Mike Walter wrote:
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For that matter, z/VM Version 6.1? What happened to Version 6.0? Doesn't
everyone know that odd-numbered versions are considered unlucky?
Can't have Version 6 Release 0 ... ya know?
...phsiii
If I remember the story correctly, you won't see a version such as 6.0,
because in IBM wisdom, this would imply that there would be following
releases (due to the decimal). Now why it's ok to have 6.1, and why that
doesn't carry the same implication, I don't know.
--
Robert P. Nix Mayo
IBM's use of V6.1 is shorthand for Version 6 Release 1. The first release
of each version is necessarily Release 1. What IBM avoids (IIRC) is
*Version* 1, as that implies a future version, presumably with substantial
upgrades.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:35 AM, RPN01 nix.rob...@mayo.edu wrote:
Ethan Lanz wrote:
The first release of each version is necessarily Release 1.
To people who learned programming from Rexx.
To those of us who use assembler, Forth, C, Java, it would be Release 0 :)
--
Jack J. Woehr# I run for public office from time to time. It's like
Um - z/OS V1 R 1-10 to this point.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Ethan Lanz llel...@gmail.com wrote:
IBM's use of V6.1 is shorthand for Version 6 Release 1. The first release
of each version is necessarily Release 1. What IBM avoids (IIRC) is
*Version* 1, as that implies a future
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Ethan Lanz wrote:
The first release of each version is necessarily Release 1.
To people who learned programming from Rexx.
To those of us who use
Schuh, Richard wrote:
Only if you are counting bits, bytes, words, etc., and then only if it is an
offset you are counting. Who thought of using offset instead of ordinal
numbers, anyway?
The Almighty started on the zero'th day. After he did his work, the
earth was without form and void,
Dearest colleagues:
The ongoing discussion has, I think, served to prove what I have
believed all along: That we are, each and every one of us,
exceptionally clever, witty, well-read and profoundly insightful
individuals. If you will forgive the interruption, may I humbly suggest
that this
z/OS being the current
poster
child
I can just see the rain-drenched vista of the Poughkeepsie IBM plant in the
poster with a soaking wet z10 sitting on the lawn out front, with the word
Give. in a big white square at the bottom of the poster.
-- db
At which point it was released as Day 1! :)
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Jack Woehr j...@well.com wrote:
Schuh, Richard wrote:
Only if you are counting bits, bytes, words, etc., and then only if it is
an offset you are counting. Who thought of using offset instead of ordinal
numbers,
Ethan Lanz wrote:
At which point it was released as Day 1! :)
You win!
--
Jack J. Woehr# I run for public office from time to time. It's like
http://www.well.com/~jax # working out at the gym, you sweat a lot, don't get
http://www.softwoehr.com # anywhere, and you fall asleep
Ladies, gentlemen: Enough, please. In the immortal words of my father
during long family road trips, please don't make me have to pull this
car over to the side of the road!
Pretty please?
-dan.
Found this little link in my weekly announcement summary :
http://www.ibm.com/vrm/newsletter_10576_5350_121006_email_DYN_1IN/fremt106679968
Basically, it's z/VM 6.1.. Don't know if anyone had said anything about
it previously..
Anyway.. the most striking feature I see in this literature is
6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
On Tuesday, 07/07/2009 at 02:25 EDT, Ivan Warren i...@vmfacility.fr
wrote:
Found this little link in my weekly announcement summary :
http://www.ibm.com/vrm/newsletter_10576_5350_121006_email_DYN_1IN/fremt106679968
Basically, it's z/VM 6.1.. Don't know if anyone
Ivan Warren wrote:
Found this little link in my weekly announcement summary :
http://www.ibm.com/vrm/newsletter_10576_5350_121006_email_DYN_1IN/fremt106679968
Basically, it's z/VM 6.1.. Don't know if anyone had said anything
about it previously..
Anyway.. the most striking feature I see
On Tuesday, 07/07/2009 at 02:25 EDT, Ivan Warren i...@vmfacility.fr
wrote:
Found this little link in my weekly announcement summary :
http://www.ibm.com/vrm/newsletter_10576_5350_121006_email_DYN_1IN/fremt106679968
Basically, it's z/VM 6.1.. Don't know if anyone had said anything about
Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf
Of Rich Smrcina
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Ivan Warren wrote:
Found this little link in my weekly announcement summary :
http://www.ibm.com/vrm
I hope that Linux is the first, not the only, guest O/S that can be supported
by Guest Relocation.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
* *z/VM Live Guest Relocation*
IBM intends to further strengthen single system image support by
providing live guest relocation. This is planned
.
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Behalf Of Marcy Cortes
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Those are Statements of Direction, not in 6.1.
But good stuff!!! Hurry
/
William D Carroll william.d.carr...@jpmchase.com
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Also, Did
Correct.
Hodge, Robert L wrote:
I interpret the following to say that V6.1 will only run on a z10.
Correct/Incorrect?
This release implements a new Architecture Level Set (ALS) available
only on the IBM System z10 Enterprise Class server and System z10
Business Class server and future
Cortes
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Those are Statements of Direction, not in 6.1.
But good stuff!!! Hurry up and bring on 6.2! (if that is what they are
in!).
Marcy
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Is this GDPS/VM???
Alan Altmark wrote:
On Tuesday, 07/07/2009 at 02:25 EDT, Ivan Warren i...@vmfacility.fr
wrote:
Found this little link in my weekly announcement summary :
http://www.ibm.com/vrm/newsletter_10576_5350_121006_email_DYN_1IN/fremt106679968
I get the US IBM Announcements and this was in it today.
http://www.ibm.com/vrm/newsletter_10577_5037_121009_email_DYN_1IN/gvuhb33457147
Jim
William D Carroll wrote:
Also, Did you catch this part of the announcement=0D=0AIBM Europe, Middle=
East, and Africa Marketing Announcement
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Is this GDPS/VM???
On Tuesday, 07/07/2009 at 12:27 EDT, Mr. Woofer mrwoo...@swbell.net
wrote:
Is this GDPS/VM???
Not really, no. GDPS is a collection of Services offerings that create an
automated recovery HA/DR environment for System z (site failover, I/O
failover, ...) with special focus on z/OS. GDPS
Or later .. is it time for z11 yet??
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Correct.
Hodge, Robert L
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Or later .. is it time for z11 yet??
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I hope that Linux is the first, not the only, guest O/S that can be
supported by Guest Relocation.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
* *z/VM Live
On 7/7/2009 at 3:31 PM, russell.gendr...@custserv.com wrote:
Well we have been trying to set this up under z/VM 5.4 with suse10 sp 2
on a layer 2 switch with no luck. So I guess we should hold off until
6.1 is available :-)
I doubt this has anything to do with the version of z/VM you're
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If you mean Is a z/VM Single System Image similar to a z/OS SYSPLEX?
then I would answer Sort of. It will be a tightly-coupled cluster of
z/VM systems
Wouldn't it be zB ? :)
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z11? And you call yourself a __SYSPROG__
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On 7/7/2009 at 3:31 PM, russell.gendr...@custserv.com wrote:
Well we have been trying to set this up under z/VM 5.4 with suse10 sp
2
on a layer 2 switch with no luck. So I guess we should hold off until
6.1 is available
In the days of O/S 360, the even numbered releases were the bad ones. Was it
perhaps because of the team alignments? We went from O/S MFT R15 to R17 and
then to R21 and had very little trouble with any of them. On the other hand,
the people I knew who installed R16 and R20 had all sorts of
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z11? And you call yourself a __SYSPROG__!!?
Wouldn't the next model be a zA? ;-)
Oh, that's right... there are probably rooms full of IBM
On Tuesday, 07/07/2009 at 03:33 EDT, russell.gendr...@custserv.com wrote:
Well we have been trying to set this up under z/VM 5.4 with suse10 sp 2
on a layer 2 switch with no luck. So I guess we should hold off until
6.1 is available :-)
Anyone having any luck with the ability to move Linux
On 7/7/2009 at 4:12 PM, russell.gendr...@custserv.com wrote:
Already have, just hoping someone may have this working; or are we
trying to do something that really has not been done or proven in a
production business environment.
I've done it a number of times on my z/VM guest, and never saw
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Mike,
zA would come after z9, not z10
Mike Walter wrote:
After a z10, it would always be a z11 if IBM suddenly switched over to
binary, right? Then a z100, etc...
Let's try to make sense of the marketroids branding system..
1st, let's look at the facts : In chronological order, and excluding the
'BC' class systems (z800,
After a z10, it would always be a z11 if IBM suddenly switched over to
binary, right? Then a z100, etc...
Well, actually, assuming any reasonably rational base, 11 would always follow
10. The question gets interesting when you reach n symbols in a single position
(assuming zero as minimum).
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