Re: [IceHorses] Video of Andi's Lesson

2008-03-31 Thread Judy Ryder
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHbO8pteqyw His mane and forelock are gorgeous! Good job with the video; Sharon did a nice job. Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Stikla

2008-03-31 Thread Judy Ryder
>> Dawn, is that Sparkle that you have now? > > I cannot find any previous message on the list about Sparkle but she > is Bibi's sister as I have Stella, her mom. Would love to see a photo > of her. Sorry, Ann, that should have gone to the gaitedhorse list. Dawn now owns Sparkle, who is in foal

[IceHorses] Video of Andi's Lesson

2008-03-31 Thread susan cooper
Here is a video of Andi's desentising lesson with Sharon. Going down the trail on a loose rein with a quiet seat doesn't do anything about teaching him about the bit. I've also been way too quiet to the point where sudden movements from the saddle bother him. Andi hasn't been ridden in 4 weeks s

Re: [IceHorses] A must have for Janice

2008-03-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>I found a pic! here is teev in his harness plume. What a handsome guy!! >Janice -- Oh, darn! Drifa wants one now that she has seen how flashy Teev looks in his. I went to that website but they don't have any more for sale. Penny

Re: [IceHorses] My lesson on Andi

2008-03-31 Thread Judy Ryder
> horse moves. Plus, the "emergency" dismount will help > desensitize Andi to me "dropping" quickly and suddenly > to the ground. I got some videos of Sharon on Andi, I > will have to download them and put them together later. Thanks for the report, Susan! Looking forward to the videos! Jud

Re: [IceHorses] Shots-Vaccines

2008-03-31 Thread Skye and Sally ~Fire Island
--- Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As for horse vaccines, why would you not do it, what are your > reasons? Well, I guess I would give you some background. First Sally is a liscened Naturopathic Physician, graduated from Bastyr university in 1999. If you have ever been to a Na

Re: [IceHorses] Hay Shortage

2008-03-31 Thread snowpony
Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=3971406n?source=search_video > > Oh my gosh . . . Isn't that sad? You could just tell this woman's whole life was those horses. We didn't have a drought, but we had a dry spell last year

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Teevs embarrassment

2008-03-31 Thread snowpony
Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > . . . It must be her lack of foundation undergarments because i KNOW > there's nothin wrong with ME."< SNORT! Oh Janice. . . sometimes I think I need to let Jay Leno know about you. And as the owner of a "bouncefree" bra (that creates cleav

Re: [IceHorses] Improve your horses well being

2008-03-31 Thread Nancy Sturm
I wish someone around here would be a TTouch/TTeam instructor. I've > fanasized of going thru the training and becoming an > instructor/trainer. Go for it Anna. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Mic / Riding Style

2008-03-31 Thread snowpony
How about just "manipulated style"?? Remember, I'm a K.I.S.S. formula girl at heart. : ) I must confess, I tend to think of the riding, tack, etc. we see now in the Icelandic showring and elsewhere as German-influenced riding.I say this because the changes in desireable gait, lift, tack,

Re: [IceHorses] Improve your horses well being

2008-03-31 Thread Anna Hopkins
> > >>>I have read this book many times over the last year and I'm implementing > many of Linda's techniques into my routines. Now I have a very close > relationship to my horse. I thought I wanted to share with you this > great book and ask is anyone else knows about it and practicing it. Let > me

Re: [IceHorses] Rainy Sat Morning

2008-03-31 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Laree Shulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Gang" was curled up with me - all that was missing was the horses. > Players - Sam the cat, Simon the Dobe and Sadie the English Cocker > > What a cute bunch! V

[IceHorses] My lesson on Andi

2008-03-31 Thread susan cooper
I finally got around to taking a lesson on Andi today from my instructor/neighbor/friend who is an eventer. It made me realize that I ride Andi too quiet. He needs a lot of desensitization! I have been way too quiet, and Sharon rode him like a drunk untill he was OK with it. She also started hi

Re: [IceHorses] Improve your horses well being

2008-03-31 Thread susan cooper
>>the most rewarding aspect of teaching TTouch is the relationship that people gain, and often regain, with their animals. I think there are some people on this list that do some TTouch, << TTouch combined with clicker training saved my relationship with my mare! Whisper loves her TTouches!! S

Re: [IceHorses] comments on my video

2008-03-31 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I posted a video I called "biglick hocks" on youtube after the Dixie > Plantation horse show, and it has over 1500 views now and some > comments. You can see it here: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aObdQ20cOFw#GU5U2s

RE: [IceHorses] A must have for Janice

2008-03-31 Thread Cherie Mascis
Lil thinks Teev is hot! Cherie Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8 - Release Date: 3/20/2008 12:00 AM

Re: [IceHorses] Teevs embarrassment

2008-03-31 Thread Jacki Edens
Janice someday you need to bring that dashing boy up here to Maryland and ride with us... we laugh all the time and you and Teev would fit right in us laughing and the horses just rolling their eyes! Jacki

[IceHorses] Re: Teevs embarrassment

2008-03-31 Thread Janice McDonald
or maybe he is thinking "I know theres gotta be a brewski in that cooler under the tree..." Janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

[IceHorses] Re: Teevs embarrassment

2008-03-31 Thread Janice McDonald
or maybe he is muttering... "does she not KNOW you cant mix evening with casual wear??!? Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

[IceHorses] Re: Teevs embarrassment

2008-03-31 Thread Janice McDonald
or maybe : "Dere Baby Jesus, please help her understand about propriety and dignity, that even in the woods, in the middle of nowhere, there are standards of decency... place it upon her heart that she needs to look into maidenform..." Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

[IceHorses] Re: Teevs embarrassment

2008-03-31 Thread Janice McDonald
or maybe he was thinking "when I lived in california, nobody even noticed, heads did not even turn, but here, for some reason, everyone points at me and laughs when we go by on the trail ride. It must be her lack of foundation undergarments because i KNOW there's nothing wrong with ME." Janice --

[IceHorses] Re: Teevs embarrassment

2008-03-31 Thread Janice McDonald
but really he is thinking "sigh. This is so gay..." Janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

[IceHorses] Re: Teevs embarrassment

2008-03-31 Thread Janice McDonald
no no, his ears are back cause he is thinking "I do everything she tells me to do, I listen to all her cues, but every time I walk, the mystery tap on the withers, every step, its maddening , maddening i tell you!" Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

[IceHorses] Re: Teevs embarrassment

2008-03-31 Thread Janice McDonald
his ears are back like "what is that SOUND, every time I take a step, a little whomp noise, I am so confuse, somebody please help me." Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

[IceHorses] Re: Teevs embarrassment

2008-03-31 Thread Janice McDonald
i had to put salve on his bruised withers after our ride., Janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] Improve your horses well being

2008-03-31 Thread Janice McDonald
> > Where do you live? > This is one of Linda's favorite books and now it is out of print. The new > book the Ultimate Horse Training and Behavior book covers everything that > was in the Well-Being book so they won't reprint. Glad you are enjoying the > work. For me the most rewarding aspect of

Re: [IceHorses] A must have for Janice

2008-03-31 Thread Janice McDonald
yes thats them Anna, thanks, horsefeathers, they have an ebay store. I need a red white and blue one and a white one with pearls. Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] A must have for Janice

2008-03-31 Thread Anna Hopkins
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:18 AM, susan cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OH, OH Whisper needs a pink one!! Tell me if > you see one! > Here's the ebay address from the original e-mail http://tinyurl.com/3a38dq -- Anna Southern Ohio

RE: [IceHorses] Improve your horses well being

2008-03-31 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Sandy, >>>I have read this book many times over the last year and I'm implementing many of Linda's techniques into my routines. Now I have a very close relationship to my horse. I thought I wanted to share with you this great book and ask is anyone else knows about it and practicing it. Let me

Re: [IceHorses] HELP breeders!

2008-03-31 Thread Janice McDonald
On 3/30/08, Anneliese Virro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mar 6, 2008, at 6:01 AM, Janice McDonald wrote: > > thank you annaleise, you are such a good caring person... and smart too! The mare never accepted the baby and my friend bottlefed. I think he is eating now and the mare is being nicer

[IceHorses] mule guy 2

2008-03-31 Thread Janice McDonald
on RFDTV the mule guy I saw talked about how a snaffle bit should be loose, so the horse can pick it up and seat it correctly. He demonstrated this. He put the headstall on his mule and it hung too low and then the mule picked it up and seated it. He also said if the bit is loose and the horse c

Re: [IceHorses] Natural Gaits and Icelandic-style Trainers

2008-03-31 Thread Laree Shulman
> But suppose a new person shows up on the list, as happens all the time. How > would they know when we say, "show style riding" that we aren't talking > about western pleasure riding, or hunt-seat riding, low level dressage, or a > more natural type of gaited horse showing? I think that since we

[IceHorses] Hay Shortage

2008-03-31 Thread Judy Ryder
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=3971406n?source=search_video Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com

RE: [IceHorses] Natural Gaits and Icelandic-style Trainers

2008-03-31 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> I like the "show style" better. "Five-gaited style" makes you think everything is ok when you ride them four-gaited but it goes bad when you start riding them five-gaited. And I don't think forcing the gait is the only problem with this style of riding. But suppose a new person shows up on th

Re: [IceHorses] Natural Gaits and Icelandic-style Trainers

2008-03-31 Thread pyramid
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 09:18:13PM +0300, Skise wrote: > I like the "show style" better. "Five-gaited style" makes you think > everything is ok when you ride them four-gaited but it goes bad when you > start riding them five-gaited. And I don't think forcing the gait is the only > problem with t

[IceHorses] Dagur for sale

2008-03-31 Thread Lorraine
I still have Dagur for sale if anyone is interested. I am asking $2800. He just needs constant work and I don't have the time. Scooter is good to go. Thanks. Lorraine OMG, Sweet deal for Yahoo! user

Re: [IceHorses] Gelding in AZ For Sale

2008-03-31 Thread Lorraine
> This is a 5 / 6 year old registered gelding, not yet > started for sale for $1,000. > Where in AZ. Lorraine No Cost - Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now. Sweet deal for Yahoo! users and

RE: [IceHorses] Natural Gaits and Icelandic-style Trainers

2008-03-31 Thread Skise
Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti: > How about "five-gaited style" or maybe better, "Forced-Gait Show Style > Riding." I like the "show style" better. "Five-gaited style" makes you think everything is ok when you ride them four-gaited but it goes bad when you start riding them five-

Re: [IceHorses] Mic / Riding Style

2008-03-31 Thread Mic Rushen
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:10:52 -0700, you wrote: >Mic, when we tried to stop using the word "traditional" and switch to >something else, you had a suggestion (and it may have been a joke, but) do >you remember what that suggestion was? German Icelandic Traditional - GIT I think "show-style" is m

[IceHorses] Mic / Riding Style

2008-03-31 Thread Judy Ryder
Mic, when we tried to stop using the word "traditional" and switch to something else, you had a suggestion (and it may have been a joke, but) do you remember what that suggestion was? Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com

RE: [IceHorses] Natural Gaits and Icelandic-style Trainers

2008-03-31 Thread Karen Thomas
Good one, Anna. Calling it "Icelandic-style" has been one thing that has really put me off over the years. The people from Iceland are "Icelanders." I've never heard anyone call it "Icelander-style". The horses have the descriptive adjective "Icelandic" in their breed name. Unless we ch

Re: [IceHorses] Natural Gaits and Icelandic-style Trainers

2008-03-31 Thread pyramid
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 07:28:38AM -0500, Janice McDonald wrote: > > > Anyway, I think we need to come up with a different term other than > > > "traditional riding" when talking about what is currently done. > > > > I agree too. Could it be called "european style riding"? But that > would inclu

Re: [IceHorses] A must have for Janice

2008-03-31 Thread Janice McDonald
the place has an ebay store, you can go to ebay and search harness plumes, carriage plumes, I forget how they list it and they make them all colors and combinations of colors. You can buy a sequin "base" that velcros onto the headstall, and then interchange the plumes. They are really quite beauti

Re: [IceHorses] Stuck in ground driving

2008-03-31 Thread Janice McDonald
be careful with voice commands, give them ones you dont automatically use for other things... I trained Stonewall that when I say "step!" It means lift a paw in the air and "count", or wave at the air. Then when I bring a horse around to the mounting block I automatically without thinking, to get

Re: [IceHorses] Shots-Vaccines

2008-03-31 Thread Laree Shulman
> As for horse vaccines, why would you not do it, what are your reasons? Janice - I think there has been enough cases of death or sickness as a result of vaccines, that we need to be careful as to how often we administer shots and how many. I think at one point, vaccines were a miracle and we ju

RE: [IceHorses] Natural Gaits and Icelandic-style Trainers

2008-03-31 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Since this type of riding seems to stem from the show/evaluation world, I >>> would like to see that incorporated into the term. Maybe something like >>> 'show style riding/training'. I think "show style" is the key too. I don't like putting "German" or "European" in the description ei

Re: [IceHorses] Natural Gaits and Icelandic-style Trainers

2008-03-31 Thread Janice McDonald
Or maybe we can think of > something that would be descriptive or specific like TW people using > the term 'Big Lick' . I hate using the term 'Icelandic' in the > terminology. yes you could compare it to "bell boot" style riding but some might use bell boots for a good reason, boots that arent we

Re: [IceHorses] Icelandic mare on Dreamhorse/Companion for Svort

2008-03-31 Thread gemstonerotts
In a message dated 3/30/2008 9:12:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I was going to buy the bottom gelding last year before she got on him. The hauler was up there and said no he was too spooky. I was sorry l didn't buy him then. Now he is the same price and starte

RE: [IceHorses] Icelandic mare on Dreamhorse/Sarah's suggestions

2008-03-31 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Wow, thanks for doing all that research! Sadly I live in Maryland, so had dismissed those guys back when I first looked at them. Long way to ship a project horse that people expect you to pay for on top of the shipping cost. That's the truth. I think it's unfair for people to expect to fin

Re: [IceHorses] Shots-Vaccines

2008-03-31 Thread gemstonerotts
In a message dated 3/30/2008 9:12:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sadly animals do die from injections, I just had one of my pups die after I sold him. I put on the instructions NO Leptrosis shots Never ever. Well, they gave him this shot and he

Re: [IceHorses] Icelandic mare on Dreamhorse/Sarah's suggestions

2008-03-31 Thread sarah gibson
> Wow, thanks for doing all that research! Sadly I live in Maryland, so had > dismissed those guys back when I first looked at them. Yes, I was afraid of that! Looking at horses on dreamhorse is a favorite past time of mine - perhaps I could be a professional horse matchmaker :) Good luck - I a

Re: [IceHorses] A must have for Janice

2008-03-31 Thread susan cooper
--- Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Teev was so serious you know, very solemn and grumpy like a little man, with his yankee doodle DRAFT HORSE SIZED carriage plume... I didnt get a teeny one, i wanted to make sure people could see it!<< OH, OH Whisper needs a pink one!!

Re: [IceHorses] Beet Pulp cookies

2008-03-31 Thread susan cooper
--- Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > oh wow, i gotta try this. I guess you squeeze all > the water out of > the beet pulp? Is that a dumb question?? No, just put enough in to "fluff" it. Or, in other words, I put hot water and apple juice til you could just see it (not covered the

Re: [IceHorses] Shots-Vaccines

2008-03-31 Thread Janice McDonald
my daughter has an english bulldog she paid 2000 for. When I freaked out about the cost she said it cost that or more to provide vet care to the mother to deliver a litter. Has to be caesarian, no other way. Her 2000 dog has yeast in the creases and folds of her face and has to be constantly swi

Re: [IceHorses] Natural Gaits and Icelandic-style Trainers

2008-03-31 Thread Mic Rushen
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:01:45 -0400, you wrote: >Maybe >> something like 'show style riding/training' Good one, Anna. Calling it "Icelandic-style" has been one thing that has really put me off over the years. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen ---

RE: [IceHorses] Maggie off-topic

2008-03-31 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> She says retriever to me and I'm guessing 70 - 80 solid pounds when she's fully matured. Whatever she is, she looks like a doll She IS a doll. When you see her in person, you can see that she's not purebred anything, but my guess is that she's some mix mostly of the birddog/hound dog breeds

Re: [IceHorses] Natural Gaits and Icelandic-style Trainers

2008-03-31 Thread Laree Shulman
Maybe > something like 'show style riding/training'. Or maybe we can think of > something that would be descriptive or specific like TW people using > the term 'Big Lick' . I hate using the term 'Icelandic' in the > terminology. I'm sure that there are many native Icelandic people > that we ar

Re: [IceHorses] Natural Gaits and Icelandic-style Trainers

2008-03-31 Thread Anna Hopkins
> On 3/30/08, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On 30/03/2008, Renee Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Anyway, I think we need to come up with a different term other than > > > "traditional riding" when talking about what is currently done. > > > > > > I agree. > >

Re: [IceHorses] Icelandic mare on Dreamhorse/Companion for Svort

2008-03-31 Thread Nancy Sturm
> > And yet another X - I know that he has been discussed before. I love > this guy and if I could I would snatch him up: > http://dreamhorse.com/show_horse.php?form_horse_id=1192340 This one has the same sire as Tosca and probably the same Peruvian Paso grandmother. She's an awfully nice pony

Re: [IceHorses] Maggie off-topic

2008-03-31 Thread Laree Shulman
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess Maggie is close to 4 months old. She's finally losing her front > baby teeth. She's been with us almost 2 months now. She says retriever to me and I'm guessing 70 - 80 solid pounds when she's fully matured. Wh

Re: [IceHorses] Shots-Vaccines

2008-03-31 Thread Karen Thomas
It also brings up another question. The dog who died was a pug. I am going to try not to insult anyone too much - but - what are people thinking about when they deliberately breed dogs that are so malformed as to be almost non-functional? Pugs, because of the way they are

Re: [IceHorses] Gelding in AZ For Sale

2008-03-31 Thread Janice McDonald
On 3/31/08, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a 5 / 6 year old registered gelding, not yet started for sale for > $1,000. > > Not a rescue or a rehab. > > > Judy > http://iceryder.net > http://clickryder.com > what a cutie patootie, and what a deal for the right home (I hope I hope

[IceHorses] Re: [Blind in one eye Icelandic on Dreamhorse

2008-03-31 Thread Jacki Edens
Hey Janice, Thanks, that is the horse that they are asking $3500 for. Lives nearby in Virginia though... Jacki

Re: [IceHorses] Icelandic mare on Dreamhorse/Sarah's suggestions

2008-03-31 Thread Jacki Edens
Jacki I have forgotten where you are but I was perusing dreamhorse tonight and found all of these potentially wonderful companions: Hi Sarah, Wow, thanks for doing all that research! Sadly I live in Maryland, so had dismissed those guys back when I first looked at them. Long way to ship a proj

Re: [IceHorses] Damn Wind

2008-03-31 Thread Janice McDonald
On 3/30/08, Mic Rushen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 10:45:26 -0700, you wrote: > > >Arrrggg! I agree I'll ride in the snow, cold, etc > >but not in this wind. > > Good job you don't live here - a day with "only" a 40mph wind is a > quiet day... > > Mic > is that why they c

Re: [IceHorses] Maggie off-topic

2008-03-31 Thread Janice McDonald
she is beautiful! Definitely something spaniel-ish about the ears! Or almost bloodhound-ish! Does she bay? Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] Maggie off-topic

2008-03-31 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> She's a beautiful puppy. Maybe we should take guesses as to her mature >>> weight. I think she's going to be a biggish dog. Thanks. I think she's one of the prettiest mutts I've ever seen - we're SO happy we kept her, and SO happy she doesn't have any lasting effects from her neck injur

Re: [IceHorses] Rainy Sat Morning

2008-03-31 Thread Raven
what a cute bunch of fur babies. great toe warmers. <;p] Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all

[IceHorses] comments on my video

2008-03-31 Thread Janice McDonald
I posted a video I called "biglick hocks" on youtube after the Dixie Plantation horse show, and it has over 1500 views now and some comments. You can see it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aObdQ20cOFw#GU5U2spHI_4 and here are some comments. ironically one comment FOR biglick is from a bar

Re: [IceHorses] Natural Gaits and Icelandic-style Trainers

2008-03-31 Thread Janice McDonald
On 3/30/08, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 30/03/2008, Renee Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Anyway, I think we need to come up with a different term other than > > "traditional riding" when talking about what is currently done. > > > I agree. > > Wanda > I agree t

Re: [IceHorses] Stuck in ground driving

2008-03-31 Thread Renee Martin
>> When I was ready to move forward, Tyra already knew the commands walk and >> trot, so I just asked her to walk and it she stepped forward even one >> step, >> I clicked and went to her to reward, so she wouldn't turn around for it. > > > Renee - I have started several horses ground driving by

Re: [IceHorses] Stuck in ground driving

2008-03-31 Thread Laree Shulman
> When I was ready to move forward, Tyra already knew the commands walk and > trot, so I just asked her to walk and it she stepped forward even one step, > I clicked and went to her to reward, so she wouldn't turn around for it. Renee - I have started several horses ground driving by myself and t

RE: Re [Icehorses] Lilja says howdy!

2008-03-31 Thread Cherie Mascis
>If Teev does good in his sidepull, would he rather have the 1/2 bosal nose or >the Parelli type noseband you think?? Janice, The one that's most like a regular side-pull is the Enduro. That's the one Lil had on in the pic. The 1/2 bosal is like a gentle rope bosal and the reins tie under

Re: [IceHorses] Maggie off-topic

2008-03-31 Thread Nancy Sturm
> > I guess Maggie is close to 4 months old. She's finally losing her front > baby teeth. She's been with us almost 2 months now. She's a beautiful puppy. Maybe we should take guesses as to her mature weight. I think she's going to be a biggish dog. Nancy