Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-04-04 Thread Alain Benveniste
- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Les Geer (607-429-3580) Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 08:42 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment Les and JR, Firstly : Thanks to gave me the info 'PMH

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-04-04 Thread Imler, Steven J
12:12 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment Jr, If you are interested in, I can send you a copy of our z/VM440. Regards Alain Le 4/04/08 3:26, « Imler, Steven J » [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Hmmm ... Les, Alain did say z/VM

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-04-04 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
] -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alain Benveniste Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 12:12 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment Jr, If you are interested in, I can send

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-04-04 Thread Imler, Steven J
Of Les Geer (607-429-3580) Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 01:55 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment A word of caution here, I realize it appears the problem is resolved going from z/VM 4.4 and 5.3. However, I can not tell you any change

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-04-03 Thread Alain Benveniste
Les and JR, Firstly : Thanks to gave me the info 'PMH 84921,004,000'. I asked our hardware to l ook at this. I don't have a feedback yet. Secondly : I was able to IPL our z/VM530 today and ... - from z/VM440, I ipled z/VM530 2nd lvl and did a test about the target : nothing changed. Problem

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-04-03 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
Les and JR, Firstly : Thanks to gave me the info 'PMH 84921,004,000'. I asked our hardware to l ook at this. I don't have a feedback yet. Secondly : I was able to IPL our z/VM530 today and ... - from z/VM440, I ipled z/VM530 2nd lvl and did a test about the target : nothing changed. Problem

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-04-03 Thread Imler, Steven J
Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment Les and JR, Firstly : Thanks to gave me the info 'PMH 84921,004,000'. I asked our hardware to l ook at this. I don't have a feedback yet. Secondly : I was able to IPL our z/VM530 today and ... - from z/VM440, I ipled z/VM530

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)
, 2008 6:45 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment Have you considered how you will get data from the local VTS to the remote VTS? Smith, Ann (ISD, IT) wrote: Thanks. I was hoping to VMTAPE mount the maintenance tapes to the other VM systems

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
I'm sure the people planning for the new hardware have considered it. I was just concerned that in their plan they had no native physical tape for VM. Ann, You should check. Our storage people brought in a remote VTS to replace tapes that were being physically moved offsite. They were

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Alain Benveniste
I suppose you would be aware of our peer-to-peer problem. When we got a 2nd 3494 in 2004, we decided to make them talk each other a s P2P mode. This situation revealed a major problem related to the target category. In basic mode, asking to mount a scratch through vmtape, rmsmastr changed the

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Gentry, Stephen
Rob do you know what might be causing the errors below?

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
I suppose you would be aware of our peer-to-peer problem. When we got a 2nd 3494 in 2004, we decided to make them talk each other as P2P mode. This situation revealed a major problem related to the target category. In basic mode, asking to mount a scratch through vmtape, rmsmastr changed the

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Alain Benveniste
Les, You are referring to the z/VM530 documentation, aren't you ? With or without target parameter in the MOUNT cmd, the targetcat is not changed under z/VM440 when asking for a scratch in P2P. Did the test with z/VM530, no change. This hardware situation is a major regression. We could not

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Stephen Frazier
It might help if you included the error message. :) Gentry, Stephen wrote: Rob do you know what might be causing the errors below? -- Stephen Frazier Information Technology Unit Oklahoma Department of Corrections 3400 Martin Luther King Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298 Tel.: (405)

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Imler, Steven J
] On Behalf Of Les Geer (607-429-3580) Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 03:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment I suppose you would be aware of our peer-to-peer problem. When we got a 2nd 3494 in 2004, we decided to make them talk

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Alain Benveniste
Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Les Geer (607-429-3580) Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 03:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment I suppose you would be aware of our peer-to-peer problem. When we got a 2nd 3494 in 2004

Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-24 Thread Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)
We are running zVM 5.2 and currently still have manual 3490 tape drives. We may soon be getting an IBM DS8300 (shared with zOS) with TS1120 virtual tape. We have 5 VM systems with separate VMTAPE catalogs. They currently do not have any native physical tape drives planned for the VM systems. We

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-24 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Someone there may be getting confused. The IBM DS8300 is a virtual tape system. It can work standalone as a disk based VTS or, in conjunction with the robotics side to make it a tape based VTS system (with a very large disk cache). Then, there is the IBM TS1120. These are real tape drives

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-24 Thread Imler, Steven J
, IT) Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 02:42 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment We are running zVM 5.2 and currently still have manual 3490 tape drives. We may soon be getting an IBM DS8300 (shared with zOS

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-24 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
, Ann (ISD, IT) Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 2:42 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment We are running zVM 5.2 and currently still have manual 3490 tape drives. We may soon be getting an IBM DS8300 (shared with zOS) with TS1120 virtual tape. We

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-24 Thread Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)
Of Romanowski, John (OFT) Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:17 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment We do DDR's and SPXTAPE every day to virtual (VTS) tapes. Treat them like physical tapes. SPXTAPE's for DR - same as using physical tapes

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-24 Thread Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)
: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment Someone there may be getting confused. The IBM DS8300 is a virtual tape system. It can work standalone as a disk based VTS or, in conjunction with the robotics side to make

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-24 Thread Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)
, 2008 3:16 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment Hi Ann, When you say VMTAPE ... I assume you mean CA's VM:Tape product. If this is the case, just call CA's VM Customer Support or open an issue yourself for VM:Tape via CASupport so we can get

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-24 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
, March 24, 2008 14:56 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment It's probably me that is confused. I have been told VM will have virtual tape but no native tape. They also have used the term 'backend tape'. I obviously have more to learn

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-24 Thread Tom Duerbusch
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment Someone there may be getting confused. The IBM DS8300 is a virtual tape system. It can work standalone as a disk based VTS or, in conjunction with the robotics side to make it a tape based VTS system (with a very large disk

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-24 Thread Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)
24, 2008 6:06 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment Ann, You shouldn't have any trouble using virtual tape with VM or VM:Tape. We use it here, primarily for VM:Backup and VM:Spool. VM:Spool uses SPXTAPE under the covers. I'm sure DDR will work

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-24 Thread Stephen Frazier
Have you considered how you will get data from the local VTS to the remote VTS? Smith, Ann (ISD, IT) wrote: Thanks. I was hoping to VMTAPE mount the maintenance tapes to the other VM systems as FOREIGN tapes. And yes, there will be a VTS at the remote DR site. -- Stephen Frazier Information