On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:40:37 -0500, you wrote:
do you think most iceys have a jog similar in footfalls but distinct
in feeling from their bigger trot?
Certainly nearly all five gaited (ie with pace) horses can do a nice
trot without suspension, the definition of jog, I believe (it's not
much
Certainly nearly all five gaited (ie with pace) horses can do a nice
trot without suspension, the definition of jog, I believe (it's not much
recognised in the UK, being looked on as faulty in most breeds, though
it's much more comfortable to ride and presumably uses much less energy).
If you
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 07:51:12 -0500, you wrote:
owned in the past, but I think one contributing factor to a horse having a
nice jog is having a rather upright shoulder, although not all horses with
upright shoulders seem to jog equally.
I've always been taught - and experienced - that horses with
On Sun, Feb 10, 2008 at 04:57:39PM +, Mic Rushen wrote:
owned in the past, but I think one contributing factor to a horse having a
nice jog is having a rather upright shoulder, although not all horses with
upright shoulders seem to jog equally.
I've always been taught - and experienced -
hm. what do you think of stjarni's shoulder from that pic, if i may
ask?
It's hard to tell in a picture of a moving horse, especially one wearing
tack.
Karen Thomas, NC
How is the proper trot in those horses you would classify as having
a good jog?
That's probably a little hard for me to answer, since a fair number of the
three-gaited horses I've ridden have been QH or stock-type horses. :) Let
me just compare the joggers to the non-joggers I've
How is the proper trot in those horses you would classify as having
a good jog?
A very VERY long time ago I rode a few Western horses. I don't know what
they are doing today, but then these horses were asked to jog, to trot and
to extend the trot. The good ones had lovely trots at each
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 12:04:10 -0500, you wrote:
hm. what do you think of stjarni's shoulder from that pic, if i may
ask?
Can you post it again, please? (or send it privately if you prefer)
Mic
Mic (Michelle) Rushen
are you new at riding icelandics like me Nancy?? I keep expecting the
trotting breed gaits to be the same and they arent! Tivar's canter is
almost scarey, it feels like a powerful thundering gallop on a walking
horse, definitely not a rocking chair canter. But I see nasi in the
pasture and he
the AQHA trot, the peanut roller thing so slow it is almost a limp, is
called a lope.
Nope, the lope is their pitiful looking version of a canter. The jog is
their pitiful trot... Actually though, the show jog has about as much to do
with a natural jog as a natural running walk has to do
the AQHA trot, the peanut roller thing so slow it is almost a limp, is
called a lope. Many train it with a technique called spur check
which is interesting, they spur the horse when it goes too fast.
check its speed. Sometimes people will buy AQHA former show horses
at auction and be baffled
On Feb 10, 2008 4:14 AM, Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Certainly nearly all five gaited (ie with pace) horses can do a nice
trot without suspension, the definition of jog, I believe (it's not
much recognised in the UK, being looked on as faulty in most breeds,
though it's much more
are you new at riding icelandics like me Nancy??
Oh my yes. If I used my hands and my feet, I could probably count up the
rides I have had on an Icelandic, and I've never ridden a truly well
trained Icelandic. First, I rode Lina, out friend's therapy horse. She's a
little doll, but
On Feb 10, 2008 7:32 PM, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
are you new at riding icelandics like me Nancy??
Oh my yes. If I used my hands and my feet, I could probably count up the
rides I have had on an Icelandic, and I've never ridden a truly well
trained Icelandic.
well its just
And doesnt mind others leaving him. not AT all.
I really like that trait in a horse!
Nancy
Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://iceryder.net/videogaitkolfinjorun.html
Two little pacers. To my eyes, the white one comes close to a stepping pace
at times.Man, that slow-mo feature is SURE nice to see the footfalls as
well as pick-up and set down.
What do you guys
I seem to see pace in everything, but I'm still thinking pace.
Nancy
On 2/9/08, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hopefully, this is an easyone,
Wish you hadn't said that. When I first looked at it, I though trot,
but when I got out my cheat sheet, I now thick it is a foxtrot. The
only thing is that this two foot phase is close to the two foot phase
of the
On 2/9/08, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is normally a bad angle for seeing gaits, but maybe you can see this
one plainly enough.
There's no canter on the cheat sheet, but that's my guess.
--
Anna
Southern Ohio
There's no canter on the cheat sheet, but that's my guess.
Yes, it was canter.
Karen Thomas, NC
it occurs to me that i found one (from last summer).
(i still can't find my camera. more annoyingly, i discovered that the
flip video i really wanted doesn't work with macos)
so, what gait?
--vicka
On 09/02/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so, what gait?
--vicka
Did you mean to attach a pic with that Vicka?
Wanda
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 05:32:49PM -0600, Wanda Lauscher wrote:
Looks like a nice trot to me.
to me too -- but if i remember correctly from the time, it was slow,
and SO SMOOOTH and bounce-less i could hardly believe it when i saw
the picture. (very unlike stjarni's usual trot, which is HUGE
Looks like a nice trot to me.
Wanda
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 05:06:54PM -0600, Wanda Lauscher wrote:
On 09/02/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so, what gait?
--vicka
Did you mean to attach a pic with that Vicka?
i did, in a message shortly following.
--vicka
I think if an Icelandic is given his head from the start and allowed
to find his own balance during training, then all sorts of nice things
can happen.
*grin* if i ever get a camera again, or a video that works with my
machine, i will try to get some pictures of stjarni's big trot. i
ride
In a message dated 2/9/2008 3:21:54 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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What kind of saddle are you using that sure looks comfy. He is beautiful,
wow. Sylvia
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On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 07:04:22PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What kind of saddle are you using that sure looks comfy. He is beautiful,
wow. Sylvia
thank you! :) that is a sensation dressage g3 saddle that i had on
trial from kaaren jordan (kaaren please correct me if i am wrong?)
it
Pace, almost purely two-beat. I like her other gaits better. :)
I will NEVER learn. I feel a tantrum coming on. I can't see pace, at
least the hard (ship rolling on a heavy sea) pace Twist does where his feet
on one side work in sync.
I would have guessed either stepping pace or maybe
On 08/02/2008, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I will NEVER learn. I feel a tantrum coming on. I can't see pace, at
least the hard (ship rolling on a heavy sea) pace Twist does where his feet
on one side work in sync.
I would have guessed either stepping pace or maybe even flat
http://iceryder.net/videogaitnanna6.html'
Pace, almost purely two-beat. I like her other gaits better. :)
Is she doing something to ask for pace this time, or is this the mare's
default...or is something else going on?
Karen Thomas, NC
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Here's Willie:
http://iceryder.net/videogaitwillie.html
I think he is pacing!
Sarah in MT
I can't believe he is so coordinated that he can pace in a circle, but
that's what I think I'm seeing. Even Twist, low on the scale for
athleticism, trots in the round pen.
Nancy
Here's Willie:
http://iceryder.net/videogaitwillie.html
Judy
http://iceryder.net
http://clickryder.com
It looks like pace but it doesn't seem perfectly even - so I am not
sure if that makes it something else. Sarah in MT
Gosh, I'm happy to see so many people playing the what gait game today!
Karen Thomas, NC
http://iceryder.net/videogaitnanna6.html'
It looks like pace but it doesn't seem perfectly even - so I am not
sure if that makes it something else.
Sarah in MT
I will NEVER learn. I feel a tantrum coming on. I can't see pace, at
least the hard (ship rolling on a heavy sea) pace Twist does where his
feet on one side work in sync. I would have guessed either stepping
pace or maybe even flat walk. I probably should just go outside and
I would have guessed either stepping pace or maybe even flat walk. I
probably should just go outside and ride.
Just embrace your position on the grand scale of what gait
expertise. Maybe some day we will be hardly ever wrong, and then
what? There will be no way to go but down :)
Janice
On Feb 8, 2008, at 11:00 AM, Judy Ryder wrote:
Here's Willie:
http://iceryder.net/videogaitwillie.html
Looks to me like a very nice pace. He has the flexibility in his
hindquarters and hocks to execute it without much side to side sway
(his tail is moving mainly from the breeze, not from
Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's Willie:
http://iceryder.net/videogaitwillie.html
Oh wow - he reminds me so much of the way our Rose could pace everywhere. I
remember trying to get her to break that gait by riding around the outside of
the roundpen and she'd just pace
Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://iceryder.net/videogaitnanna6.html'
stepping pace -- but not one of the nicer smooth ones, looking at the rider.
-- Renee M.
http://iceryder.net/videogaitnanna6.html'
Judy
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb1bNjrUCv4
Pam, he is a gorgeous horse! I do love a blaze! He's a little bit far away
to see which legs are which. Do you want me to try to bring him closer to
the camera and put in some slo-mo?
Judy
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The video link below shows a friend of mine Peder Swenson riding
Blessi. I thought everyone might enjoy seeing this. Peder is over 6
feet in height.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb1bNjrUCv4
Regards, Pamela
Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What gait is this Standardbred doing (in harness)?
I see a lateral gait in a very close to one-foot support phase, but it looks
like there is a 2-foot support phase coming next.So, I'd be inclined to say
a rack (tolt), or maybe a saddle rack.
--
Well, here's what he's NOT doing. This is Brett Hanover, a pacing
Standardbred and ancestor to our Twist.
Nancy
attachment: brett hanover.jpg
http://iceryder.net/videogaitnanna3.html
How does Nanna's #3 gait (above) compare to this Icelandic Horse's gait:
http://iceryder.net/videogaitice3.html
Judy
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http://iceryder.net/videogaitnanna3.html
How does Nanna's #3 gait (above) compare to this Icelandic Horse's gait:
http://iceryder.net/videogaitice3.html
I love this stuff. . . . Okay, with the gelding I see diagonal
pairs working rather than lateral pairs, but broken -- that is, the
With the understanding that I NEVER get it right:
Nanna's slightly lateral movement seems to start with the feet on the same
side of her body picking up pretty much together and setting down at
different times. On the little chart that Judy suggested I sleep with, that
makes Nanna's gait
I think we could possibly have Icelandic Fox Trotters and Icelandic
Walkers.
I not only think it's possible, I think we DO have them - lots of them. In
fact, I'd go so far as to say that we probably have a lot more horses who
prefer either foxtrot or running walk (or both) than we have
On 1/29/08, Bia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would say canter...I'm almost always wrong on these pictures
though...
Bia
Not this time. She was indeed cantering.
Hey! I think I'm getting a tiny bit better at the What Gait? Game
Bia
haha good for you!! I get better at some but still, i
You should be very proud of Nanna! I would be. And I love Bekka. Is
that a RW?? She has a little Nasi snip :) so watch OUT.
Janice
--
courage is being scared to death...and saddling up anyway--John Wayne
With nanna, I kinda thought RW, but I studied it hard and thought I saw
just a barely perceptive swing of the nose from side to side so i said
stepping pace
I noticed that too, Janice! But, you know what I saw recently in Lee's book
that surprised me? Lee (who certainly stared at
In the rack, each foot sets down separately, even timing; but the timing
of
the pick up is lateral; they are moving, picking up, more closely together
in time.
I think part of my struggle with identifying photos of gait is that my
experience of gait is primarily from riding and that with
I thought maybe stepping pace, but again, I was expecting pace.
A rack can look like a stepping pace if you are looking at the pick up
of the feet. In the rack, each foot sets down separately, even timing; but
the timing of the pick up is lateral; they are moving, picking up, more
closely
http://iceryder.net/videogaitnanna3.html
Judy
http://iceryder.net
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stepping pace? whatever it is it is awesome. I really like Nanna.
Janice
--
courage is being scared to death...and saddling up anyway--John Wayne
I really like Nanna.
Janice
Me too. She's wonerful.
Nancy
stepping pace? whatever it is it is awesome.
The first part sounds too evenly four-beat to me to be a stepping pace and I
don't think it's very lateral. I can say black-and-decker to the sound, but
then I have no rhythm and am totally musically impaired. :) I think her
head is moving too
Fon is beautiful and doesnt look old at all... how old IS she??
Janice--
courage is being scared to death...and saddling up anyway--John Wayne
I just know, in a RW a horse has to be able to reach. RW is my
favorite gait.
Janice
--
courage is being scared to death...and saddling up anyway--John Wayne
http://iceryder.net/videogaitnanna3.html
stepping pace? whatever it is it is awesome. I really like Nanna.
Nanna is a great horse!
We got some very nice videos of her!
Did she trot for you?
The first part sounds too evenly four-beat to me to be a stepping pace and
I
don't think it's
Here is a photo of Bekka at about 6 mons old.
All babies are sweet, but I don't think there's anything cuter than an
Icellandic foal.
Nancy
Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This one is very close to a classic picture.
I think it's a to die-for running walk. : )
-- Renee M.
Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://iceryder.net/videogaitnanna3.html
I'm at work and there's limited sound on our computers, but this is a VERY
interesting little mover and shaker to me. I see lateral, and I see
relatively EVEN lateral movement, so not a stepping pace to my
On 30/01/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm at work and there's limited sound on our computers, but this is a VERY
interesting little mover and shaker to me. I see lateral, and I see
relatively EVEN lateral movement, so not a stepping pace to my eyes. BUT I
don't see
Look at her go sans bit on a loose rein and I'm thinking she
might be barefoot too. That is what NATURAL GAIT looks like.
I don't think Nanna has ever been shod.
Some may remember when Nanna won an Open 2 Gait Class at the EIGHA Gaited
Horse Show. There were 22 or some gaited horses of all
On 30/01/2008, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But some horses simply can't trot easily because of the way they are built -
I wouldn't really count that as stiffness in any bad way - it's just
different.
No not bad at all. I'm just always looking for stiffness issues when
I see these
I just know, in a RW a horse has to be able to reach. RW is my
favorite gait.
Does it HAVE to have reach, or is that just the ideal? I know they are
supposed to overstride with r/w, but isn't the paso llano basically the same
gait as the r/w, at least as far as footfalls? And the
This one is very close to a classic picture.
I think it's a to die-for running walk. : )
Yes, running walk, but slightly to the lateral. The in-flight front foot
would be closer to the vertical weight-bearing front leg, to be even,
square.
Judy
http://iceryder.net
I just know, in a RW a horse has to be able to reach. RW is my
favorite gait.
I see lateral, and I see relatively EVEN lateral movement, so not a
stepping pace to my eyes. BUT I don't see the reaching stepping under of the
back legs that I associate with a running walk. Neither do
Elephants do running walk, stepping pace and hard pace. A lot of dogs
pace, some sheep can do stepping pace - and so do mice!
Mic
Mic (Michelle) Rushen
---
Solva Icelandic Horses and
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:45:12 -0500, you wrote:
I was
surprised that no one mentioned leads when I first joined these lists -
apparently not a consideration in Icelandic showing.
Oh, they are - horses must be on the correct lead in oval track
competition (or dressage, of course).
Mic
Mic
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:15:15 -0500, you wrote:
A year or two later, that very same dude won one of the international titles
at the World Cup, and he was a previous tolt champion from Landsmott.
So far as I can remember, not being that experienced with
gaedingakeppni (which is what the Landsmot
Gaedingakeppni rules say it doesn't matter which lead the horse takes.
Which is quite understandable since the horse only needs to show gaits
on a straight track so there is no correct lead (if the competition is
on oval track the horse needs to show gaits on a long side which is also
Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti:
So far as I can remember, not being that experienced with
gaedingakeppni (which is what the Landsmot is) you don't need the
correct lead in canter but the mark is higher if it's correct.
At the WC (and all FEIF) competitions if you don't have the
I've never yet been at a clinic where the Icelander didn't bother about
the lead (unless the rider was a complete beginner who had never
cantered before or something like that, and even then it was mentioned
in theory).
This rider had been riding with one of these clinicians, at least a
Oh, they are - horses must be on the correct lead in oval track
competition (or dressage, of course).
At the one and only Icelander-led clinic I attended, one of the horses
repeatedly got the wrong lead on the track. I didn't want to be too bluntly
critical, so I tried casually asking one of
On Jan 29, 2008 4:36 AM, Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A lot of dogs
pace
My dog's front legs run and her back legs hop along behind.
V
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:17:02 +0200 (EET), you wrote:
Gaedingakeppni rules say it doesn't matter which lead the horse takes. Which
is quite understandable since the horse only needs to show gaits on a straight
track so there is no correct lead (if the competition is on oval track the
horse
Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti:
I have actually watched Gaedinakeppni held on an oval track where the
horse took either the wrong lead, or cross gallop (disunited canter)
on the shorts sides and no-one seemed to mind. That seemed very odd to
me, as a sport judge...
According to rules
http://iceryder.net/videogaitelephant.html
Slo-mo included.
The first part is a walk. second part?
Judy
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The first part is a walk. second part?
He's hauling it, that's for sure. Ok, he's not on the screen long enough
for my old, slow eyes, but I swear it looked like he was racking. I swear
it looks like he has all support on a single foot a couple of times. Surely
not...? I sort of
I would say canter...I'm almost always wrong on these pictures
though...
Bia
Not this time. She was indeed cantering.
Hey! I think I'm getting a tiny bit better at the What Gait? Game
Bia
http://iceryder.net/videogaitelephant.html
for my old, slow eyes, but I swear it looked like he was racking. I swear
it looks like he has all support on a single foot a couple of times.
Surely
not...? I sort of anticipated pace, but that's not what I THINK I saw.
Yes, right; it's a rack
I swear
it looks like he has all support on a single foot a couple of times.
Surely
not...? I sort of anticipated pace, but that's not what I THINK I saw.
I thought maybe stepping pace, but again, I was expecting pace.
Nancy
I thought maybe stepping pace, but again, I was expecting pace.
For some time, there has been the unanswered question: Do elephants run?
The definition of run being that the subject catches air time. Elephants
don't actually propel their bodies in an upward vector when moving fast, so
Another possibility - I'm a firm believer that horses mirror our bodies.
Maybe YOU'VE started anticipating trot a little more after riding Tivar so
long, so maybe you subconsciously are expecting - and thus asking for - a
trot?
Karen Thomas, NC
--
this is interesting to consider...
On 1/27/08, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was wishing I had my camera with me that day, because I would have
loved a video of it. From his tail set it looked more 'racky' but he
didn't sustain it long enough for me to study it.
When Janice visited here with Stonewall, I took a
Runa looks to be on the RW side of things to me. I think she has that
sweeping back end for it too. I am not even CLOSE to being good at
guessing, but I do know a horse that does a RW has to have that
sweeping long legged rear end going on.
I don't think running walk will be her easiest
On 28/01/2008, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Okay ladies, you have completely ruined everything for me. I was just
watching a segment of Barbie, Island Princess (a cinematic classic) with
Brenda. The elephant is executing a gait not known to man nor beast.
Yes, Nancy. You've caught
Okay ladies, you have completely ruined everything for me. I was just
watching a segment of Barbie, Island Princess (a cinematic classic) with
Brenda. The elephant is executing a gait not known to man nor beast. I
think they have the front feet moving forward together and then the hind
feet
I would say canter...
I'm almost always wrong on these pictures though...
Bia
The elephant is executing a gait not known to man nor beast. I think
they have the front feet moving forward together and then the hind feet
moving forward together.
Somehow all I can visualize from that description would be some giant
inch-worms sliding along! How funny! :)
But this
Cary told me I was gait-obsessed the day I noticed
Carmen the cat pacing - but then, he agreed that she does indeed pace.
We had a standard poodle that was forever on the wrong lead.
Nancy
We had a standard poodle that was forever on the wrong lead.
That would be understandable if she were an Icelandic poodle - I was
surprised that no one mentioned leads when I first joined these lists -
apparently not a consideration in Icelandic showing. Go figure.
Karen Thomas, NC
well, actually, Liz told me some runningwalk. I think ruby trots but
sometimes she goes so fast i think its a speed rack.
Janice
--
courage is being scared to death...and saddling up anyway--John Wayne
That would be understandable if she were an Icelandic poodle - I was
surprised that no one mentioned leads when I first joined these lists -
apparently not a consideration in Icelandic showing. Go figure.
Karen Thomas, NC
i love this thing nasi does when curly ray is trying to show
I would say canter...I'm almost always wrong on these pictures though...
Bia
Not this time. She was indeed cantering.
Runa is a goey Icelandic by my definition. That means she canters pretty
much the second she hears the word. No one has cantered her under saddle
yet, but at liberty,
http://iceryder.net/videogaitelephant.html
Slo-mo included.
Judy
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