Re: [IceHorses] jaspar incident

2008-05-30 Thread Mic Rushen
On Fri, 30 May 2008 22:10:00 -0300, you wrote: >They said this could be related to all this mystery weight loss and >> for me to take him off pellets Or alternatively soak the pellets before you feed them to him. Poor old Jasper! Glad he's ok now. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --

Re: [IceHorses] Starting Bitless and Bareback

2008-05-30 Thread snowpony
Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's my friend Heidi's pony being started bitless and bareback > (check out the last "ho-hum" photo :-)): > > http://horse84124.yuku.com/topic/10139 > > Judy THose are excellent pictures Judy of how a first mounting should be. : ) But where are t

[IceHorses] Hey Debbie -- track system question (was New pen added to shelter)

2008-05-30 Thread snowpony
We hope to get our track system in place this month. However, I am in a dilemma as to what to do about the grass that will be in the "aisles" of it. Like you, we plan on it being 15' to 20' wide with one loafing area in the shade being a bit wider/larger. We'd had one of the best

Re: [IceHorses] Black Bart

2008-05-30 Thread Karen Thomas
>>i cant believe that fence! When you go to a BLM mustang adoption FWIW too, the Corolla Wild Horses ("Bankers") aren't under the control of the BLM. They seem to be sort of under the control of the Fish and Wildlife Commission, and sort of under the control of Currituck County, NC.I'm

Re: [IceHorses] New pen added to shelter

2008-05-30 Thread Raven
WOW...Huginn and Dixie are packing their saddle bags, they want to live at your barn! HAHA! Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all

[IceHorses] What we are going to do....

2008-05-30 Thread pennyndrifa
Next week is the Western States Horse Expo in Sacramento. Drifa and I are going to be in Davis Lichman's demo - we are the ones who don't do gaits and David will show people how to get the gaits using us. So, I am studying up on gaits so I have some clue about what I will be doing. Yikes! I

[IceHorses] Starting Bitless and Bareback

2008-05-30 Thread Judy Ryder
Here's my friend Heidi's pony being started bitless and bareback (check out the last "ho-hum" photo :-)): http://horse84124.yuku.com/topic/10139 Judy

[IceHorses] what we've been doing...

2008-05-30 Thread pennyndrifa
A couple of weeks ago, Drifa and I drove up to Reno and spent a few days with Mark Berry (former Parelli instructor) and his family. I was there with a bunch of friends for a cow clinic. What a blast! The cattle make you (and your trusty pony)think a little differently than usual - because s

Re: [IceHorses] New pen added to shelter

2008-05-30 Thread Debbie K.
I would give them a few days and walk it to make sure the grass is gone before letting them out full time... I use a track system here, that they can be on 24/7 it keeps them MOVING and nibbling... but they eat the grass down so they can be on it all the time, however, I am starting a new track an

Re: [IceHorses] Daughter's wedding

2008-05-30 Thread Raven
ah...what a beautiful couple and romantic wedding!!! I so approve of the purple the theme. >;p] thank you so much for sharing the photos. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/ice

Re: [IceHorses] The Spot

2008-05-30 Thread Janice McDonald
On 5/30/08, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on the wild moor with the werewolves and baskervilles. > > > ... and the Brontes? I confess "the moor" conjures up romantic visions of > long vistas and tall waving grass. > > Nancy > yes and the hounds of the baskervilles were "out on the

Re: [IceHorses] jaspar incident

2008-05-30 Thread Janice McDonald
On 5/30/08, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Whew! Glad that worked out. Poor Jas. Poor Janice. > > Nancy > he is very froggy and happy now. we had a little rain squall blow through and broke the heat a little and maybe his spell released endorphins or something cause he seems even f

Re: [IceHorses] Daughter's wedding

2008-05-30 Thread Janice McDonald
oh laree that is so wonderful, i am so happy for you!! Next is grandkids and ponies for the grandkids What a fairy tale wedding and such a gorgeous place! Janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] Black Bart

2008-05-30 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Wow. He's really beautiful. One of the women we ride with just got a >>> couple of Kier Mustang mares. The one she rides is a real gem. She's >>> beautiful, sensible, smooth-gaited. Annette loves her so much her eyes >>> tear up when she talks about her. I believe the Kier registry is

Re: [IceHorses] My best vacation pictures.... and not even off topic

2008-05-30 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Wonderful pictures. I think I need a vacation. At the ocean. With >>> horses. I think this was my best vacation ever. We took the kayaks and went out on the sound, ate wonderful. wonderful dinners, enjoyed the sunsets - the typical beach type stuff...but I also got at least an hour or

Re: [IceHorses] New pen added to shelter

2008-05-30 Thread Nancy Sturm
Wow! Beautiful fence Virginia! Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Daughter's wedding

2008-05-30 Thread Wanda Lauscher
2008/5/30 Laree Shulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > My daughter was married last weekend and this is the link to some of > the pictures. Congratulations! Lovely pics. Wanda

Re: [IceHorses] O/T Sophie

2008-05-30 Thread Wanda Lauscher
2008/5/30 Anna Hopkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > She's a cutie. How big is she now? How old is she? She was 7 months on May 21. I would guess that she's about 6 lbs now. Wanda

Re: [IceHorses] Daughter's wedding

2008-05-30 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Laree Shulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My daughter was married last weekend and this is the link to some of > the pictures. How lovely! V

Re: [IceHorses] O/T Sophie

2008-05-30 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here are a couple of pics of Sophie after her bathlooking majestic... > What a doll! V

Re: [IceHorses] jaspar incident

2008-05-30 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > They said this could be related to all this mystery weight loss and > for me to take him off pellets and put him on a feed that doesnt > swell, like oats or seed mix feed and if he does it again they will > scope him.

[IceHorses] Worming

2008-05-30 Thread Virginia Tupper
I've been reading about using natural products opposed to chemicals -- very interesting reading. Also came across this page: http://ezinearticles.com/?To-Be-Dewormed-Or-Not-To-Be-Dewormed---That-Is-The-Question!&id=962745 I'd like to hear opinions/comments/advice. :D V Virginia Tupper NB, Cana

Re: [IceHorses] O/T Sophie

2008-05-30 Thread Anna Hopkins
She's a cutie. How big is she now? How old is she? Anna

Re: [IceHorses] O/T Sophie

2008-05-30 Thread Nancy Sturm
She is just the cutest thing. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] jaspar incident

2008-05-30 Thread susan cooper
--- Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > its a scarey day! Sounds like it was choke. Glad he's OK. Susan in NV read my blog to see why I ride my horse in pink: http://desertduty.blogspot.com/

RE: [IceHorses] Re: OT Vegetable Gardens (was Riding /people encounters)

2008-05-30 Thread snowpony
> > OK, I read the article but do you START by just putting the newspaer down on > flat, un-tilled earth and then pile up all the "stuff" or do you have to > till down a few inches first and just never have to do that again in the > future? Hi Bia, >From what I've researched, initially, you

Re: [IceHorses] OT-my diet

2008-05-30 Thread snowpony
Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > my daughter, and all my pets and horses, is completely hilarious and > undisciplined. > Janice-- Now gee, where could she get THAT from . . . . ? -- Renee M. in Michigan

Re: [IceHorses] Daughter's wedding

2008-05-30 Thread Nancy Sturm
Laree, What a beautiful wedding. You daughter is just lovely. Each of our grandaughters has had the dream of being married here on the farm, arriving in a horse-drawn carriage. I kept a cart and driving horse just for them, but they both have eventually struggled with logistics, mostly fin

Re: [IceHorses] The Spot

2008-05-30 Thread Nancy Sturm
on the wild moor with the werewolves and baskervilles. ... and the Brontes? I confess "the moor" conjures up romantic visions of long vistas and tall waving grass. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] jaspar incident

2008-05-30 Thread Nancy Sturm
Whew! Glad that worked out. Poor Jas. Poor Janice. Nancy

[IceHorses] Daughter's wedding

2008-05-30 Thread Laree Shulman
My daughter was married last weekend and this is the link to some of the pictures. The first wedding she ever went to at age 10 was the marriage of her riding instructor . Her riding instructor was married in the horse pasture and arrived in a white horse drawn carriage and had big white tents f

Re: [IceHorses] The Spot

2008-05-30 Thread Janice McDonald
> > next week which is why I've brought him home from the moor where he's > > been living with some other young stallions. > > on the wild moor with the werewolves and baskervilles. janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

[IceHorses] jaspar incident

2008-05-30 Thread Janice McDonald
well i just got back from half way to the vet. I let Jas out for one of his meals between meals, about a half pound of alfalfa pellets, not cubes, just little pellets, and I saw he was done eating so I went to give him a rinse to cool him off, and he was standing there choking, would make a gurgli

Re: [IceHorses] My best vacation pictures.... and not even off topic

2008-05-30 Thread Nancy Sturm
Wonderful pictures. I think I need a vacation. At the ocean. With horses. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Black Bart

2008-05-30 Thread Nancy Sturm
Wow. He's really beautiful. One of the women we ride with just got a couple of Kiger Mustang mares. The one she rides is a real gem. She's beautiful, sensible, smooth-gaited. Annette loves her so much her eyes tear up when she talks about her. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] The Spot / Odin

2008-05-30 Thread Mic Rushen
On Fri, 30 May 2008 15:02:57 -0300, you wrote: >Why would that worry you? Because it will tend to make him heavier on the forehand and less able to flex at the poll, and he's naturally a bit ventroflexed anyway. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen ---

Re: [IceHorses] The Spot

2008-05-30 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Mic Rushen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >He's being gelded > next week which is why I've brought him home from the moor where he's > been living with some other young stallions. > What a beauty! V

Re: [IceHorses] The Spot / Odin

2008-05-30 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Mic Rushen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > His neck is short and thick which does worry me rather, though he > certainly does carry it well! ; ) > Why would that worry you? V

Re: [IceHorses] Black Bart

2008-05-30 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> i cant believe that fence! When you go to a BLM mustang adoption and >>> read the paperwork it goes on page after page about how they have to >>> have these tall panel pens, how they dont recognize normal fencing etc, >>> how you can only transport them in a step up stock trailer, etc. an

Re: [IceHorses] Black Bart

2008-05-30 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: These horses are pretty special, and not many people want them. > Why are they special and why don't people want them? (This new adoption came out of nowhere for me--I must be missing emails.) V

[IceHorses] Re: OT-my diet

2008-05-30 Thread Kaaren Jordan
>parsley & hi BP diuretics< You only use a small handful of the tops & this batch makes about 12, 1 cup servings, so unless your MD has said to avoid parsley altogether, the amounts are small in each cup. You could leave it out if you are concerned or cut the amount to your comfort zone. Kaaren

Re: [IceHorses] Black Bart

2008-05-30 Thread Karen Thomas
>> Are you bringing this one home? Good thing you don't go on vacation >> often Not literally. We've been approved to adopt him for several weeks now, but we'll probably wait until his wound is a little more fully healed until we bring him home. That way, the same vet can monitor his progr

[IceHorses] Re: OT-my diet

2008-05-30 Thread Kaaren Jordan
>Cilantro instead of parsley< Cilantro has a different effect, so in this case parsley is better...but cilantro is a wonderful addition to your daily "greens" because it helps to clear heavy metals from the body..most notably mercury. In Japan they routinely give people a specially distilled cila

Re: [IceHorses] Little Visitor

2008-05-30 Thread Janice McDonald
oh they have made friends! I bet she likes being tall for a change!! he is just so teeny... Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] O/T sunsets

2008-05-30 Thread Lorraine
> The fifth beautiful sunset of this week. This is > the sunset over the > Currituck Sound, looking back inland from the NC > Outer Banks, where we've > been on vacation this week. > oh how pretty Lorraine

[IceHorses] Give Your Horse a Want-To Attitude

2008-05-30 Thread Judy Ryder
http://horsemanship101.com/John-Lyons-Training-Newsletter/Issues/Improving-Attitudes.html Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Black Bart

2008-05-30 Thread Jacki Edens
Are you bringing this one home? Good thing you don't go on vacation often Karen

Re: [IceHorses] Black Bart

2008-05-30 Thread Janice McDonald
i cant believe that fence! When you go to a BLM mustang adoption and read the paperwork it goes on page after page about how they have to have these tall panel pens, how they dont recognize normal fencing etc, how you can only transport them in a step up stock trailer, etc. and there is this wild

Re: [IceHorses] Young wild stallion

2008-05-30 Thread Janice McDonald
he looks like a brat haha. And has an icy neck! Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] Fwd: 2008-05-29 15:46:01 (Mw 6.1) ICELAND 64.0 -21.0

2008-05-30 Thread Janice McDonald
on the news they called it "a geographically unstable volcanic island". I hope the horses are ok there! Malin is the only person on this list I can think of there, I hope she is ok... i dont know where she is in relation to reykjavick sp? Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] My best vacation pictures.... and not even off topic

2008-05-30 Thread Janice McDonald
i wonder why they go to the beach! I bet because the breeze keeps bugs away and its cool and they can take a dip if they want! that is so awesome! such a difference from how we all perceive wild horses since we all tend to think of them out west... Janice -- even good horses have bad days somet

Re: [IceHorses] Fatness

2008-05-30 Thread Janice McDonald
On 5/30/08, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > she is just fat...I have had her for 343 days. Do they get fatty > > swellings in front of the udder? I thought the bags appeared where the > > nipples are not further forward where her 'bags' appear to be. She has > > more than a handful each

[IceHorses] my breeding hell

2008-05-30 Thread Janice McDonald
the man who brought his jenny and left her here eight weeks, she kicked curly ray til his whole chest was a bloody pulp, she caused so many problems with my herd, housing them separately, all that. We decided thats it, he is out of the stud business, never again. But we thought the baby would be

Re: [IceHorses] trausti herd intro

2008-05-30 Thread Janice McDonald
On 5/30/08, Mic Rushen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 30 May 2008 09:05:43 -0500, you wrote: > > >put him and nasi in with Jaspar first. t > > S+Did Jasper put on a bit of weight? He looks pretty good! > > Mic > i noticed that too! Up close he is still ribby and hips and spine are promine

RE: [IceHorses] Re: OT Vegetable Gardens (was Riding /people encounters)

2008-05-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Girls, >If you're establishing new gardens, there's a method called "Lasagna > http://tinyurl.com/5b2ft6 > We are switching over to this type this year. OK, I read the article but do you START by just putting the newspaer down on flat, un-tilled earth and then pile up all the "stuff" o

Re: [IceHorses] The Spot / Odin

2008-05-30 Thread Janice McDonald
thats all stonewall has ever done in the field and he is a great racker.\Janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] The Spot / Odin

2008-05-30 Thread Nancy Sturm
So far he only ever shows trot in the field That's what I like about him - that huge floaty trot. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] trausti herd intro

2008-05-30 Thread Mic Rushen
On Fri, 30 May 2008 09:05:43 -0500, you wrote: >put him and nasi in with Jaspar first. t S+Did Jasper put on a bit of weight? He looks pretty good! Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandi

Re: [IceHorses] The Spot / Odin

2008-05-30 Thread Mic Rushen
On Fri, 30 May 2008 09:28:38 -0500, you wrote: >said the 3 >year old actually walked UNDER the horse as she was backing it out of >the trailer! Sounds like a real candidate for Parent of the Year Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen ---

Re: [IceHorses] The Spot / Odin

2008-05-30 Thread Mic Rushen
On Fri, 30 May 2008 08:59:55 -0500, you wrote: >man oh man, what a beauty! He has a slightly ewe neck and since he >isnt ridden I think thats an indicator of a racker. So far he only ever shows trot in the field, though he tolted a bit when he was small. His mum is 4 gaited and I think he will b

Re: [IceHorses] Re: OT-my diet

2008-05-30 Thread Laree Shulman
. Either curly leaf parsley or the Italian flat leaf > are fine. > > Kaaren - isn't parsley a diuretic and do you need to be careful with it if you are on a diuretic for high blood pressure? Laree in NC Doppa & Mura Simon, Sadie and Sam (the "S" gang) "Yet when all the books have been read and

Re: [IceHorses] Re: OT-my diet

2008-05-30 Thread Nancy Sturm
Either curly leaf parsley or the Italian flat leaf are fine. Kaaren, Could you use cilantro to the same effect? Nancy

[IceHorses] Re: OT-my diet

2008-05-30 Thread Kaaren Jordan
>type of green beans used in soup recipe< Mic: When I visited the UK back in 2000, I just used the local courgettes (sp) & french green beans to make the soup. You don't have to use the fancy haricot verts. Lower starch green beans have the mineral/alkalinity profile we are looking for here. Ei

Re: [IceHorses] Fatness

2008-05-30 Thread Judy Ryder
> she is just fat...I have had her for 343 days. Do they get fatty > swellings in front of the udder? I thought the bags appeared where the > nipples are not further forward where her 'bags' appear to be. She has > more than a handful each side. Yes, they do get swellings in those areas. My TWH

Re: [IceHorses] SE Season / BOSS

2008-05-30 Thread Laree Shulman
> Where do you get your BOSS? > At the farm and garden store - just be sure there are no additives - sometimes you will find that if you buy it at a place that sells a lot of bird seed. I think it is one of those things that you aren't going to see any appreciable difference just to look at them

Re: [IceHorses] The Spot / Odin

2008-05-30 Thread Janice McDonald
also, maybe times are hard in the uk as they are here? I dont know how it is there. But here i dont think much of anyone should be horse breeding right now! Unless you have a very secure income and/or you plan to always keep the offspring or have a buyer already waiting in line to buy foals...

Re: [IceHorses] Muzzle

2008-05-30 Thread Raven
>> I love it. I used it on my husband and it worked great. Hum...Lorraine...on your hubby!?!?! LOL <;p]Sounds kinda kinky. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess

Re: [IceHorses] The Spot / Odin

2008-05-30 Thread Janice McDonald
man oh man, what a beauty! He has a slightly ewe neck and since he isnt ridden I think thats an indicator of a racker. Stonewall has always had that! Odin wants to hold his head high! anpther sign of a racker. in the second pic he seems to be doing some sort of really nice little natural high

Re: [IceHorses] The Spot

2008-05-30 Thread Nancy Sturm
Oh my. He's really lovely. Nancy

[IceHorses] Re: Vaccinations / Spreading Them Out

2008-05-30 Thread Susan Coombes
> In Finland we only routinely give influenza and tetanus and many (if not most?) horses are totally unvaccinated. Still SE is quite common among imported Icelandics. > > Krisse In UK we only give tetanus adding flu if they are likely to mix with strangers. Ofeig got flu in case she goes away

Re: [IceHorses] Birthday ride

2008-05-30 Thread Janice McDonald
On 5/29/08, Lorraine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kevin present to me was riding with me today. The > boys did great. We saw a 3 ft diamond back. Scarry. > Decided to go a different way. Scooter is turning > golden now that he is shedding. > > Lorraine > sounds like a perfect birthday goft t

Re: [IceHorses] The Spot

2008-05-30 Thread Janice McDonald
my gosh mic what a gorgeous beast. is he splash?? What color is he! He is just such a beauty. Was odin blonde? I think i would have named this one brad pitt. Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

[IceHorses] Red bay colt with locking patella

2008-05-30 Thread Karen Thomas
It does appear that the colt with the locking patella has been adopted! The herd manager is taking him into the vet today to get his stifles checked to determine what treatment is needed, or if a wait-and-see attitude is justified. It sounds like the people who will take him have the resources

Re: [IceHorses] Re:OT-my diet

2008-05-30 Thread Janice McDonald
> > In fact a soup of 1 lb green beans (frozen is fine), 4-6 med zucchini, & a > handful of parsley tops simmered covered for 15-18 min. until tender, then > blended is one of the best balancers you can do. Great as a de-tox...after > overindulging, or if you just feel under the weather. The weig

Re: [IceHorses] Vaccinations / Spreading Them Out

2008-05-30 Thread Skise
Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti: > > >>> more and more evidence that the 3 or 5 way shots are > > not the best way to go - separating and spreading out the shots like > > this is much better for the horse. > > > I know that years ago when we discussed SE and imported Icelandics, it was

Re: [IceHorses] Re:OT-my diet - Raven????

2008-05-30 Thread Nancy Sturm
Speaking of weight loss - Raven you need to join this conversation. How much have you lost? And, while not up to Raven's numbers, I've lost 17 lbs since February - riding a small horse is such motivation. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Re: OT Vegetable Gardens (was Riding /people encounters)

2008-05-30 Thread Wanda Lauscher
2008/5/30 Susan Coombes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I am running out of places to put manure now that I have surrounded > the house by applying it to the flower beds. We call it the house at > pooh corner as in Winnie the Pooh. Ha! Pooh corner...sounds like a farm name in the making. I> it and then b

[IceHorses] Re:OT-my diet

2008-05-30 Thread Susan Coombes
> >1 lb green beans (frozen is fine > > Runner beans? French beans? ??? > > Mic > That's great news. We grow 5 varieties of beans and freeze enough to last a whole year. They are by far the easiest vegetable to grow. Broad beans are best. So much better than those horrid things in the shops.

Re: [IceHorses] Re:OT-my diet

2008-05-30 Thread Mic Rushen
On Thu, 29 May 2008 19:22:07 -0700, you wrote: >1 lb green beans (frozen is fine Runner beans? French beans? ??? Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch

Re: [IceHorses] my new horse

2008-05-30 Thread Mic Rushen
On Thu, 29 May 2008 17:51:17 -0500, you wrote: >well it was a horrific intro to nasi. here they are in the usual >spectacular power struggle. Hey, Nos is wearing a redneck grazing mask! ; ) Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen

[IceHorses] supplement for overweight horses

2008-05-30 Thread Susan Coombes
Does anyone have experience with Hilton Herbs metabolite gold. I have been advised that it is very good. http://www.hiltonherbs.com/equine/equine_specialneeds.cfm? cfid=29464067&cftoken=91108025 It is about half way down this page. I would like to know your opinions. Sue Coombes