Re: Spool Area Full

2007-05-04 Thread James M
Now I must put all this theory to work. (my heart's thumping) I've been ordered to add more spool to a critical second level guest because of a rscs problem I reported in a new message today. Before I do it I want to double check to make sure I've got everything right. (It's been years since I

Re: Spool Area Full

2007-05-04 Thread Kris Buelens
It seems all right for the spool Ough, but what do I see? link * cf1 cf1 mw You should never link in MW mode if you like the data on a CMS minidisk, never, never, never (or almost never). So, change that into link * cf1 cf1 m of link * cf1 cf1 mr The advantage of linking MR is that you

Re: Spool Area Full

2007-05-04 Thread Mike Walter
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Spool Area Full Now I must put all this theory to work. (my heart's thumping) I've been ordered to add more spool to a critical second level guest because of a rscs problem I reported in a new message today. Before I do it I want

Re: Spool Area Full

2007-05-04 Thread Paul B. Nieman
11:01 AM Subject: Re: Spool Area Full snip 2nd level steps on the first level system I must.. update direct entry for 2nd level guest adding dedicate cuu I don't believe I need to update 1st level system config for dedicated disks - right? Did I miss anything - any gotchas

Re: Spool Area Full

2007-05-04 Thread George Haddad
Rich Greenberg wrote: On: Fri, May 04, 2007 at 11:59:16AM -0400,James M Wrote: } Ok will do. thanks } another question.. } Because I'm paranoid and have no idea what type of backup the vm guy has on } this system I've decided to ddr the two cpowned volumes to a backup disk } defore adding the

Re: Spool Area Full

2007-05-04 Thread Mike Walter
respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Spool Area Full I thought of that already. I ran spxtape dump. Good idea about the parm disks. should i get the info from cpload or user direct or both? On 5/4/07, Mike Walter

Re: Spool Area Full

2007-05-04 Thread James M
by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 05/04/2007 11:46 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Spool Area Full I thought of that already. I ran spxtape dump. Good idea about the parm disks. should

Re: Spool Area Full

2007-05-04 Thread Mike Walter
Thanks for the confirmation that you've completed the task. It's not all that often that those offering guidance on the list actually hear back when the task at hand is done. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the

Re: Spool Area Full

2007-05-04 Thread Ivica Brodaric
James, Kris and others already covered it, but I'll stress it once more: get into the habit of always using MR instead of MW. Then if you realy need MW, you will stop and think. And think again. I agree with George re backing up CF1. Always backup CF1 that has been tested with IPL onto CF2

Spool Area Full

2007-04-30 Thread James M
z/VM 5.2 I'm backing up the vm sys prog and sure enough - bing - a problem immediately. Problem solved but I have a couple of questions. adding a new spool full volume steps - is this correct.. att cuu * as vdev cpfmta vdev label vmspxx done... format done.. allocate spol 0-end done... end Once

Re: Spool Area Full

2007-04-30 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
*/ Some people might do SPOL 1-end but 0-end is OK -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James M Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:52 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Spool Area Full z/VM 5.2

Re: Spool Area Full

2007-04-30 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 4/30/07, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Followup question - is there a convenient way to migrate spool files from that volume without cold starting? Nope. Once CP has put spool files there, the only way to get it free is through natural death of spool files living there. So in practice,

Re: Spool Area Full

2007-04-30 Thread Rob van der Heij
From a class D userid the following quick and dirty plumbing might do: Too quick ;-) ... repeat for PRT (and maybe PUN) when needed. Rob

Re: Spool Area Full

2007-04-30 Thread Kris Buelens
Murphy's law dictates a small change in the order of things. With the order you propose there is a time window where the SYSTEM CONFIG does not know the new spool volume, but CP uses it for new spool files. If CP goes down in that window, all spool files with some parts of the new volume will

Re: Spool Area Full

2007-04-30 Thread James M
Didn't work properly pipe cp q rdr exp|locate 77.4,K,|cons FPLPAT112E Excessive options .4,K, FPLSCA003I ... Issued from stage 2 of pipeline 1 FPLSCA001I ... Running locate 77.4,K, ...is there not a rexx repository similar to cpan or pear? -James On 4/30/07, Rob van der Heij [EMAIL

Re: Spool Area Full

2007-04-30 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 4/30/07, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FPLPAT112E Excessive options .4,K, I'd say something happened to the stage separator (vertical bar) while it transferred from your inbasket to the 3270 session. If you cannot find the right character, replace them by ! and using pipe (stagesep !)

Re: Spool Area Full

2007-04-30 Thread George Haddad
David Boyes wrote: Couple of comments: While no longer absolutely necessary, it's good habit to always allocate cyl 0 as PERM, and then do whatever else you need to do. The requirement to do this went away a while ago, but it's just good practice as it reinforces that cyl 0 is something that

Re: Spool Area Full

2007-04-30 Thread Mike Walter
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Spool Area Full David Boyes wrote: Couple of comments: While no longer absolutely necessary, it's good habit to always allocate cyl 0 as PERM, and then do whatever else you need to do. The requirement to do this went away a while

Re: Spool Area Full

2007-04-30 Thread David Boyes
And I extoll the value of going in the opposite direction: reserving SLOTs at the very top of the CP_OWNED list for more than enough SPOOL volumes.   It's a viable approach. The only concern I'd raise is that no matter how many slots you reserve, the probability of hitting the end of that

Re: Spool Area Full

2007-04-30 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 04/30/2007 at 11:38 EST, Mike Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Dirty Harry said: Go ahead punk, make my day!. To put a fine point on it (ouch!): The slot number is encoded in the data structures CP uses to find and read spool files. It's an index into the CP-owned list. Once

Re: Spool Area Full

2007-04-30 Thread Schuh, Richard
Bit was never intuitive. But performance people never are. :-) Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 10:25 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Spool Area

Re: Spool Area Full

2007-04-30 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
To put a fine point on it (ouch!): The slot number is encoded in the data structures CP uses to find and read spool files. It's an index into the CP-owned list. Once spool files are created on a spool volume, don't change the slot number. Just to be sure Are spool files the ONLY

Re: Spool Area Full

2007-04-30 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 04/30/2007 at 10:51 ZE2, Shimon Lebowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to be sure Are spool files the ONLY things that depend on position in the CP OWNED list? Technically, paging space, but that data doesn't persist across IPLs so the order of paging volumes isn't important.

Re: Spool Area Full

2007-04-30 Thread John Franciscovich
Spool is the only thing you could mess up. And remember that system data files are saved in spool space, so included with spool (and the potential to be messed up) are NSS, DCSS, IMG, UCR, NLS, and TRF files. John Franciscovich z/VM Development

Re: Spool Area Full

2007-04-30 Thread Schuh, Richard
Do not forget to CP START the device. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stracka, James (GTI) Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:59 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Spool Area Full