Copying spool without SPXTAPE

2010-05-27 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
environment is. We did build on 5.4 system on the z9. The one thing we do not have connectivity to at this time is Tape Drives. So we cannot use SPXTAPE to dump the z/VM 5.4 spool, we only care about the NSS and other system stuff, to a tape. To this end can you layout the steps I would take

Re: Copying spool without SPXTAPE

2010-05-27 Thread Kris Buelens
to the DS8100 where our z/VM z/Linux environment is. We did build on 5.4 system on the z9. The one thing we do not have connectivity to at this time is Tape Drives. So we cannot use SPXTAPE to dump the z/VM 5.4 spool, we only care about the NSS and other system stuff, to a tape. To this end

Re: Copying spool without SPXTAPE

2010-05-27 Thread clifford jackson
Terry, do you want to backup all your rdr, Pun, Spool and, NSS or just your NSS.? Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:04:01 -0400 From: terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov Subject: Copying spool without SPXTAPE To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Hi I am working on migrating my z/VM 5.3 systems

Re: Copying spool without SPXTAPE

2010-05-27 Thread Brian Nielsen
This doesn't answer the SPXTAPE question directly, but since you are migrating to 5.4 most, if not all, of your NSS's will be built as part of the migration. You probably don't need to copy the 5.3 versions unless you really need them. That said, it has been mentioned on the list several

Re: Copying spool without SPXTAPE

2010-05-27 Thread Schuh, Richard
Do you have VSSI's VTAPE? If so, you can SPXTAPE DUMP to a VTAPE. DCSSDUMP and DCSSRSAV that dump and restore using disk cannot handle the NSSes that are IPLable. They could be used for the other SDFs and ordinary spool files. Regards, Richard Schuh From

Re: Copying spool without SPXTAPE

2010-05-27 Thread Ron Schmiedge
SPXTAPE to dump the z/VM 5.4 spool, we only care about the NSS and other system stuff, to a tape. To this end can you layout the steps I would take to copy the spool DASD to DASD without the use of SPXTAPE. I am trying to get at least one tape drive but if I can’t I would like to try another

Re: Copying spool without SPXTAPE

2010-05-27 Thread Mike Walter
and DCSSRSAVE utility programs would have worked for us. But user SPOOL files are a different matter. Fewer and fewer customers are using real tape drives. We can see the future... SPXTAPE does need a DISK option at some point. Now... if System z and z/VM would support USB drives as tape drives

Re: Copying spool without SPXTAPE

2010-05-27 Thread Berry van Sleeuwen
our z/VM z/Linux environment is. We did build on 5.4 system on the z9. The one thing we do not have connectivity to at this time is Tape Drives. So we cannot use SPXTAPE to dump the z/VM 5.4 spool, we only care about the NSS and other system stuff, to a tape. To this end can you

Re: Copying spool without SPXTAPE

2010-05-27 Thread dave
: Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Copying spool without SPXTAPE Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 16:51:57 -0500 I'm not Terry (gee, that sounds almost like a song title), but I can see his point. We migrated to z/VM 5.4 from z/VM 5.1 on April 11. There were

SPXTAPE

2010-03-02 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Hi If I use SPXTAPE to DUMP my spool volumes can I load them back to spool volumes with different names? Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191

Re: SPXTAPE

2010-03-02 Thread Mike Walter
Absolutely: YES! Just be 100% certain that you get the somewhat arcane SPXTAPE syntax exactly correct. Check the reader files that come back to be sure that you did not miss critical SDF's (i.e. IMG, NSS, UCR, TRF and NLS files that are stored on SPOOL) during the SPXTAPE DUMP. If you don't

Re: SPXTAPE

2010-03-02 Thread Kris Buelens
Yes, you restore spool files,not spool packs. 2010/3/2 Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov Hi If I use SPXTAPE to DUMP my spool volumes can I load them back to spool volumes with different names? *Thank You,* * * *Terry Martin* *Lockheed Martin - Citic

Re: SPXTAPE

2010-03-02 Thread John Franciscovich
If you don't get the syntax right on the SPXTAPE LOAD you can always to it again (being careful not to re-load files a second time, of course). You can use the NODUP operand on SPXTAPE LOAD to prevent loading of the same files more than once. John Franciscovich z/VM Development

SPXTAPE

2009-01-22 Thread Schuh, Richard
Am I correct in thinking that SPXTAPE DUMP is asynchronous? If so, how can an end of dump be recognized by the disconnected user issuing the SPXTAPE? Regards, Richard Schuh

Re: SPXTAPE

2009-01-22 Thread Scott Rohling
From HELP SPXTAPE: Response 3: When SPXTAPE DUMP, LOAD, or SCAN finishes processing, the following response is written in the command summary log and displayed on the screen. SPXTAPE DUMP COMMAND COMPLETED ON VDEV vdev(WITH ERRORS) LOAD ENDED vdev1-vdev2

Re: SPXTAPE

2009-01-22 Thread Peter . Webb
CP SPXTAPE DUMP 181 SDF ALL RUN MODE tape_mode do forever WAKEUP (IUCVMSG QUIET if rc ¬= 5 then leave

Re: SPXTAPE

2009-01-22 Thread Bruce Hayden
I used a different method than wakeup - a little polling: /* SPXTAPE runs in the background. We wait for it to get finished */ Do until spx='' | RC0 /* Wait for no status or interrupt*/ 'CP SLEEP 3 SEC ATTN' /* Wait for SPXTAPE to finish */ Parse value diag(8,'QUERY

Re: SPXTAPE

2009-01-22 Thread Hans Rempel
Another method is to setup a service machine running PROP. Operators then send a request to the service machine which runs the dump on behalf of the operator. Console messages can be trapped and tape can be detached. Operator continues working with userid without SPXTAPE messages except those you

Re: SPXTAPE

2009-01-22 Thread Schuh, Richard
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Hans Rempel Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 1:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SPXTAPE Another method is to setup a service machine running PROP. Operators then send a request to the service machine which runs the dump on behalf

Re: SPXTAPE

2009-01-22 Thread David Boyes
You have to capture the messages and parse for: SPXTAPE DUMP COMMAND COMPLETED ON VDEV vdev(WITH ERRORS) or the error variations listed in the help file. This is one of the major reasons why I want a SPXTAPE version that can be input or output to a PIPE.

Re: SPXTAPE

2009-01-22 Thread James Stracka (DHL US)
Or a WAIT option with return codes. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 3:18 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SPXTAPE You have to capture

Re: SPXTAPE

2009-01-22 Thread David Boyes
On 1/22/09 5:20 PM, James Stracka (DHL US) james.stra...@dhl.com wrote: Or a WAIT option with return codes. Except that doesn¹t get rid of the tape requirement...8-)

Re: SPXTAPE alternatives

2008-10-06 Thread Ronald van der Laan
Florian, For the DCSS type segments, you can use the MOVESEG command, but for the NSSes, (CMS and GCS) you will still need to regenerate them. You can find MOVESEG at http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?MOVESEG Ronald van der Laan

SPXTAPE alternatives

2008-10-06 Thread Florian Bilek
Dear all, Are there alternatives for SPXTAPE? I would like to copy the single pack spool with the saved segments from t he newly installed z/VM 5.4 to a spool area that consists of several disks. I would like to avoid regenerating those shared segments. Doing this, I would like to use

Re: SPXTAPE alternatives

2008-10-06 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Florian. You might want to try using the SFB utility that can backup and restore NSS as well as DCSS type segments. It can also process a number of other spool file types as well. You can download a copy here: http://www.vsoft-software.com/downloads.html Have a good one. Ronald van der

Re: SPXTAPE alternatives

2008-10-06 Thread Florian Bilek
Hi Dave, This is great! Thank you very much. It is exactly what I was looking for. BR Florian On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 08:00:06 -0500, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] w rote: Hi, Florian. You might want to try using the SFB utility that can backup and restore NSS as well as DCSS type segments.

Re: SPXTAPE alternatives

2008-10-06 Thread Schuh, Richard
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 4:22 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SPXTAPE alternatives Florian, For the DCSS type segments, you can use the MOVESEG command, but for the NSSes, (CMS and GCS) you will still need to regenerate them

SPXTAPE alternative....

2007-10-11 Thread Dave Jones
We have a new approach to the problem of backing up and restoring spool files that does not require SPXTAPE or need a real tape drive attached to the z/VM system. All spool file types (PRT, PUN, RDR, NSS, DCSS, IMG, NLS, UCR) with the exception of system trace and dump files are supported

Re: SPXTAPE alternatives

2007-03-07 Thread Jim Bohnsack
That would make a great addition to the VM Download site. There are real shortcomings to DCSSBKUP DCSSRSAV, namely losing the creation date and only being able to handle DCSS's, ie not NSS's and the other files you mentioned. Jim Chris Langford wrote: I have a program that will backup to

Re: SPXTAPE alternatives

2007-03-07 Thread achang
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: SPXTAPE alternatives That would make a great addition to the VM Download site. There are real shortcomings to DCSSBKUP DCSSRSAV, namely losing the creation date and only being able to handle DCSS's, ie not NSS's

Re: SPXTAPE alternatives

2007-03-07 Thread Jim Bohnsack
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: SPXTAPE alternatives That would make a great addition to the VM Download site. There are real shortcomings to DCSSBKUP DCSSRSAV, namely losing the creation date and only being able to handle DCSS's, ie not NSS's and the other files you mentioned. Jim Chris

Re: SPXTAPE alternatives

2007-03-07 Thread Thomas Kern
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Re: SPXTAPE alternatives

2007-03-07 Thread achang
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Re: SPXTAPE alternatives

2007-03-06 Thread Kris Buelens
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] SPXTAPE alternatives I have a z/VM 5.1 system used to host linux guests. I need to move all the volumes from one ESS to a new ESS (F20 to 800 if it makes a difference). I note that the correct way to move the spool and nss/dcss is via SPXTAPE -- can this be used to write

Re: SPXTAPE alternatives

2007-03-06 Thread RPN01
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 10:09:01 +0200 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SPXTAPE alternatives Saved segments can be copied too with DCSSBKUP DCSSRSAV. The problem(?) is that you before a DCSSRSAV, one must issue a DEFSEG with the appropriate values. CMS and GCS must be rebuilt SAMPNSS CMS#IPL

Re: SPXTAPE alternatives

2007-03-06 Thread Chris Langford
mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] SPXTAPE alternatives I have a z/VM 5.1 system used to host linux guests. I need to move all the volumes from one ESS to a new ESS (F20 to 800 if it makes a difference). I note that the correct way to move the spool and nss/dcss is via

SPXTAPE alternatives

2007-03-05 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
I have a z/VM 5.1 system used to host linux guests. I need to move all the volumes from one ESS to a new ESS (F20 to 800 if it makes a difference). I note that the correct way to move the spool and nss/dcss is via SPXTAPE -- can this be used to write to dasd as I have no tape drives (or volumes

Re: SPXTAPE alternatives

2007-03-05 Thread David Boyes
I note that the correct way to move the spool and nss/dcss is via SPXTAPE -- can this be used to write to dasd as I have no tape drives (or volumes) assigned to the VM LPAR ? SPXTAPE only understands tapes, AFAIK. It'd be nice if it allowed you to connect a pipe to a CP system service

Re: SPXTAPE alternatives

2007-03-05 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
Whitteridge Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 13:40 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] SPXTAPE alternatives I have a z/VM 5.1 system used to host linux guests. I need to move all the volumes from one ESS to a new ESS (F20 to 800 if it makes a difference). I note that the correct way to move

Re: Problem moving spool files from z/vm 3.1 to z/vm 5.2 using spxtape

2006-07-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We just migrated from 4.4 to 5.2 RSU 0601 and we saw a similar condition. The spool filled up prematurely while migrating 50,000 spool files to 5.2 using SPXTAPE. The spool area completely filled, and when we purged out all the visible spool files, not SDFs, utilization still showed 17%. When we

Re: SPXTape standard labels?

2006-03-16 Thread Nick Laflamme
) and gives the drive (and tape) to the first SVM, and the SVM performs the SPXTAPE DUMP and then logs off. The symptom is, for at least two straight nights, the volume-validation SVM has complained that it's not the right tape, and a manual check shows, there's no volume label on the tape