Re: Routing a CTC connection

2010-08-26 Thread Kris Buelens
I had this setup for our z/VM test machine ages back when we ran out of OSA addresses on a 9672. But I no longer find the config files used then. What I remember is - you need to turn on PROXYARP in ASSORTEDPARM in the TCP/IP stack of VM - you need to specify also the IP address of the guest

Coupling TN3270E sessions to VTAM

2010-08-26 Thread Dieltiens Geert
Hi all, I'm looking into the TN3270E server of TCP/IP for z/VM 5.4 as a replacement for a Cisco CIP/CPA TN3270E server. I have briefly tested the VM TN3270E server, and it seems to works fine. Using the Cisco based TN3270E server, our end-users get a VTAM SNA-session with an USSTAB menu, giving

Re: Coupling TN3270E sessions to VTAM

2010-08-26 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
You didn't mention any guests? Do you have VTAM available in them? If so you can CTCA and use CDRM and CDRSC to access the applications in other systems. Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of

Re: Coupling TN3270E sessions to VTAM

2010-08-26 Thread Dieltiens Geert
Well, when I have DIALed into VTAM on my VM-TN3270E session then I can reach all VTAM-cross-domain resources/applications (e.g. several CICS region in CTC attached VSEs, etc.), just like I can when using our Cisco TN3270E server. My concearn was more about the thousands of DIAL commands and

Re: Coupling TN3270E sessions to VTAM

2010-08-26 Thread David Boyes
On 8/26/10 4:02 AM, Dieltiens Geert geert.dielti...@inf.vanbreda.be wrote: I can do the same using the TN3270E server in VM: I can connect a TN3270E session to VM/VTAM using the DIAL VTAM command (manually, or from SCEXIT) which creates a Non-SNA-session on which I can show an USSTAB menu.

Re: Z/VM EMC Dasd Dynamic PAV's shared IODF

2010-08-26 Thread David Yeager
We haven't isolated the dasd by CU (yet). I'm interested in what the potential for falure is. So far with the MOD-3's we've had no ill side affects. I imagine the risk would be greater with MOD-9's but I've not found any written doc on this issue, as if no one would consider doing it?

Re: Z/VM EMC Dasd Dynamic PAV's shared IODF

2010-08-26 Thread David Yeager
http://www.vm.ibm.com/storman/pav/pav2.html#2006 , I finally found a writeup on the topic , at least up to date as of Z/VM 5.2.

Re: Coupling TN3270E sessions to VTAM

2010-08-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 08/26/2010 at 05:06 EDT, Dieltiens Geert geert.dielti...@inf.vanbreda.be wrote: I'm looking into the TN3270E server of TCP/IP for z/VM 5.4 as a replacement for a Cisco CIP/CPA TN3270E server. I have briefly tested the VM TN3270E server, and it seems to works fine. Using the

z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread Horlick, Michael
Greetings, We are currently running z/VM 5.2 and have z/VM 5.4 under test in a second level machine. We are pretty stable in our environment. There is a possibility within a year or so that we will be getting a z10. Should we go to 5.4 or 6.1? Are they any advantages in waiting for the new

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread Ron Schmiedge
Mike, zVM 6.1 requires a z10, so you can't go to 6.1 until you have a z10. 5.2 is unsupported, so the decision is do I run unsupported until I get a z10?. On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Horlick, Michael michael.horl...@cgi.com wrote: Greetings, We are currently running z/VM 5.2 and have

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread Mark Wheeler
From the z/VM 6.1 Announcement Letter: Hardware requirements z/VM V6.1 requires a new Architecture Level Set (ALS) that is available on the: System z10 Enterprise Class Refer to the DEVICE2097 Preventive Service Planning (PSP) bucket for the minimum MCL level and any required updates. System

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread Mario Izaguirre
Hi, all which we have z/VM 5.4.0 running on z10 BC, until we stand support? Best Regards, Mario Izaguirre Mainframe System Programmer Barcelona, Spain -Mensaje original- De: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] En nombre de Ron Schmiedge Enviado el:

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread Horlick, Michael
Hi Ron, I realize we are unsupported since April 30,2009. The z10 can run both 5.4 and 6.1, correct? And it seems that 6.1 is supported till April 30, 2013 while 5.4 is supported till Sept 30,2013 so it seems end of support shouldn't be an issue. I'm just looking at feature or

Re: Duplicate VOLID's

2010-08-26 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 23:07:04 -0500, Tom Huegel tehue...@gmail.com wrote : In a normal production environment this is not such an insurmountable problem. The problem is this is a test lab, and I don't necessarily know what happens to the different disk volumes. I do know what addresses my system

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread Marcy Cortes
5.4 runs fine on a z10 or a z196. We didn't find any compelling reason to go to 6.1 and will wait for the next one. Just about every new feature we are interested in is available as an SPE to 5.4. And it's way easier to put maintenance on 10 systems than it is to upgrade 10 systems. Marcy

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 08/26/2010 at 11:49 EDT, Horlick, Michael michael.horl...@cgi.com wrote: We are currently running z/VM 5.2 and have z/VM 5.4 under test in a second level machine. We are pretty stable in our environment. There is a possibility within a year or so that we will be getting a

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread Ron Schmiedge
Yes, 5.4 and 6.1 will both run on z10, and both are supported into 2013. If you can wait until you have a z10 then go to 6.1 when you get there, saves on time. Depending on your situation you could install 6.1 on the z10 as soon as you have it and when you switch machines switch to 6.1 at the same

Re: Coupling TN3270E sessions to VTAM

2010-08-26 Thread Dieltiens Geert
Thanks all, my questions have been answered. Bye, Geert. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: donderdag 26 augustus 2010 17:25 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Coupling TN3270E sessions to VTAM

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
Simple. z/VM 6.1 is needed for Z196 hardware. z/VM 5.4 will not run on it. It is positioning for the new hardware. Horlick, Michael michael.horl...@cgi.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 08/26/2010 12:04 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System

Re: Duplicate VOLID's

2010-08-26 Thread Michael MacIsaac
I do know what addresses my system disks are on, Ah! - an argument for the convention of using the RDEV as the last four characters of the volser :)) Mike MacIsaac mike...@us.ibm.com (845) 433-7061

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread Mark Pace
Here, Here!! On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.comwrote: On Thursday, 08/26/2010 at 11:49 EDT, Horlick, Michael michael.horl...@cgi.com wrote: We are currently running z/VM 5.2 and have z/VM 5.4 under test in a second level machine. We are pretty stable in

XRC timestamps for z/VM

2010-08-26 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
The z/VM Platform Update session at SHARE in Boston said that XRC timestamps were coming soon (Sep-Nov) for z/VM. Will that be for both 5.4 and 6.1, or 6.1 only? As we saw with the SSL server changes, what was said in the session is not necessarily definitive.

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread Marcy Cortes
That's not true. a z10 or z196 is needed for 6.1. But 5.4 will run on both of those boxes as well. marcy From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of George Henke/NYLIC Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:54 AM To:

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread Berry van Sleeuwen
Hi Mike, We run 5.4 on z10. And since we also have some VM's on z890 we have decided that 6.1 didn't give us the advantage we would need to justify maintaining two VM levels. As for your case, you can't run 6.1 on your current machine so look at it the other way. Can 5.2 run on z10? Or perhaps,

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
z/VM 6.1 is needed for Z196 hardware. z/VM 5.4 will not run on it. Incorrect. z/VM 5.4 will run on a z196. z/VM 5.3 and earlier will not. Dennis A few more

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
Thank you. I stand corrected and also learned something new today. z196 prereq's z/VM 6.1, but z/VM 6.1 does not prereq z196. Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 08/26/2010 03:42 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread Kris Buelens
z/VM 5.2 plus fixes runs fine on a z10 (I've got one such customer) 2010/8/26 Berry van Sleeuwen berry.vansleeu...@xs4all.nl Hi Mike, We run 5.4 on z10. And since we also have some VM's on z890 we have decided that 6.1 didn't give us the advantage we would need to justify maintaining two VM

Re: XRC timestamps for z/VM

2010-08-26 Thread Marcy Cortes
5.4 as well as 6.1 Marcy -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 12:02 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] XRC timestamps for z/VM The z/VM Platform Update

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread Marcy Cortes
Actually, z196 requires 5.4 or 6.1 (PTFs required for both) 6.1 requires a z10 or z196. It's all confusing :) Thank you. I stand corrected and also learned something new today. z196 prereq's z/VM 6.1, but z/VM 6.1 does not prereq z196. Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com Sent

EXECSERV documentation

2010-08-26 Thread Alan Winson
Some time within the last year I recall browsing a large EXECSERV manual online, but now I can't find it. I know from the archives that it hasn't been supported for a long time. My employer wants me to convert EXECSERV calls to use more modern, suppor ted tools. Documentation would be helpful.

Re: Duplicate VOLID's

2010-08-26 Thread Mark Wheeler
Alas, that's about the worst possible convention to adopt if you ever plan to replace your DASD farm. Mark Wheeler UnitedHealth Group Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:55:05 -0400 From: mike...@us.ibm.com Subject: Re: Duplicate VOLID's To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU I do know what addresses

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
ok, I'll try again. z196 prereq's z/VM 6.1 or z/VM 5.4 and z/VM 6.1 prereq's z10 or z196. So then How many peppers did Peter Piper pick? Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 08/26/2010 03:59 PM Please respond to The IBM

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread Austin, Alyce (CIV)
What put level of z/VM 5.4 is required to move it to the z10? From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 11:25 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread Marcy Cortes
Means 5.4 is a happy place to be ;) Not too cold not too hot. EOS date is later than 6.1 as well. Until we get that bright and shiny SSI stuff of couse! marcy From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of George Henke/NYLIC

EXECSERV documentation

2010-08-26 Thread Alan Winson
I found this 8000-line file, with machine carriage control, on one of the disks where I work: VM/SP EXEC Services Program March 8th, 1982 Jerry Metcoff Northwest Industries, Inc. Chicago Data Center So that solves my problem. I guess it isn't on any IBM web

Re: XRC timestamps for z/VM

2010-08-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 08/26/2010 at 03:39 EDT, O'Brien, Dennis L dennis.l.o'br...@bankofamerica.com wrote: The z/VM Platform Update session at SHARE in Boston said that XRC timestamps were coming soon (Sep-Nov) for z/VM. Will that be for both 5.4 and 6.1, or 6.1 only? As we saw with the SSL

Re: EXECSERV documentation

2010-08-26 Thread Mike Walter
It's seems to be on the tape from the 1987 VM Workshop hosted by Kansas State. Pasted: ---snip--- FORMAT LRECLRECORDSDATE TIME EXECSERV $MANUAL Z1V 70 3 05/20/87 16:44:34 EXECSERV $README Z1V

Re: XRC timestamps for z/VM

2010-08-26 Thread Marcy Cortes
Wasn't there another one related to performance and vswitch moving large amounts of stuff from one virtual server to another? Marcy -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 1:18

Re: XRC timestamps for z/VM

2010-08-26 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
Marcy, Perhaps you're thinking of the z/VM 6.1 virtual switch performance enhancement in the base, which applies to data moving between virtual servers. It uses some new instructions that are only on z10 and later.  

Re: XRC timestamps for z/VM

2010-08-26 Thread Marcy Cortes
Ah, yes, that's it. So it is a change that *has* been made, not a *will* be made from Alan's list. Marcy -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 1:25 PM To:

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
Reasons to go z196: •Has technological improvements including new Blade service center – ability to manage workload on x86 and Aix machines that are connected to z/OS via private network •Improved energy efficiency and ability to measure power usage •Greater engine speed and more sub-capacity

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 08/26/2010 at 04:10 EDT, Austin, Alyce (CIV) aus...@nps.edu wrote: What put level of z/VM 5.4 is required to move it to the z10? You *need* to be at service level 902, aka RSU 5404, but you will *want* to be at SL 1002 (RSU 5407), as some of the original PTFs were marked PE. See

Re: Sending files from CMS as Attachments

2010-08-26 Thread Bill Pettit
Does anyone out there have a copy of the SMTPNOTE EXEC that has been modified to send attached PDF files without destroying the format of the PDF files? My old copy from 1999 is hammering the PDF attachment. Thank you Bill Pettit -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System

Re: Duplicate VOLID's

2010-08-26 Thread RPN01
The obvious argument against using the rdev in the volser is when you end up needing to move the data to a new volume, or restore the pack after a physical problem, then you no longer have a match between the volser and the rdev, and it becomes very confusing from there. There really isn¹t one

Re: Sending files from CMS as Attachments

2010-08-26 Thread Lionel Dyck
What about the MAILIT from the IBM z/VM Download page http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/mailit.vmarc It can handle binary attachments. Lionel Lionel B. Dyck z/Linux Specialist IBM Corporation Global Technology Services - Kaiser Account Work: 925-926-5332 Cell: 925-348-0237 E-Mail:

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread Austin, Alyce (CIV)
Is RSU 5407 available? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 1:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10 On Thursday, 08/26/2010 at 04:10 EDT,

Re: EXECSERV documentation

2010-08-26 Thread Mike Walter
Well... that was a bust. The EXECSERVE $MANUAL file contained: The EXECSERV MANUAL file has been omitted due to space considerations. The entire EXECSERV package is available on the Waterloo VM mods tape. Interested parties are directed to that tape. I could not find any files with names

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 08/26/2010 at 05:00 EDT, Austin, Alyce (CIV) aus...@nps.edu wrote: Is RSU 5407 available? Yes. http://www.vm.ibm.com/service/rsu/ is your friend. From there you can link to RSU contents, as well as discover how to equate the Service Level with the stacked RSU number. Alan

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread Austin, Alyce (CIV)
Does RSU 5407 run on the z800? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 2:22 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10 On Thursday, 08/26/2010 at 05:00

Re: Duplicate VOLID's

2010-08-26 Thread Schuh, Richard
That is absolutely the wrong thing to do. I am now suffering because someone else did that to dasd that is EMFFd to 3 LPARS. (It was all ZLccuu). It requires meticulous record keeping and is very error prone. I did wipe out a disk needed by one system because the records I received were not

Re: Sending files from CMS as Attachments

2010-08-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 08/26/2010 at 05:00 EDT, Lionel Dyck/Oakland/i...@ibmus wrote: What about the MAILIT from the IBM z/VM Download page http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/mailit.vmarc It can handle binary attachments. Anything wrong with SENDFILE? SF MY PDF TO user AT domain.com (MIME

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread Ron Schmiedge
My 5.4 testbed (second level under 5.4) is running at RSU 1002 (5407) now, no complaints from my testbed and everyone is playing on a z800. There is also a list of service (the 2098ZVM bucket) required in addition to RSU 1002 to support a z10. On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Austin, Alyce (CIV)

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 08/26/2010 at 05:33 EDT, Austin, Alyce (CIV) aus...@nps.edu wrote: Does RSU 5407 run on the z800? RSUs don't change the architectural level set (ALS) or the supported processor list for the release, so, yes, it still works on a z800. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott

Re: Sending files from CMS as Attachments

2010-08-26 Thread Bill Pettit
I'll give it a try. Thank you. Bill -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Lionel Dyck Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 1:57 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Sending files from CMS as Attachments What about the

Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10

2010-08-26 Thread Austin, Alyce (CIV)
Great...I can have it ready to go when we get our z10 BC!!! -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 3:22 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4 or 6.1 on new z10 On

Re: Sending files from CMS as Attachments

2010-08-26 Thread Bill Pettit
Yep, I had finally broke down and pulled up the CMS manual and found the mime binary-attach option that I was missing. It helps to practice what you preach... Thank you all Bill -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan

Re: Duplicate VOLID's

2010-08-26 Thread Scott Rohling
Hmm.. RACF isn't really related as it's protecting minidisks on z/VM, at least - and doesn't care about volsers the mindisks are on.The process for DIRMAINT is probably similar to the things that need doing on VM:Secure to do the directory changes: - Make a 'monolithic' copy of the

Re: Duplicate VOLID's

2010-08-26 Thread Schuh, Richard
DIRMAINT is just a directory manager. It is similar to the directory manager component of VM:Secure. DIRMAINT does have the capability to do mass updates of the directory. VM:Secure does not. I have my own form of mass updater. I create code to perform the update of a generic single user and

Re: Sending files from CMS as Attachments

2010-08-26 Thread Schuh, Richard
You make it look too easy, Alan :-) Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 3:00 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Sending files from CMS

Re: Duplicate VOLID's

2010-08-26 Thread Tom Huegel
So I guess there is no way to absolutly protect z/VM from using the wrong pack at IPL.. Maybe a requirement? In SYSTEM CONFIG allow optional rdev on the SLOT deffinations. comments? On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: DIRMAINT is just a directory manager. It

Re: Duplicate VOLID's

2010-08-26 Thread Scott Rohling
Then it sounds like changing volids isn't such a big deal? ;-) Automation can really help simplify the annoying stuff.. Scott Rohling On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: DIRMAINT is just a directory manager. It is similar to the directory manager

Re: Duplicate VOLID's

2010-08-26 Thread Scott Rohling
Would definitely agree an rdev specification on the SLOT def would be very useful.I just recently built a 2nd level guest and neglected to relabel the volumes before they IPL'd the 1st level system ... ugly. Wouldn't have happened if the real address was specified... good idea! Scott

Re: Duplicate VOLID's

2010-08-26 Thread Dale R. Smith
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:58:08 -0700, Tom Huegel tehue...@gmail.com wrote : So I guess there is no way to absolutly protect z/VM from using the wron g pack at IPL.. Maybe a requirement? In SYSTEM CONFIG allow optional rdev on the SLOT deffinations. comments? I would rather see z/VM issue prompt

Re: Duplicate VOLID's

2010-08-26 Thread Rich Smrcina
How much 'protection' is really necessary here? If something like this is implemented *AND* the wrong device number is used in the slot definition, your system could be rendered non-IPLable because the volid on the slot doesn't match the one on the volume. What takes precedence? Should the

Re: Duplicate VOLID's

2010-08-26 Thread Tom Huegel
One can't always be sure the packs are labeled properly.. Besides why depend on people when software can do it better. I suspect the reasons for VM just choosing by volid goes back to when the disk packs were removable, put your second level testRES on the shelf when you were done. Putting an