Re: TERSE/DETERSE

2008-12-16 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Florian. Yes, there is a VM version of the TERSE/DETERSE utilities. On z/VM 5.4, the DETERSE module is found on MAINT's 5E5 disk. I think you can download the TERSE module for VM from an IBM web site. Florian Bilek wrote: Dear all, Under z/OS there exists a Terse Program to make

Re: Unable to PING the LINUX server

2008-12-16 Thread David Kreuter
Is it possible that 172.27.28.2 is the gw not 172.27.24.2? David Kreuter From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Ray Waters Sent: Tue 12/16/2008 8:47 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Unable to PING the LINUX server David, You

Re: Unable to PING the LINUX server

2008-12-16 Thread Ray Waters
David, You were correct; I had to enter the NETSTAT command twice: NETSTAT ARP ALL TCP DTCVSW1 VM TCP/IP Netstat Level 540 TCP/IP Server Name: DTCVSW1 DTCNET338E * MAC address is not in the ARP table. Ready(4); T=0.01/0.01 08:43:29 NETSTAT ARP ALL TCP DTCVSW1 VM TCP/IP Netstat Level

Re: TERSE/DETERSE

2008-12-16 Thread Thomas Kern
IBM release at least one version of TERSE. When we used Publication Maste r, we found DZATERSE MODULE and HELPCMS. It worked rather nicely to compress some large files for online archive. The normal DETERSE program worked fi ne to uncompress these files later. /Tom Kern On Tue, 16 Dec 2008

Re: The new RACF and FCP disks?

2008-12-16 Thread Lee Stewart
I speak EDEVs, but for various reasons EDEV is not a choice for this customer. They only have SAN disks - raw LUNs. (The VM system itself is installed on the few ECKD volumes -- all the Linuxen are on SAN only.) Lee Richard Troth wrote: You want EDEV. EDEV lets FCP disks look like

Re: Unable to PING the LINUX server

2008-12-16 Thread Mark Post
On 12/15/2008 at 3:22 PM, Ray Waters ray.wat...@opensolutions.com wrote: Mark, I can PING the GATEWAY from NOVSTART but not my pc. My pc is not running a FTP server so it should not respond, right? Wrong. If your PC is running a TCP/IP stack, and isn't firewalling off ICMP packets, it

Re: The new RACF and FCP disks?

2008-12-16 Thread Kris Buelens
But, using simulated FBA minidisks incur higher CP overheads that letting Linux use the FCP channels. 2008/12/16 Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com On Tuesday, 12/16/2008 at 11:07 EST, Lee Stewart lstewart.dsgr...@attglobal.net wrote: I speak EDEVs, but for various reasons EDEV is not a

Re: SLES10-SP2 Guest on VSWITCH w/2 VLANs

2008-12-16 Thread KEETON Dave * OR SDC
Can anyone point me to documents that cover the more complex vswitch and multi-VLAN configurations? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 10:05 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

Re: Installing PTF for TCPIP (Enabling SSL Server)

2008-12-16 Thread Mark Pace
I did the same today. Worked perfectly. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:32 AM, O'Brien, Dennis L Dennis.L.O'br...@bankofamerica.com dennis.l.o%27br...@bankofamerica.comwrote: Florian, I use SERVICE and PUT2PROD for TCP/IP service, just like I do for the other z/VM components: SERVICE ALL

Re: The new RACF and FCP disks?

2008-12-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 12/16/2008 at 11:07 EST, Lee Stewart lstewart.dsgr...@attglobal.net wrote: I speak EDEVs, but for various reasons EDEV is not a choice for this customer. They only have SAN disks - raw LUNs. (The VM system itself is installed on the few ECKD volumes -- all the Linuxen are on SAN

Re: Unable to PING the LINUX server

2008-12-16 Thread Ray Waters
Will get our network people involved. Thanks to all who responded. Ray -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 10:30 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Unable to PING the

Re: OSA layer 2 protocol connections...

2008-12-16 Thread Mark Pace
I've answered 1 question. I can not define a layer2 switch 2nd level and attach it to a 1st level layer3. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: If I update one VM to 5.4 before another running 5.2, can one be layer 2 while the other is layer 3? Each is sharing

Re: Unable to PING the LINUX server

2008-12-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 12/16/2008 at 10:24 EST, David Kreuter dkreu...@vm-resources.com wrote: Is it possible that 172.27.28.2 is the gw not 172.27.24.2? Can't be. With netmask 255.255.252.0, .24 and .28 are in separate subnets. Your gw must be in your subnet. (And the assigned IP addresses were

Re: OSA layer 2 protocol connections...

2008-12-16 Thread Mark Pace
Yes, you can have an OSA triplet attached to a z/VM tcpip in layer3 mode and another triplet from the same OSA attached to a z/VM tcpip in layer2 mode. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: If I update one VM to 5.4 before another running 5.2, can one be layer 2

Re: OSA layer 2 protocol connections...

2008-12-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 12/16/2008 at 10:02 EST, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: If I update one VM to 5.4 before another running 5.2, can one be layer 2 while the other is layer 3? Each is sharing the same physical OSA, but different addresses. I don't recall the machine on which it first

Re: The new RACF and FCP disks?

2008-12-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 12/15/2008 at 07:36 EST, Lee Stewart lstewart.dsgr...@attglobal.net wrote: Hi allDoes the new RACF (VM Security Server) handle protecting FCP disks? If so, how? By FCP device/CHPID? By target WWPN? By target LUN? I browsed the books but didn't find any FCP

Re: OSA layer 2 protocol connections...

2008-12-16 Thread Mark Pace
If I update one VM to 5.4 before another running 5.2, can one be layer 2 while the other is layer 3? Each is sharing the same physical OSA, but different addresses. While I am installing the new VM 2nd level I have it connected to my 1st level vswitch. Can the 2nd level vswitch be layer 2 while

Re: The new RACF and FCP disks?

2008-12-16 Thread Richard Troth
The overhead is real, but its cost is not clear. The difference between the performance of direct FCP -vs- EDEV has not been fully measured (or at least not widely reported.) I'm still looking for numbers. Which is faster? For a guest to perform QDIO or for CP to handle it? Traditionally, we

Re: The new RACF and FCP disks?

2008-12-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 12/16/2008 at 11:44 EST, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com wrote: But, using simulated FBA minidisks incur higher CP overheads that letting Linux use the FCP channels. The question was how does RACF protect FCP. If you want RACF to protect access to LUNs there is no choice but

Re: Unable to PING the LINUX server

2008-12-16 Thread Ray Waters
The OSA I was using was on our 28 network. I changed to an OSA on our 24 network and now all is connecting. Problem is solved. ping 172.16.24.129 Ping Level 540: Pinging host 172.16.24.129. Enter #CP EXT to interrupt. PING: Ping #1 response took 0.001 seconds. Successes so

DCSS and NSS backup code

2008-12-16 Thread Dave Jones
is attached to this note...enjoy. -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com

Re: DCSS and NSS backup code

2008-12-16 Thread David Kreuter
? nothing attached we will try it soon as we just regained access to the tape drive From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Dave Jones Sent: Tue 12/16/2008 3:47 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] DCSS and NSS backup code is attached to

Re: DCSS and NSS backup code

2008-12-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 12/16/2008 at 03:48 EST, Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com wrote: is attached to this note...enjoy. Attachments not allowed. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott

Re: DCSS and NSS backup code

2008-12-16 Thread Schuh, Richard
is attached to this note...enjoy. -- DJ No it isn't, at least not to the one I received.. Regards, Richard Schuh

Re: DCSS and NSS backup code

2008-12-16 Thread Dave Jones
oopssorry about thatmeant to sent it to the address right below IBMVM in my address book Alan Altmark wrote: On Tuesday, 12/16/2008 at 03:48 EST, Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com wrote: is attached to this note...enjoy. Attachments not allowed. Alan Altmark z/VM Development

Re: OSA layer 2 protocol connections...

2008-12-16 Thread Mark Pace
Is layer 2 only available to z/VM TCPIP and linux? I'm getting errors on my z/VSE guest and I don't even want to bother starting my z/OS 1.9 guest if it's not going to work on the layer 2 vswitch. I'll just go ahead and change the vswitch and TCPIP back to layer 3. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:31

Re: TERSE/DETERSE

2008-12-16 Thread Mike Walter
Sir Dave the Generous, Pray tell thee great Sir, wherefore might one find such a treasure as TER SE for VM? I have searched futilely over many years through deep blue caves , with torches and swords held high and low. This prize has always eluded mere mortals without close ties to IBM. Be

Re: OSA layer 2 protocol connections...

2008-12-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 12/16/2008 at 04:33 EST, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: Is layer 2 only available to z/VM TCPIP and linux? I'm getting errors on my z/VSE guest and I don't even want to bother starting my z/OS 1.9 guest if it's not going to work on the layer 2 vswitch. I'll just go ahead

Re: DCSS and NSS backup code

2008-12-16 Thread Huegel, Thomas
Now that you have our interest . -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:21 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DCSS and NSS backup code oopssorry about

Re: OSA layer 2 protocol connections...

2008-12-16 Thread Mark Pace
Thanks, Alan. Guess I'll be changing that z/VM back to a layer 3 vswitch. Guess I'll get to try it when I get to my Linux only z/VM system. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.comwrote: On Tuesday, 12/16/2008 at 04:33 EST, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: Is

Re: The new RACF and FCP disks?

2008-12-16 Thread Lee Stewart
Thanks, that's what I thought, but wanted to be sure... Lee Alan Altmark wrote: On Tuesday, 12/16/2008 at 11:07 EST, Lee Stewart lstewart.dsgr...@attglobal.net wrote: I speak EDEVs, but for various reasons EDEV is not a choice for this customer. They only have SAN disks - raw LUNs. (The VM