Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-18 Thread Shrinivasan T
Friends. Let us stop this discussion here. Hope baskar will continue sending mails on this list on all his FOSS related activities. If the event is organized via ILUGC, he can put the word on bahalf of ILUGC. else, he can omit the string. Please stop here. -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-18 Thread A. Mani
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Mohan Sundaram mohan@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:55 PM, A. Mani a.mani@gmail.com wrote: Further the member(s) in question should inform the list well in advance and obtain an implicit no objection certificate on the mailing list. Such

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-17 Thread Sahil ModGill
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Baskar Selvaraj bas...@linuxpert.inwrote: Not necessary. I wish to stay away from all these noices because of my regular posts in this list. Si, no disturbance due to any of your post. As I was really worried about our education system going behind

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-17 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, --- On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Sundaram KR sundaram.ramachand...@kggroup.com wrote: | 2. The Linux kernel is jointly developed by entities such as RedHat, IBM etc. all of which are | commercial public companies, that exist to provide gains to shareholders. The employees from | the

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-17 Thread Sundaram KR
The objectives are different for a user group mailing list and a project list. They are not the same. --- Is it the objective of ilugc mailing list to prevent members from talking about Commercial activities on the list? Nobody is answering this simple question; Free Software

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-17 Thread Sundaram KR
Iff the company has given permission to the employee to use his/her official e-mail address, can he/she use the same. Otherwise, a different account needs to be used. Whether the individual is authorized to speak for the organization or not doesn't matter. Any e-mail sent through the official

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-17 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, --- On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Sundaram KR sundaram.ramachand...@kggroup.com wrote: | Likewise on this list, many members are working on | FOSS products and services; sometimes gratis, sometimes charging money. \-- This is a volunteer-driven list, and people try to help each other out

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-17 Thread Sundaram KR
There have been cases where groups, and conferences (in India) have been hijacked for personal or commercial interests. I have not seen anybody hijacking this list for personal interests which are not based around Free Software. If anybody tries to do that on this list, we can simply ban

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-17 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, --- On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Sundaram KR sundaram.ramachand...@kggroup.com wrote: | I have not seen anybody hijacking this list for personal interests | which are not based around Free Software. \-- True. I am only trying to make people aware of what has happened in other

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-17 Thread A. Mani
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Raman Pandarinathan raam...@gmail.com wrote: 1.Let us use 'on behalf of ILUGC' only if any ONE of the following is satisfied a.If the offer for the event came to ILUGC either on the list or to the co-ordinator/members and someone attends the event. Further

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-17 Thread Ganesh Ranganathan
I am new to the list but personally I feel that there using the On behalf of ILUGC name for conducting free events and workshops should be allowed or rather encouraged. Imparting knowledge for free resonates with the core principles of the FOSS community. The contentious part seems to be when the

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-17 Thread Noorul Islam K M
Raman Pandarinathan raam...@gmail.com writes: Dear all Probably I would have posted maximum 'on behalf of ILUGC' in the list for the last 10 years. My humble opinion 1.Let us use 'on behalf of ILUGC' only if any ONE of the following is satisfied a.If the offer for the event came to

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-17 Thread Balachandran Sivakumar
Hi On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:55 PM, A. Mani a.mani@gmail.com wrote: Further the member(s) in question should inform the list well in advance and obtain an implicit no objection certificate on the mailing list. Why do you think this is needed ? What does an implicit no objection

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-17 Thread satyaakam goswami
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:55 PM, A. Mani a.mani@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Raman Pandarinathan raam...@gmail.com wrote: 1.Let us use 'on behalf of ILUGC' only if any ONE of the following is satisfied a.If the offer for the event came to ILUGC either on the

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-17 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:55 PM, A. Mani a.mani@gmail.com wrote: Further the member(s) in question should inform the list well in advance and obtain an implicit no objection certificate on the mailing list. Such thoughts in the context of what Baskar is doing boil down to being regimental

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-17 Thread Noorul Islam K M
Mohan Sundaram mohan@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:55 PM, A. Mani a.mani@gmail.com wrote: Further the member(s) in question should inform the list well in advance and obtain an implicit no objection certificate on the mailing list. Such thoughts in the context of

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-17 Thread Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன்
Hi I think we have lost complete sight of the spirit and the symbiotic relationship ILUGC can have with companies like Baskar's in furthering the cause of FOSS. The following information was told to me by Railway Baskar (The railway Baskar, not the linuxpert baskar) Railway Baskar and Linux

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-17 Thread Sundaram KR
Do we need a clearance to conduct an event, I think the co-ordinator should take a call, My opinion is , it is better to have one. My opinion is; On Behalf Of is a meaningless term. There is no need for any clearance since this meaningless term On Behalf Of can be removed.

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-17 Thread Baskar Selvaraj
The following information was told to me by Railway Baskar (The railway Baskar, not the linuxpert baskar) Railway Baskar and Linux expert company did a workshop at Eswari Engg College. Sorry for your misunderstanding. But that was not a workshop, but a complete three months commercial

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-17 Thread Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன்
Hi, Baskar, not the linuxpert baskar) Railway Baskar and Linux expert company did a workshop at Eswari Engg College. Sorry for your misunderstanding. But that was not a workshop, but a complete three months commercial training program conducted for the students of MCA requested by the

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-16 Thread Shrinivasan T
I dont mean that people dont like your posts. They just wanted the posts to come without the string on bahalf of ilugc as none of the ilugc members know how you contact the colleges and organize the events. You can directly say as on bahalf of linuxpert.in too. No harm in this. Please keep

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-16 Thread Baskar Selvaraj
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote: I dont mean that people dont like your posts. They just wanted the posts to come without the string on bahalf of ilugc as none of the ilugc members know how you contact the colleges and organize the events. You can

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-16 Thread Baskar Selvaraj
They just wanted the posts to come without the string on bahalf of ilugc as none of the ilugc members know how you contact the colleges and organize the events. Earlier, this list received few requests for conducting guest lecture / workshop on FOSS in their respective colleges. As no one

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-16 Thread Mohan L
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 9:02 PM, balachandar muruganantham mbchan...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote: If some members dont want to hear, shouldnt it be decided by the community? may be take a vote. lets not define rules and

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-16 Thread balachandar muruganantham
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote: I dont mean that people dont like your posts. They just wanted the posts to come without the string on bahalf of ilugc as none of the ilugc members know how you contact the colleges and organize the events. who are

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-16 Thread Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன்
Hi If some members dont want to hear, shouldnt it be decided by the community? may be take a vote. lets not define rules and regulations just to do define it. how about taking this action item in the next meet?. regards, Thyagarajan Shanmugham On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Mohan L

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-16 Thread Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன்
Hi, Apologies for top posting. regards, Thyagarajan Shanmugham ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-16 Thread Sundaram KR
I want to make several points on this topic: 1. The Free in FOSS stands for Freedom or Sudhandhiram; not Free as in Gratis or Ilavasam. As long as any of the 3000 members of this list post their thoughts, and those postings are related to Freedom providing software; I or nobody should

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-16 Thread Baskar Selvaraj
Dear members, how about taking this action item in the next meet?. Not necessary. I wish to stay away from all these noices because of my regular posts in this list. As I was really worried about our education system going behind proprietary software, I took my very own initiative of

[Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-15 Thread Baskar Selvaraj
Dear all, My sincere apologies for posting the FDP/Workshop Event Report mails in ILUG-C in the recent times. As I came to know through Mr.Shrinivasan, the members of the ILUG-C community were against the term 'on behalf of ILUG-C' used in my posts. As you all are aware that I have been a

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-15 Thread satyaakam goswami
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Baskar Selvaraj bas...@linuxpert.inwrote: Dear all, My sincere apologies for posting the FDP/Workshop Event Report mails in ILUG-C in the recent times. Do not understand the apology why ? As I came to know through Mr.Shrinivasan, the members of the ILUG-C

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-15 Thread Srinivasan Sundararajan
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 9:41 AM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.comwrote: My sincere apologies for posting the FDP/Workshop Event Report mails in ILUG-C in the recent times. Do not understand the apology why ? I agree. No need for apology. Posting such events will a) coax more members

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-15 Thread Asokan Pichai
On 16 September 2013 09:41, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Baskar Selvaraj bas...@linuxpert.in wrote: Dear all, My sincere apologies for posting the FDP/Workshop Event Report mails in ILUG-C in the recent times. Dear Baskar I am sad to

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-15 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Asokan Pichai paso...@gmail.com wrote: I am sad to see this. But then, your contribution is independent of any acknowledgement it receives from ilugc. Whether on behalf of or in spite of, please continue the good work. Probably it is a good idea for ilugc

Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-15 Thread Balachandran Sivakumar
Hi , On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Baskar Selvaraj bas...@linuxpert.in wrote: Dear all, My sincere apologies for posting the FDP/Workshop Event Report mails in ILUG-C in the recent times. As I came to know through Mr.Shrinivasan, the members of the ILUG-C community were against the term