Re: ACM award - they deserve it....

2010-04-01 Thread Bill Munson
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: ACM award - they deserve it Are any of the IBM OS,s trade marked? On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Steele, Phil stee...@tabcorp.com.au wrote: Some of this vast proliferation of servers was indeed (in the case of the vaguely cluey

Re: ACM award - they deserve it....

2010-04-01 Thread Carol Everitt
http://www.ibm.com/legal/us/en/copytrade.shtml

Re: ACM award - they deserve it....

2010-04-01 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/31/2010 at 11:24 EDT, Tom Huegel tehue...@gmail.com wrote: Are any of the IBM OS,s trade marked? VM/ESA, z/VM, z/OS, z/VSE, and OS/390 are all registered trademarks of IBM (at least in the US). As Carol posted, http://www.ibm.com/legal/us/en/copytrade.shtml (I include z/VSE

Re: ACM award

2010-04-01 Thread Jim Elliott
Correction: *publicizing* the office productivity suite. Amoco (IIRC) gets the invention prize for that little gem. To be correct, PROFS was developed as by IBM Dallas for Amoco, then release as a PRPQ, then as a product. Jim

Re: ACM award

2010-04-01 Thread Tom Huegel
What irks me even mor is the audasity of the VMware folks to steal the 'VM' part of the name. If they wanted to be different couldn't they have used VS? On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Jim Elliott jelli...@gdlvm7.vnet.ibm.comwrote: Correction: *publicizing* the office productivity suite.

Re: ACM award

2010-03-31 Thread Les Koehler
I seem to remember, around 1981, seeing a demonstration of an experimental PROFS at Yorktown Heights. IBM had just opened the Special Planned Programs facility in Tampa to get back into the timeshare market and we were considering their PROFS as our offering. I even had a copy of PROFS source

Re: ACM award

2010-03-31 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:01 AM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote: You mean VMware isn't a clothing line?? I sometimes spell it VMwear.   And like you, Jim - I'm quick to correct anyone who thinks about using just 'VM' to refer to their little upstart virtualization product. Oh,

Re: ACM award

2010-03-31 Thread Kris Buelens
Makes me remember a small support contract had to be created for a customer of mine. My boss forwarded some quickly written tasks to perform to an admin to put it in a contract. This admin carefully changed every occurance of VM by the official term VMware :-) Since then I often respond just

Re: ACM award

2010-03-31 Thread Bill Munson
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: ACM award Today the Association for Computing Machinery (of which I have been a member since 1970) made the following award: VMware Workstation 1.0, the Software System Award, for bringing virtualization technology to modern computing

Re: ACM award - they deserve it....

2010-03-31 Thread Barton Robinson
System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: ACM award Today the Association for Computing Machinery (of which I have been a member since 1970) made the following award: VMware Workstation 1.0, the Software System Award, for bringing virtualization

Re: ACM award - they deserve it....

2010-03-31 Thread Dave Wade
savings. So the bean counters can't show cost reductions, so they don't like it utterly blinkered Dave. - Original Message - From: Barton Robinson bar...@vm1.velocity-software.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:53 PM Subject: Re: ACM award

Re: ACM award - they deserve it....

2010-03-31 Thread Gregg
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Dave Wade g4...@dpwade.eclipse.co.uk wrote: Whilst VMWare is fun to manage, it needs managing and also capacity planning and opportunities(?), I guess, based on a background in IBM VM Perf and CapPlan, I've been given the opportunity(?) to perform VMWare

Re: ACM award - they deserve it....

2010-03-31 Thread Gary M. Dennis
(even for bean counters) as one might imagine. Those same bean counters will be the first ones to ask Why not 1 box instead of 50? just like they asked Why not 50 boxes instead of 500?. Wouldn't that be preferable to an ACM award? --. .- .-. -.-- Gary Dennis Mantissa Corporation 0 ... living

Re: ACM award - they deserve it....

2010-03-31 Thread Steele, Phil
Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2010 2:32 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: ACM award - they deserve it In my humble opinion the main reason VMWare (an to a lesser extent HyperV) is popular at present is because it allows bean counters to demonstrate huge instant savings. Where

Re: ACM award - they deserve it....

2010-03-31 Thread Tom Huegel
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Wade Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2010 2:32 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: ACM award - they deserve it In my humble opinion the main reason VMWare

ACM award

2010-03-30 Thread Chip Davis
Today the Association for Computing Machinery (of which I have been a member since 1970) made the following award: VMware Workstation 1.0, the Software System Award, for bringing virtualization technology to modern computing environments, spurring a shift to virtual-machine architectures, and

Re: ACM award

2010-03-30 Thread Mike Walter
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject ACM award Today the Association for Computing Machinery (of which I have been a member since 1970) made the following award: VMware Workstation 1.0, the Software System Award, for bringing virtualization technology to modern computing environments, spurring

Re: ACM award

2010-03-30 Thread Michael Harding
/2010 02:52 PM Subject: Re: ACM award Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU sigh I can understand modern computing organizations being ignorant of historical modern computing environments such as z/VM -- but the ACM? Perhaps their selection committee was comprised

Re: ACM award

2010-03-30 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 03/30/2010 at 06:28 EDT, Michael Harding/Oakland/i...@ibmus wrote: You caught the hedge too. z/VM - or any mainframe OS - is probably considered classic as opposed to modern. But truly modern today would be hand-helds, phones or all-pervasive (built into the surroundings),

Re: ACM award

2010-03-30 Thread Jim Elliott
Today the Association for Computing Machinery (of which I have been a member since 1970) made the following award: VMware Workstation 1.0, the Software System Award, for bringing virtualization technology to modern computing environments, spurring a shift to virtual-machine architectures,

Re: ACM award

2010-03-30 Thread Scott Rohling
You mean VMware isn't a clothing line?? I sometimes spell it VMwear. And like you, Jim - I'm quick to correct anyone who thinks about using just 'VM' to refer to their little upstart virtualization product. Nothing against VMware itself - they've raised the bar in some ways for some things in

Re: ACM award

2010-03-30 Thread David Boyes
On 3/30/10 5:50 PM, Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com wrote: I can understand modern computing organizations being ignorant of historical modern computing environments such as z/VM -- but the ACM? Doesn't surprise me at all. The ACM has gotten progressively more myopic wrt to doing their

Re: ACM award

2010-03-30 Thread David Boyes
On 3/30/10 5:42 PM, Chip Davis c...@aresti.com wrote: Aside from the run multiple OSes on the desktop part, shouldn't we be insulted? Oh, it gets better. Check this out (from the press release): Software System Award (sic) honors an institution or individual(s) recognized for developing a

Re: ACM award

2010-03-30 Thread David Boyes
On 3/30/10 10:34 PM, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: Talk about someone that ought to know better Although I guess the out is that it's a yearly award and the commercial acceptance clause is slick enough to slide by. Then again, *how* many copies of PROFS were there? I guess IBM