
I have the hard copy here.
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Steve Mitchell wrote:
Having been a technician my entire career I don't posses much knowledge of
the intricacies of the budgeting process. Here in short is what I've been
tasked with: The support of our linux guests was moved to the UNIX (AIX)
Admin group last year
From the announcement, you need to watch for the PTF for APAR PK65850.
When it is available, it will drag along five additional PTFs, two for
TCP/IP and three for CMS. You will need all six to make it go.
The actual APAR/PTFs to watch for are:
For TCP/IP:
PK65850 / UK40952
PK73085 / UK40952
Contact your IBM z/sales person (I know they are harder to find than hens teeth
now days) if you can find a good one they will be able to provide you with many
studies on the subject.
Maybe the most compelling of all is IBM's green effort. IBM itself expects to
save a billion dollars by moving
On Tuesday, 12/09/2008 at 03:35 EST, Les Geer (607-429-3580)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The actual APAR/PTFs to watch for are:
For TCP/IP:
PK65850 / UK40952
PK73085 / UK40952
Yes, one PTF will get you the fix for both APARs. The PTF is not yet
available in RETAIN however you can place
On Tuesday, 12/09/2008 at 04:21 EST, Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I would hope the DASD subsystem also has some facility that implements
what's required in the device to wipe out data.
I've got calls into Storage people to tell me where The Documentation is
on how to decommission
Let's say I have an external REXX function that needs to return more data than
there's space for in the default EVALBLOK that's provided by CMS. Allocating a
new one and storing it's addr in the EPLIST isn't a easy enough.
But, the should the original be CMSSTOR RELEASEd?
Not doing so causes
Our DASD Storage Management folks always contract with the vendor of the
DASD to scrub it before it leaves our floor. If I am not mistaken, they
require certain performance guarantees that can be verified and make
sure that a good sized bond is posted.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
-Original
Maybe, it depends on IBM sending you a guy with system z smarts and exposure or
a P guy. IBM is a two headed beast when it comes to selling virtualization
solutions. I've spoken with many an IBMer right up to the executive level
about this problem. Put a floor on the System z market and a
EPLIST isn't a easy enough.
EPLIST IS easy enough.
:-(
Leland
Over the last few weeks we have determined (without equivocation) that we
are z/VM communications mice. Communications men or women would have
dispatched the following problem forthwith.
What we are attempting to do is describe our connectivity requirements for
testing zVos to IBM¹s Dallas
There are several approaches to this.
You didn't mention if there is a virtual switch on the 1st level that your
second level guest attached to for connectivity.
One way or the other you need to get to the real OSA.
If there is a vswitch 1st level you could define 5 virtual nic triplets to
1. A second level VM system running on the Dallas First level.
2. On that second level system there are two server machines which have to
be able to communicate with a z/Vos management console in Birmingham via
HTTP.
Can machines on the 2nd level system reach your existing terminals via IP
On 12/9/2008 at 2:57 PM, Steve Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The support of our linux guests was moved to the UNIX (AIX)
Admin group last year about this time. They are now suggesting we move all
the linux work to AIX because its 'cheaper' and 'more reliable'.
Umm, yeah. Right.
I've
Hi Mike,
I do not have the ability to get the cpformat exec as the book explains.
Is this exec available somewhere else where I can just down load using
IND$FILE to my desk top and then from there I can upload it to my z/VM
system.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Terry
Well said, David. Also Mark Post in a later append on this thread.
Jim (IBM retiree and 100% mainframe believer) Bohnsack
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My apologies. I meant Neal Ferguson and wrote Mark Post. I'm sorry.
Jim
Well said, David. Also Mark Post in a later append on this thread.
Jim (IBM retiree and 100% mainframe believer) Bohnsack
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Les, you are missing PK75268 / UK41626. See
PTF UK41626 is already a pre-req of UK40952. Therefore all that
is needed to order is UK40952 which will obtain the support for the
two new APARs plus drag the existing APAR PK75268
Best Regards,
Les Geer
IBM z/VM and Linux Development
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 10:30:30 -0500, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
TcpSStatus contains the state information maintainted by the stack in
cooperation with the SSL server. I wanted to know if the state
information it returns it is sufficient to meet the needs of Mr.
Ackerman's programmers.
Hi Terry,
Attached.
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Hi Mike,
I do not have the ability to
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