CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Jim Bohnsack
We are working toward eliminating VM/VTAM. One remaining application is for terminal access from VM to MVS. We have a userid, SNA, on VM that users DIAL into. They are presented with a MSG 10 screen giving the choices of destination. We would like to be able to allow users to DIAL SNA and

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Jim Bohnsack jab...@cornell.edu wrote: We are working toward eliminating VM/VTAM.  One remaining application is for terminal access from VM to MVS.  We have a userid, SNA, on VM that users DIAL into.  They are presented with a MSG 10 screen giving the choices of

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread David Boyes
Does anyone have any ideas short of just sending all users an email telling them to use telnet instead of SNA? If you have PVM, there is a way to set a notification on an attempt to connect to a host. You could also stand up YVETTE, which has a system message screen. You also might ask Rick

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Bob Bates
One of the things I in order to inform the DIAL users where to dial (it was a University) was to update the INPTAREA SAMPLE with a message so that the logo screen had the correct DIAL command above the COMMAND line. Example: Fill in you USERID and PASSWORD and press ENTER (Your password will no

Re: IBM 1401: was Re: z/VM 5.4 VSAM question - PJBR

2009-05-26 Thread Huegel, Thomas
Now I beg the question, 'What is the difference between an emulator, and a 'simulator?'. I always thought they were differentiated in that the emulator required a hardware feature and a simulator was all software. Is that correct? From: The IBM z/VM Operating

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread David Boyes
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Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Daniel Allen
Do you run TCPIP on your MVS guest ? If so, TN3270 should work. Re-training users how to use another method can be fun. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Bob Bates robert.ba...@wellsfargo.comwrote: One of the things I in order to inform the DIAL users where to dial (it was a University) was to

Re: IBM 1401: was Re: z/VM 5.4 VSAM question - PJBR

2009-05-26 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I think you are right, altho I also think that an emulator (if that is the name of the hardware piece) often would use some kind of specialized code that would facilitate the hardware feature. I am pretty sure that on the S/360-30, a hardware (firmware? microcode? an extra transister?) was

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Jim Bohnsack
It's not an MVS guest. MVS runs in it's own lpar. The user that I said users dial into is a VM userid running VM/VTAM with a connection to VTAM on the MVS lpar. "Re-training users how to use another method can be fun." Surely you jest :-) . Jim Daniel Allen wrote:

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Huegel, Thomas
You might want to take a look at z/VM TCPIP SCEXIT program. There are two parts to it,1) SCEXIT ASSEMBLE 2) SCEXIT EXEC ... Most likely you would only have to work with the REXX code in the EXEC .. Take a look and see if this will help. From: The IBM z/VM

Re: IBM 1401: was Re: z/VM 5.4 VSAM question - PJBR

2009-05-26 Thread Schuh, Richard
I did some programming for a bank that used a 360-20. On it, there was no DOS or TOS. You loaded the COS from a card deck immediately after power on, before you ran your 1401 programs. Earlier, while I was in the Army, we were preparing for the installation of a 360-40 that was to be run in

Re: IBM 1401: was Re: z/VM 5.4 VSAM question - PJBR

2009-05-26 Thread John P. Baker
When I started out in programming, over 40 years ago, the distinction was that an emulator was hardware assisted, while a simulator was pure software. John P. Baker From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009

Re: z/VM 5.4 VSAM question

2009-05-26 Thread David L. Craig
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 02:39:45AM -0400, Alan Altmark wrote: I'm not sure what you expect IBM to do. We have never used ICCF, only CMS for Applications Development and Production Control. I'm sure you can understand why. Management has had us stuck in the 20th Century and now seems to be

listing of hyper apars for z/vm 5.4 with rsu 0901

2009-05-26 Thread Hans Rempel
Does anyone have the URL to list hyper apars for this level? I think I had access to it once but can't seem to find it know. Hans

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Michael Coffin
Definitely look at the SCEXIT. If you have VM:Secure you can also look into the DIALFAIL LOGMSG and set up a DIAL REJECT rule for userid SNA. :) -Mike -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Tuesday, May

Re: XES Print Conversion

2009-05-26 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
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Re: z/VM 5.4 VSAM question

2009-05-26 Thread Edward M Martin
Hello Dave Craig, I think that you have been out of the zSeries world for a while. VSE/VSAM for VM is gone. Yes, this is a fact. As for the other parts, I think you need to go to WAVV next year. WWW.WAVV.ORG http://www.wavv.org/ Not all the new presentations are out there, but I

Re: z/VM 5.4 VSAM question

2009-05-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 05/26/2009 at 02:26 EDT, David L. Craig d...@radix.net wrote: We have never used ICCF, only CMS for Applications Development and Production Control. I'm sure you can understand why. Management has had us stuck in the 20th Century and now seems to be ready to accept the

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Mark Bodenstein
I work with Jim Bohnsack who asked the original question. Thanks for your suggestion Thomas, but since the DIAL happens (or doesn't happen) after the session is established I'm not sure how SCEXIT would help. I tried to download RXLDEV as mentioned in David Boyes note, but the VMARC file was

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Huegel, Thomas
I was thinking something like this... When the user establishes the TCP/IP session SCEXIT can interogate certain charactistics of the session i.e. the remote IP address or the destination PORT NUMBER. Then SCEXIT would immediatly redirect the session to be DIAL 'yourmvs' but since MVS is not a

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Mark Post
On 5/26/2009 at 9:23 AM, Jim Bohnsack jab...@cornell.edu wrote: We are working toward eliminating VM/VTAM. One remaining application is for terminal access from VM to MVS. We have a userid, SNA, on VM that users DIAL into. They are presented with a MSG 10 screen giving the choices of

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Schuh, Richard
On your malformed VMARC file, did you try the pipe file | fblock 80 0 | file trick? I have not needed it very often, but it does come in handy every now and then. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 05/26/2009 at 05:33 EDT, Mark Bodenstein m...@cornell.edu wrote: Thanks for your suggestion Thomas, but since the DIAL happens (or doesn't happen) after the session is established I'm not sure how SCEXIT would help. I tried to download RXLDEV as mentioned in David Boyes note,

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 05/26/2009 at 05:54 EDT, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote: So, why don't you just update the message put out in MSG10 to say what you want? That won't work if he gets rid of VTAM! :-) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread David Boyes
So, why don't you just update the message put out in MSG10 to say what you want? Mark Post Because he'd still have to be running VTAM for that to work. The other solutions mentioned allow him to drop VM/VTAM immediately, with no chance of someone working around the message using a manual

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Marcy Cortes
You can have diffefrent logo's for SNA vs. say LDEV or LOCAL. So, perhaps you can change your SNA LOGO to say something like You got here the wrong way. What you need to do is to following the directions here on this pretty website http://turkey.ourcompany.com/wrongway And if they don't by

Re: z/VM 5.4 VSAM question

2009-05-26 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, david. There is nothing stopping you from making an official request, through WAVV perhaps, that IBM provide new PL/I and/or COBOL compilers for CMS. As Alan as already noted, there is a new z/VM C/C++ compiler available for that environment now; IBM has already done almost all of the

Any idea? Dirmaint error by detach 123 disk(540RES)

2009-05-26 Thread Yoon-suk Cho
Hi. all . This is my really mistake things. I detached the 123 minidisk by maint user and then issuce this command 'dirm for maint replace'. Dirmaint try to refer 123 minidisk to update DIRECTORY file as following errors. Of course, I try to re-attach 123 minidisk (540RES) by maint to update

Re: Any idea? Dirmaint error by detach 123 disk(540RES)

2009-05-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 05/27/2009 at 12:53 EDT, Yoon-suk Cho isem...@gmail.com wrote: This is my really mistake things. I detached the 123 minidisk by maint user and then issuce this command 'dirm for maint replace'. Dirmaint try to refer 123 minidisk to update DIRECTORY file as following errors. Of