Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-15 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:52:35 -0500, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: The standard defines alphabetic as A-Z (actually, A, B, C, D, etc. to avoid confusion) and numeric as 0-9. So, our existing labeling programs that allow blanks in the middle of labels (very annoying) and characters

Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-12 Thread Schuh, Richard
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas On Thursday, 03/11/2010 at 03:19 EST, Daniel P. Martin dmar...@gizmoworks.com wrote: Well, yes, the semicolon does work... but if you're going to have to do new work to hack the way DDR parses statements

Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 03/11/2010 at 05:39 EST, Brian Nielsen bniel...@sco.idaho.gov wrote: The main problem to solve is still the same as the original posters' problem: The DASD label might contain the special characters or character DASD labels of @@, ¢¢, and /* */ are all valid Sorry if

Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-12 Thread Schuh, Richard
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas On Thursday, 03/11/2010 at 05:39 EST, Brian Nielsen bniel...@sco.idaho.gov wrote: The main problem to solve is still the same as the original posters' problem: The DASD label might contain the special

Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-11 Thread Ivica Brodaric
I like to use the line delete symbol as a way to add comments to my DDR control files. So, we will all now suffer a brand new control statement because of you. ;-)

Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 03/11/2010 at 06:44 EST, Ivica Brodaric ivica.broda...@gmail.com wrote: So, we will all now suffer a brand new control statement because of you. ;-) I don't mind leaving the cent sign as a comment prefix delimiter (not as a line delete) for compatibility, but we'll want another

Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-11 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:49:46 -0500, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: On Thursday, 03/11/2010 at 06:44 EST, Ivica Brodaric ivica.broda...@gmail.com wrote: So, we will all now suffer a brand new control statement because of yo u. ;-) I don't mind leaving the cent sign as a comment

Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 03/11/2010 at 12:16 EST, Brian Nielsen bniel...@sco.idaho.gov wrote: If you were inclined to add an official comment syntax to DDR control files I would suggest using REXX style comments as are also used in SYSTEM CONFIG. I suppose another choice could be the semi-colon as used

Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-11 Thread Daniel P. Martin
Well, yes, the semicolon does work... but if you're going to have to do new work to hack the way DDR parses statements anyhow, REXX-ish syntax would certainly be a desirable approach. Not that I have any delusions about the development process being at all democratic, but if you're

Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-11 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:21:07 -0500, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: Semicolon works ok as it allows INPUT 181 TAPE ( LEAVE ; Comment on the same line and ; Full line comment Today you have to code Comment on same line ¢INPUT 181 TAPE ( LEAVE and Full line comment ¢

Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 03/11/2010 at 03:23 EST, Brian Nielsen bniel...@sco.idaho.gov wrote: The version with the cent sign in the middle of the line does not work as you are expecting. A cent sign anywhere in the line discards the entire line, not just what is before it. So, contrary to the doc, it

Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-11 Thread Schuh, Richard
Boy, is that old. Regards, Richard Schuh Most often, the default values for these two symbols are defined for each virtual machine at system generation. When you use the CP TERMINAL command to redefine the CHARDEL and LINEDEL characters, the redefinitions have no effect on

Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 03/11/2010 at 03:19 EST, Daniel P. Martin dmar...@gizmoworks.com wrote: Well, yes, the semicolon does work... but if you're going to have to do new work to hack the way DDR parses statements anyhow, REXX-ish syntax would certainly be a desirable approach. Not that I have any

Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-11 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:43:14 -0500, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: If I ran the zoo, I would propose that DDR - no longer check for @ - continue to obey Ý as it does today. - add an actual comment capability The main problem to solve is still the same as the original posters'

Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-11 Thread Daniel P. Martin
Oh. I'm sorry. I didn't realize you had wandered down the primrose path of thinking I was trying to suggest what some might call the easy solution... :-p Yeah. I know. Somewhere next week, in Seattle, when I least expect it, I will pay. *sigh* -dan. On 3/11/2010 3:58 PM, Alan Altmark

Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-11 Thread Mark Post
On 3/11/2010 at 05:47 PM, Daniel P. Martin dmar...@gizmoworks.com wrote: Yeah. I know. Somewhere next week, in Seattle, when I least expect it, I will pay. Just being in Seattle isn't punishment enough? I vote for clemency. Mark Post

Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-10 Thread Colin Allinson
I have a series of automated slaves that read a control file and perform DDR copies. These slaves do not have their own RW minidisks so they queue the commands for DDR. In this case the target volume has a label of d...@d5f3 but DDR is winging at a label mismatch. I have traced my exec and can

Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-10 Thread Imler, Steven J
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas I have a series of automated slaves that read a control file and perform DDR copies. These slaves do not have their own RW minidisks so they queue the commands for DDR. In this case the target volume has a label of d

Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-10 Thread Colin Allinson
Imler, Steven J steven.im...@ca.com wrote:- To be sure try ... d...@d5f3 OK - tried that but it showed that it was trying to match to VD5F3. This suggests that @ is still operating as CHARDEL even though it is set OFF. Just to clarify - all TERM characters (except LINEND) are OFF L

Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-10 Thread Colin Allinson
I should read the DDR help more carefully next time !! When you use the CP TERMINAL command to redefine the CHARDEL and LINEDEL characters, the redefinitions have no effect on DDR line editing. DDR continues to recognize the at sign (@) and the cent sign (¢) as valid CHARDEL and LINEDEL

Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-10 Thread Dieltiens Geert
C° Tel.: + 32 3 217 50 16 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Colin Allinson Sent: woensdag 10 maart 2010 12:45 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas I have

Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-10 Thread Mike Walter
, not my employer's. Colin Allinson cgallin...@amadeus.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 03/10/2010 05:44 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any

Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/10/2010 at 09:25 EST, Nick Laflamme dplafla...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be very tempted to open a PMR and request they also respect an ESCAPE character. It's only fair. But that's a long-term solution, not a short-term solution. :-( Go ahead and open a PMR. While it is

Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-10 Thread Colin Allinson
Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com wrote :- What happens if your control statement volser matches the volser reported by DDR, e.g. OUT D5F3 DASD v...@d5f3 Is the actual DASD volser being written to really d...@d543, or actually v...@d5f3 as reported by DDR? Sorry, that was a typo. I

Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-10 Thread Brian Nielsen
I like to use the line delete symbol as a way to add comments to my DDR control files. Brian Nielsen On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:07:36 +0100, Colin Allinson cgallin...@amadeus.com wrote: I should read the DDR help more carefully next time !! When you use the CP TERMINAL command to redefine the