Re: [Ilugc] Re: How to protect an idea from getting patented by someone?

2010-08-22 Thread steve
Hi, On 08/22/2010 10:50 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 10:44 +0530, Arun SAG wrote: On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: yes Please read http://www.redhat.com/legal/patent_policy.html wow - sensational. So where are

Re: [Ilugc] Re: How to protect an idea from getting patented by someone?

2010-08-22 Thread steve
Hi On 08/22/2010 11:29 AM, steve wrote: To the OP, Rahul already mentioned defensive publication, for example: http://www.openpatents.net/ sorry wrong url. That one is just to give up your idea for others to patent. I meant to paste:

Re: [Ilugc] Re: How to protect an idea from getting patented by someone?

2010-08-22 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 11:17 +0530, Arun SAG wrote: On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: wow - sensational. So where are the patents? I would hate to think I am wrong about it not having patents. As amachu said, you cannot do business in

Re: [Ilugc] Re: How to protect an idea from getting patented by someone?

2010-08-22 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 11:46 +0530, steve wrote: On 08/22/2010 11:29 AM, steve wrote: To the OP, Rahul already mentioned defensive publication, for example: http://www.openpatents.net/ sorry wrong url. That one is just to give up your idea for others to patent.

[Ilugc] Schedule for the Tamil Computing Unconference on Aug 28

2010-08-22 Thread விக்னேஷ் நந்த குமார்
Hi, In the Tamil Computing monthly meet held yesterday, the schedule for the Free Tamil Computing Unconference to be held on August 28 has been planned. The schedule is as follows: 09:00 - 09:30Introduction 09:30 - 10:15How multiple languages are handled in a Free Operating system -

Re: [Ilugc] Re: How to protect an idea from getting patented by someone?

2010-08-22 Thread steve
Hi, On 08/22/2010 11:56 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: I meant to paste: http://www.defensivepublications.org/ That too is part of the Open Invention Network mentioned in my last post. aha - so you *can* do business in the US without getting patents! Well, yes, you can. The ugly thing

[Ilugc] Re: Re: How to protect an idea from getting patented by

2010-08-22 Thread K.C. Ramakrishna
Seems like if you want to do software business in united states, you have to commit the sin. We are a free software consulting firm. I am a paying member of the FSF. I subscribe to the patent related views of FSF. I also subscribe to the 'pragmatic idealism' view point. Morality and

Re: [Ilugc] Re: How to protect an idea from getting patented by someone?

2010-08-22 Thread Narendra Sisodiya
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:16 PM, steve st...@lonetwin.net wrote: Defensive patenting is to create a patent on something so that you can protect yourself from being sued. Defensive publication is publication of an idea so that later on if someone tries to patent the idea, you can point to

Re: [Ilugc] difference between free and opensource software

2010-08-22 Thread Akilan R
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: sorry, you got it wrong. open source software is truly free. So called free software under GPL is restrictive of freedom you say this because GPLed software is not free to make it proprietary right? I'm sorry. I

[Ilugc] [Tip] Add Password Protection to a file your editing in vim.

2010-08-22 Thread Tha.Suresh
$ vim -x FILENAME Add Password Protection to a file your editing in vim. When you just want to edit a file and not worry about keys or having to deal needing extra software on hand. Thus, you can use vim's encrypted file format. ;) -- Regards, Tha.Suresh http://thasulinux.wordpress.com

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS awareness program @ Karpagam Institute of Technology, Coimbatore

2010-08-22 Thread Baskar Selvaraj
FOSS awareness means what topics will be discussed * What is FOSS ? (including the history of GNU (by RMS) and Linux (by Linus Torvalds) and make them clearly understand what is GNU and what is Linux and why it should be called GNU/Linux than just Linux) as steve elaborated in detail at

Re: [Ilugc] difference between free and opensource software

2010-08-22 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 15:20 +0530, Akilan R wrote: you say this because GPLed software is not free to make it proprietary right? I'm sorry. I don't want to place my software in near public domain where people can do whatever they wished. may I have the url to your software please -- regards

Re: [Ilugc] difference between free and opensource software

2010-08-22 Thread Akilan R
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 15:20 +0530, Akilan R wrote: you say this because GPLed software is not free to make it proprietary right? I'm sorry. I don't want to place my software in near public domain where people

Re: [Ilugc] difference between free and opensource software

2010-08-22 Thread Akilan R
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 15:20 +0530, Akilan R wrote: you say this because GPLed software is not free to make it proprietary right? I'm sorry. I don't want to place my software in near public domain where people

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS awareness program @ Karpagam Institute of Technology, Coimbatore

2010-08-22 Thread balaji sivanath
hi baskar, this link has no content http://www.apdip.net/publications/*foss*eprimers/*foss*-edu.pdf Setup a FOSS lab (a minimum of 60 computers) in the college using Fedora-13 (We install about 4225 packages in all the computers using kickstart method and ask the students to work on it for

Re: [Ilugc] Software Freedom Day (PR - Co-ordination)

2010-08-22 Thread Akilan R
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Ma Sivakumar masivaku...@gmail.com wrote: 2. If possible, provide a script link in the widget itself, clicking on which the widget can be added to a blog. For example, other bloggers coming to my blog should be able to add the widget to their blog by clicking

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS awareness program @ Karpagam Institute of Technology, Coimbatore

2010-08-22 Thread Arun SAG
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 8:09 PM, balaji sivanath starbala2...@gmail.comwrote: hi baskar, this link has no content http://www.apdip.net/publications/*foss*eprimers/*foss*-edu.pdf Try this http://www.apdip.net/publications/fosseprimers/foss-edu.pdf -- Arun S.A.G

Re: [Ilugc] session in opensource

2010-08-22 Thread balaji sivanath
hi baskar, Whether i have to pay transport charges? i am very eager to get those stuffs and showing to others, i will tell you within tomorrow evening. how long will it take to reach here. ___ ILUGC Mailing List:

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS awareness program @ Karpagam Institute of Technology, Coimbatore

2010-08-22 Thread balaji sivanath
Try this http://www.apdip.net/publications/fosseprimers/foss-edu.pdf it works sorry, without seeing *. i said as not working ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc

Re: [Ilugc] Software Freedom Day (PR - Co-ordination)

2010-08-22 Thread Akilan R
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, this is nice. Is it possible to use this in wordpress blogs? Since this module does not care about blog posts/ feeds etc presence of Google Blogger API is *not* necessary. So this should work on any blog sites that accept

Re: [Ilugc] Re: How to protect an idea from getting patented by someone?

2010-08-22 Thread steve
Hi, On 08/22/2010 02:28 PM, Narendra Sisodiya wrote: On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:16 PM, stevest...@lonetwin.net wrote: Defensive patenting is to create a patent on something so that you can protect yourself from being sued. Defensive publication is publication of an idea so that later on

Re: [Ilugc] Re: How to protect an idea from getting patented by someone?

2010-08-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/22/2010 02:28 PM, Narendra Sisodiya wrote: Am I correct If I say -- Idea cannot be patented but once they are published they can be used as prior art for defensing purpose ? That is confusing. When people talk about defensive patents, they are refer to the policy of organizations that

Re: [Ilugc] Re: How to protect an idea from getting patented by someone?

2010-08-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/22/2010 11:51 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote ok - so I am wrong. but not very wrong. I see 80 or so patents, apparently one in 2010, 2-3 in 2009 and all the rest several years ago. So either they have stopped writing innovative software or have stopped wasting their time (and lawyers fees)

Re: [Ilugc] difference between free and opensource software

2010-08-22 Thread steve
Hi, On 08/22/2010 03:20 PM, Akilan R wrote: On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: sorry, you got it wrong. open source software is truly free. So called free software under GPL is restrictive of freedom you say this because GPLed software is not

Re: [Ilugc] Re: Re: How to protect an idea from getting patented by

2010-08-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/22/2010 01:35 PM, K.C. Ramakrishna wrote: Seems like if you want to do software business in united states, you have to commit the sin. We are a free software consulting firm. I am a paying member of the FSF. I subscribe to the patent related views of FSF. I also subscribe to the

Re: [Ilugc] difference between free and opensource software

2010-08-22 Thread Narendra Sisodiya
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 9:30 PM, K.P. Senthil Kumar sekumar...@gmail.comwrote: Anyhow i asked what's the difference between opensource and free software if free software means freedom to use,modify,redistribute then what opensource refers? Free Software means not necessarily to be an

Re: [Ilugc] difference between free and opensource software

2010-08-22 Thread Narendra Sisodiya
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 06:13 +0530, Ma Sivakumar wrote: Open Source Software gives room for compromise in Freedom. To differentiate truly Free open source software from those which have just source open, the

Re: [Ilugc] difference between free and opensource software

2010-08-22 Thread Narendra Sisodiya
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 21:21 +0530, balaji sivanath wrote: Anyhow i asked what's the difference between opensource and free software if free software means freedom to use,modify,redistribute then what

Re: [Ilugc] difference between free and opensource software

2010-08-22 Thread Narendra Sisodiya
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:26 AM, steve st...@lonetwin.net wrote: Hi, On 08/22/2010 03:20 PM, Akilan R wrote: On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: sorry, you got it wrong. open source software is truly free. So called free software under GPL

Re: [Ilugc] Re: Re: How to protect an idea from getting patented by

2010-08-22 Thread Narendra Sisodiya
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:48 AM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/22/2010 01:35 PM, K.C. Ramakrishna wrote: Seems like if you want to do software business in united states, you have to commit the sin. We are a free software consulting firm. I am a paying member of the FSF.

[Ilugc] [JOB][OT] VideoPulp Technologies Bangalore

2010-08-22 Thread Mohan Sundaram
Posting a startup company's job = Job Description for Engineer - VideoPulp technlogies VideoPulp Technologies is a startup in Video Search. We work on cutting edge technologies to extract contextual data from videos and build

[Ilugc] [Tip] When feeling down, this command helps

2010-08-22 Thread Tha.Suresh
When feeling down, this command helps $ sl $ sudo apt-get install sl $ man sl :-) ;-) -- Regards, Tha.Suresh http://thasulinux.wordpress.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc

[Ilugc] [JOB] Urgent requirement for System Developer - Linux with One the leading MNC at B'lore

2010-08-22 Thread Srinivasan Sundararajan
got the following info in one of my mails. those interested could contact the recruiter directly. with best wishes, srinivasan -- from : hi...@dcspl.com hi...@dcspl.com We are pleased to introduce ourselves as a fast growing recruitment consultancy firm engaged

Re: [Ilugc] session in opensource

2010-08-22 Thread Baskar Selvaraj
i dont know whether i can give college address to get those repository, sorry i have to ask HOD so i can tell about it on monday evening or tuesday only. The ubuntu 10.04 install dvd + 8 packages dvd is ready to send to your college address. We can provide the free software media and

Re: [Ilugc] [Tip] Fast and Clever at the command line

2010-08-22 Thread sivakumar
On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 22:48 +0530, Tha.Suresh wrote: Get lightning fast and clever at the command line You can use keyboard shortcuts and other command line tricks to make entering commands easier and faster. You might already know about the ‘tab’ key which completes partial commands and

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS awareness program @ Karpagam Institute of Technology, Coimbatore

2010-08-22 Thread Baskar Selvaraj
Why are you going for fedora.. is there any particular reason (in our college we are having ubuntu,if fedora is better for any reason i can suggest them to use it), Since, many colleges don't have DVD drives in the computers, the only way for us to setup a FOSS lab is through PXE based

[Ilugc] Google Voice and Video Plugin Isnt for Fedora

2010-08-22 Thread Arun Prakash
Hi all, I recently found that Google has released its voice and video chat plugin for Linux users . When i tried to install it for my System running Fedora 13 from the site http://www.google.com/chat/video , I found the plugin is downloaded in .deb extension .ie., for Debian based System

Re: [Ilugc] Google Voice and Video Plugin Isnt for Fedora

2010-08-22 Thread Varrun Ramani
On 23 August 2010 11:08, Arun Prakash arunprakas...@live.com wrote: Isnt the Google plugin available for Fedora ? http://tinyurl.com/2ent5sy Not sure if there is a way but Google Technical requirements state that a Debian based Linux distribution is necessary. -- Varrun Ramani