problem ?
Thanks,Bob
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Please post the console
PM
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Please post the console messages from post syslog going down.
Marcy
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The CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN command has helped to clarify our problem. It
appear that the problem may be in the way linux shuts itself dowm. With t
he
command, it appear that everthing works as designed from a vm standpoint;
however linux never seems to complete it's shutdown. Although a guest is
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The CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN command has helped to clarify our problem. It
appear that the problem may be in the way linux shuts itself dowm. With
the
command, it appear that everthing works as designed from a vm
standpoint;
however linux
Subject: Re: Clean Linux Guest Shutdown
We start/stop oracle with an init.d script so oracle's start/stop is
part of Linux's boot and shutdown sequence.
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8:46 AM
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The CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN command has helped to clarify our problem. It
appear that the problem may be in the way linux shuts itself dowm.
With the command, it appear that everthing works as designed from a vm
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We start/stop oracle with an init.d script so oracle's start/stop is
part of Linux's boot and shutdown sequence.
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I CP FORCE guest WITHIN nn
Like CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN
On Wednesday, 06/10/2009 at 02:01 EDT, Robert J McCarthy
bob.mccar...@custserv.com wrote:
John,
I am sorry I wasn't clear. VM and linux are communicating :
When I enter the CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN command from MAINT linux begins
shutting down. A short time later vm receives the termination from
It
appears that linux sends the termination response to vm before it has
really completed it's (linux)shutdown. In linux's inittab we have
shutdown -h coded.
But your example shows a automatic reboot and the system trying to come back
up. Something else is wrong... do you specify
We have the shutdown -
h
in
the inittab.
Hmm. But you are still getting the shutting down for reboot message, which
seems odd to me. I think there's something funny in your init scripts for
starting/stopping Oracle -- there should be something there that makes the
shutdown process
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It
appears that linux sends the termination response to vm before it has
really completed it's (linux)shutdown
, June 10, 2009 1:59 PM
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John,
I am sorry I wasn't clear. VM and linux are communicating :
When I enter the CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN command from MAINT linux begins
shutting down. A short time later vm receives the termination from
On 6/10/2009 at 3:15 PM, Robert J McCarthy bob.mccar...@custserv.com
wrote:
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We did not have vmpoff=LOGOFF in the parm lines. The linux guests were
in a vm DSC status. We were not logged into any of them. I did notice
however that the guests were all logged off of vm once the vm
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John,
I am sorry I wasn't clear. VM and linux are communicating :
When I enter the CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN command from MAINT linux begins
Please post the console messages from post syslog going down.
Marcy
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( resent to correct my /etc/init.d/rc.3/ to /etc/init.d/rc3.d/) Bob, I
think it's as the others said, Linux is shutting down the way you told
it to do but not the way you intend it to do:
Here's how we shutdown a disconnected sles 10 oracle server
When I issue the shutdown, vm shuts down before most if not all linux
guests have responded or completed shutdown; always within a minute or two.
Are you using IMMEDIATE operand of SHUTDOWN command? IMMEDIATE doesn't mean
now, it means without sending any signals.
Ivica Brodaric
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I have also written a shutdown exec to cleanly shutdown
control, before I actually shutdown vm
Thanks, Bob
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Thank all of you for your input. I have tested the CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN
guest WITHIN xx and it does exactly what I want. I am writing an exec
to shutdown each guest
On Jun 3, 2009, at 12:43 PM, Robert J McCarthy wrote:
I am trying to develop a shutdown procedure to cleanly shutdown my
linux guests, prior to shutting down vm. Reading the documentation
in the virtualization cookbook for SLES10 and the vm CP COMMANDS
manual; I have setup the following :
Linux Guest Shutdown
I have an exec I run that runs through a table and sends the command to each
linux.
'CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN ' linux ' WITHIN 60'
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Adam Thornton
athorn...@sinenomine.netmailto:athorn...@sinenomine.net wrote:
On Jun 3, 2009, at 12:43 PM, Robert J
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I have an exec I run that runs through a table and sends the command to
each linux.
'CP SIGNAL
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Why not CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN ALL instead of the table.
Regards
,
Bob
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Have you updated each Linux guest so
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I am trying to develop a shutdown procedure to cleanly shutdown my linux
guests, prior to shutting down vm. Reading the documentation in the
virtualization cookbook for SLES10 and the vm CP COMMANDS manual; I
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On Jun 3, 2009, at 12:43 PM, Robert J McCarthy wrote:
I am trying to develop a shutdown procedure to cleanly shutdown my linux
guests, prior to shutting down vm. Reading the documentation in the
virtualization cookbook for SLES10 and the vm
] Clean Linux Guest Shutdown
Mike,
Per the linux doc for SLES10 it states that the following change be
made :
In each linux guest's /etc/inittab; I have changed the shutdown -r to
shutdown -h
Is there something else from a linux standpoint that needs to be done
On 6/3/2009 at 1:43 PM, Robert J McCarthy bob.mccar...@custserv.com
wrote:
I am trying to develop a shutdown procedure to cleanly shutdown my linux
guests, prior to shutting down vm. Reading the documentation in the
virtualization cookbook for SLES10 and the vm CP COMMANDS manual; I have
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Richard and Mark,
Am I right in assuming that CP SIGNAL will only shutdown the guests
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Issue Q SIGNALS, Q SHUTDOWN, Q SIGNAL SHUTDOWNTIME from your VM system
In /etc/zipl.conf, change
parameters = root=/dev/dasda1 TERM=dumb
To
parameters = root=/dev/dasda1 TERM=dumb vmpoff=LOGOFF vmhalt=LOGOFF
Marcy
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On 6/3/2009 at 2:52 PM, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com
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In /etc/zipl.conf, change
parameters = root=/dev/dasda1 TERM=dumb
To
parameters = root=/dev/dasda1 TERM=dumb vmpoff=LOGOFF vmhalt=LOGOFF
This is also unnecessary. It just causes the guest to log itself off,
On 6/3/2009 at 2:44 PM, Robert J McCarthy bob.mccar...@custserv.com
wrote:
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Q shutdown
System shutdown time: 30 seconds
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:22:33
q signal shutdowntime
System default shutdown signal timeout: 1200 seconds
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On 6/3/2009 at 2:52 PM, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote
: Clean Linux Guest Shutdown
That assumption is correct, even if you use the ALL parameter. That causes the
signal to be sent to all guests that have registered to receive it, but not to
those who haven't registered. The actual shutdown is via the SHUTDOWN command
which is separate from the SIGNAL
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On 6/3/2009 at 2:52 PM, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com
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In /etc/zipl.conf, change
parameters = root=/dev/dasda1 TERM=dumb
To
parameters = root=/dev/dasda1 TERM=dumb vmpoff=LOGOFF vmhalt=LOGOFF
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Be aware CP SIGNAL ALL tells all the non-linux guests like the Shared File
System servers VMSERVS,U,R to shutdown.
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On 6/3/2009 at 2:52 PM, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote:
In /etc/zipl.conf, change
parameters = root=/dev/dasda1 TERM=dumb
To
parameters = root=/dev/dasda1 TERM=dumb vmpoff=LOGOFF vmhalt=LOGOFF
This is also unnecessary. It just causes the
I'm with you Stephen, I like to see them logoff also. Then I'm really sure
they are down.
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Stephen Frazier ste...@doc.state.ok.uswrote:
It may be unnecessary, but I like to see them go away when they are
finished shutting down. I also prefer my desktop to
Dude, you need to run Linux on your desktop ;-)
Scott
It may be unnecessary, but I like to see them go away when they are finished
shutting down. I also prefer my desktop to actually turn off instead of
displaying a message saying you can power off now but maybe I am .
:)
--
Stephen
On 6/3/2009 at 4:18 PM, Stephen Frazier ste...@doc.state.ok.us wrote:
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It may be unnecessary, but I like to see them go away when they are
finished shutting down. I also prefer my desktop to actually turn off
instead of displaying a message saying you can power off now but
maybe I
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote:
Why not CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN ALL instead of the table.
From the peanut - uh performance gallery... If you have a lot of
Linux servers, the orderly shutdown may actually take quite some
paging resources to complete. When the
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On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Schuh, Richard
rsc...@visa.com wrote:
Why not CP
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Be aware CP SIGNAL ALL tells all the non-linux guests like the Shared File
System servers VMSERVS,U,R to shutdown.
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Of Schuh, Richard
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: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 5:54 PM
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That makes sense ... if it doesn't just seem longer (remember, pacing
takes time, too - it is just spent waiting idly instead of waiting for
the work to be done) and paging during SHUTDOWN is something you
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