Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-10-06 Thread Mohanapriya.golla
Sent from my iPod On Sep 3, 2011, at 13:59, sivakumar bharadhwaj calms...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mr. Senthil, Have we ever done (better) - when we are forced to do something with. Linux - have evolved (I feel) - not because of somebody forced us to use with ... - it was more of

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-06 Thread R Rajendhran
From: kenneth gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com To: ilugc@ae.iitm.ac.in Sent: Monday, 5 September 2011 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender On Sun, 2011-09-04 at 10:47 +0530, K.P. Senthil Kumar wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-06 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 11:44 +0530, R Rajendhran wrote: Thanks for those IIT Students which IIT students? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Read the link. You will be clarified. not clarified - I do not see anything to show that this was the work of IIT students - credit goes to FSFTN

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-05 Thread pavithran
On 5 September 2011 10:47, kenneth gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: which IIT students? quote from the first comment Srujan Kumar Executive Committee Member, FSFTN IIT Madras What you have put up is great news. However, this decision has not been made just because some IIT students

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-04 Thread srujan kumar
Dear Chandan, On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 10:47 AM, K.P. Senthil Kumar sekumar...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Chandan Gupta gupta.chand...@gmail.comwrote: I just wrote a blog post about it :) http://www.linuxcandy.com/2011/09/minister-for-it-tamil-nadu-clarifies.html I

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-04 Thread Chandan Gupta
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 12:27 PM, srujan kumar srujankuma...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Chandan, On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 10:47 AM, K.P. Senthil Kumar sekumar...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Chandan Gupta gupta.chand...@gmail.com wrote: I just wrote a blog post about it :)

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-04 Thread Kumara Guru
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Raman.P raam...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Today's The Hindu carries clarification by the Minister for IT, TN has clarified that the laptops will be loaded with BOSS by ELCOT itself. I think all of us should be happy. Raman.P blog:http://ramanchennai.wordpress.com/

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-04 Thread K.P. Senthil Kumar
I am curious to know if the Govt would also provide free Internet access to the students. If not, many would not afford to have access to Internet at all. That would also mean when they use windows, the antivirus software will not receive updates but the laptops will receive a steady supply

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-04 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Sun, 2011-09-04 at 10:47 +0530, K.P. Senthil Kumar wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Chandan Gupta gupta.chand...@gmail.comwrote: I just wrote a blog post about it :) http://www.linuxcandy.com/2011/09/minister-for-it-tamil-nadu-clarifies.html Thanks for those IIT Students

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-03 Thread sivakumar bharadhwaj
Dear Mr. Senthil, Have we ever done (better) - when we are forced to do something with. Linux - have evolved (I feel) - not because of somebody forced us to use with ... - it was more of people wanting to do more, which they are not able to (or with more difficulty) some thing ... The scene in

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-03 Thread Nallu Ignacius
Our discussions are crap till we reach out to the right people. I.e., how many people contacted the right people specified in the first few emails in the same thread On Sep 3, 2011 12:22 AM, K.P. Senthil Kumar sekumar...@gmail.com wrote: The sufferer is the students I think the sufferer will

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender [off topic]

2011-09-03 Thread Christopher Sagayam
[off topic - DO not read if you are easily offended] This 90 crore might be well spend on starving kids and kids who require medical care God forbid, What would have happened if our parents had invested all their money for OUR future health care instead of education and deprived us of our IIT

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender [off topic]

2011-09-03 Thread Arun Venkataswamy
This 90 crore might be well spend on starving kids and kids who require medical care God forbid, What would have happened if our parents had invested all their money for OUR future health care instead of education and deprived us of our IIT or BITS pilani or BE education !! citing

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender [off topic]

2011-09-03 Thread Christopher Sagayam
Yes the dying child will be saved but that child will still be one notch down in the society when compared to other so called elite children who were fortunate to have parents who could afford both health care and education. Anyways, see, this also adds to my case. We as a society is this

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-03 Thread Arun SAG
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote: I don't understand this However we did not feel that he can amend the decision., Do you mean, He cannot amend the tender, because he is not behind the tender or as he cannot amend it as it has been already out? After all

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-03 Thread Manokaran K
Just curious: Why is Red Hat not raising a hue and cry over this? After all they are a commercial entity and they are an adversely affected party! They also have the experience and clout in lobbying! regds, mano ___ ILUGC Mailing List:

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-03 Thread 0
In today's paper, there is an article on the same, although it claims the change is due to a price difference, -- http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-tamilnadu/article2419753.ece The plan to install Linux (Tamil) software has been scrapped, as per the new proposal. “We

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-03 Thread K.P. Senthil Kumar
Government's policy can be challenged in Courts. Recently, the hon'ble Supreme Court issued notice to TN Govt on the freebies as promised in the election manifesto.

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-03 Thread Raja Subramanian
On Sep 3, 2011 11:23 AM, Arun Venkataswamy arun...@gmail.com wrote: I hope the courts help in pulling out this entire thing of free laptops. +1 There's all probability that a vast majority of these laptops will end up being used for totally unrelated purposes - games, music, movies, and porn.

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-03 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Sat, 2011-09-03 at 16:23 +0530, Raja Subramanian wrote: There's all probability that a vast majority of these laptops will end up being used for totally unrelated purposes - games, music, movies, and porn. it is through these 4 purposes that people become computer literate. -- regards

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-03 Thread Shanu
FSFTN condemns Govt move to drop FOSS operating system from the free laptops. Please read http://fsftn.org/content/we-condemn-act-removing-free-software-latest-tender-free-laptop-scheme -- Thank you, Shanu S Sukoor - Please do not send me Microsoft

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-03 Thread Vamsee Kanakala
On Saturday 03 September 2011 04:23 PM, Raja Subramanian wrote: On Sep 3, 2011 11:23 AM, Arun Venkataswamyarun...@gmail.com wrote: I hope the courts help in pulling out this entire thing of free laptops. +1 There's all probability that a vast majority of these laptops will end up being used

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-03 Thread Vivek Rajagopalan
On 03-09-2011 16:31, kenneth gonsalves wrote: On Sat, 2011-09-03 at 16:23 +0530, Raja Subramanian wrote: There's all probability that a vast majority of these laptops will end up being used for totally unrelated purposes - games, music, movies, and porn. it is through these 4 purposes that

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-03 Thread Raman.P
Today's The Hindu carries clarification by the Minister for IT, TN has clarified that the laptops will be loaded with BOSS by ELCOT itself. I think all of us should be happy. Raman.P blog:http://ramanchennai.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List:

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-03 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Raman.P raam...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Today's The Hindu carries clarification by the Minister for IT, TN has clarified that the laptops will be loaded with BOSS by ELCOT itself. I think all of us should be happy.

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-03 Thread Chandan Gupta
I just wrote a blog post about it :) http://www.linuxcandy.com/2011/09/minister-for-it-tamil-nadu-clarifies.html On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay sankarshan.mukhopadh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Raman.P raam...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Today's The

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-03 Thread Nallu Ignacius
Happy to hear Off from home On Sep 3, 2011 11:05 PM, Raman.P raam...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Today's The Hindu carries clarification by the Minister for IT, TN has clarified that the laptops will be loaded with BOSS by ELCOT itself. I think all of us should be happy. Raman.P

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-03 Thread K.P. Senthil Kumar
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Chandan Gupta gupta.chand...@gmail.comwrote: I just wrote a blog post about it :) http://www.linuxcandy.com/2011/09/minister-for-it-tamil-nadu-clarifies.html Thanks for those IIT Students others who made this to happen.Without your efforts this would not

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-02 Thread Shanu
Dr. Santosh Babu is now IT Secretary. FSFTN team had a detailed discussion with him when the previous tender was released. He seems to u9nderstand the depth of issue. However we did not feel that he can amend the decision. we had handed over a detailed document explaining the advantages siting

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-02 Thread K.P. Senthil Kumar
FSFTN team had a detailed discussion with him when the previous tender was released. He seems to u9nderstand the depth of issue. However we did not feel that he can amend the decision. I think Courts can look in to the issue and amend as appropriate.

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-02 Thread Manokaran K
Usually the Communist party understands these issues better. Perhaps making a representation to Nallakannu would help!! ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-02 Thread Shanu
I think Courts can look in to the issue and amend as appropriate. I am not sure whether this can be challenged in court. This is a policy issue of the government. -- Thank you, Shanu S Sukoor - Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-02 Thread Akilan R
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Shanu shan...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure whether this can be challenged in court. This is a policy issue of the government. May be under some clause like this is not a proper tender since it blocked all but one company to begin with? -- அகிலன் (Akilan R)

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-02 Thread K.P. Senthil Kumar
I am not sure whether this can be challenged in court. This is a policy issue of the government. - Government's policy can be challenged in Courts. Recently, the hon'ble Supreme Court issued notice to TN Govt on the freebies as promised in the election manifesto.

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-02 Thread sivakumar bharadhwaj
Sir(s), I feel the one thing that can happen by challenging through court is : this tender gets delayed for atleast 6 months. I think this will help the government - particularly the C.M. of TN, since she can get more time on this Freebie, and can escape (not necessarily 'escape' ) but can get a

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-02 Thread Christopher Sagayam
The sufferer is the students It would be definetely better to do something like our Linexpert Systems - Mr. Bhaskar - where we could educate more on this to the actual users - who if they find this better, can always install Linux later, and inform the govt, for the next lot to change the specs.

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-02 Thread Arun SAG
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Shanu shan...@gmail.com wrote: FSFTN team had a detailed discussion with him when the previous tender was released. He seems to u9nderstand the depth of issue. However we did not feel that he can amend the decision. I don't understand this However we did not

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-02 Thread Raman.P
--- On Sat, 3/9/11, Akilan R akila...@gmail.com wrote: From: Akilan R akila...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender To: ILUG-C ilugc@ae.iitm.ac.in Date: Saturday, 3 September, 2011, 9:43 AM On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Shanu shan...@gmail.com

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-02 Thread Kumara Guru
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Shanu shan...@gmail.com wrote: FSFTN team had a detailed discussion with him when the previous tender was released. He seems to u9nderstand the depth of issue. However we did not feel that

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-02 Thread K.P. Senthil Kumar
The sufferer is the students I think the sufferer will comprise Students, Common man by paying more taxes ( in some way or other) , and more importantly the Linux. Why linux will suffer? It is due to the Windows comfort the students get. Since they are comfortable with one OS then they reject

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-02 Thread A.THILAKAN
Government's policy can be challenged in Courts. Recently, the hon'ble Supreme Court issued notice to TN Govt on the freebies as promised in the election manifesto.

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-02 Thread Arun Venkataswamy
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 10:51 AM, K.P. Senthil Kumar sekumar...@gmail.comwrote: forced( yes) to use and learn Linux and Linux oriented applications like openoffice etc. Majority over the period will be fan and followers of Linux and supported applications than Windows. Any kind of

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-02 Thread Arun Venkataswamy
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote: Do you not feel that your tax money is spent towards Linux in that case ? ( or well, more onto open source ) rather than contributing it all into the select pockets of specific vendors [Off Topic] [and nothing

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-02 Thread sivakumar bharadhwaj
Dear Mr. Senthil, Have we ever done (better) - when we are forced to do something with. Linux - have evolved (I feel) - not because of somebody forced us to use with ... - it was more of people wanting to do more, which they are not able to (or with more difficulty) some thing ... The scene in

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-01 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 08/31/2011 06:33 PM, Krishnan Sethuraman wrote: Hi I feel we should concentrate more Linux than on Govt's stand. Do you not feel that your tax money is spent towards Linux in that case ? ( or well, more onto open source ) rather than contributing it all into the select pockets of

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-01 Thread Srinivasan Sundararajan
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/8/31 రహ్మానుద్దీన్ షేక్ nani1o...@gmail.com Can we do anything for this? http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc Yes, You can send an email to Dr. Santhosh babu IAS chairman of ELCOT. The contact

[Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-08-31 Thread Arun SAG
Hi, According to http://www.muktware.com/news/2382 , TN Govt has scrapped the old tender and issued a new tender to buy only Microsoft products. -- Arun S.A.G http://zer0c00l.in/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-08-31 Thread రహ్మానుద్దీన్ షేక్
Can we do anything for this? On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, According to http://www.muktware.com/news/2382 , TN Govt has scrapped the old tender and issued a new tender to buy only Microsoft products. -- Arun S.A.G http://zer0c00l.in/

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-08-31 Thread Akilan R
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote: According to http://www.muktware.com/news/2382 , TN Govt has scrapped the old tender and issued a new tender to buy only Microsoft products. Too bad. Also a close reading shows that not only they removed Linux dual boot, but

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-08-31 Thread Arun SAG
2011/8/31 రహ్మానుద్దీన్ షేక్ nani1o...@gmail.com Can we do anything for this? http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc Yes, You can send an email to Dr. Santhosh babu IAS chairman of ELCOT. The contact numbers and email addresses are here in this document

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-08-31 Thread Christopher Sagayam
Also I hope you already know about these avenues for redressal http://rti.india.gov.in/rti_direct_complaint_lodging.php http://pgportal.gov.in/Grievance.aspx You can be as anonymous or as detailed as you want Chris ___ ILUGC Mailing List:

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-08-31 Thread K.P. Senthil Kumar
TN Govt has scrapped the old tender and issued a new tender to buy only Microsoft products. Surprising to note that ELCOT promotes Open Source. http://www.elcot.in/open_source.php . Why Elcot changed their stance of using Dual boot OS to Windows only may have other reasons apart from the

Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-08-31 Thread Krishnan Sethuraman
Hi I feel we should concentrate more Linux than on Govt's stand. On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:12 PM, K.P. Senthil Kumar sekumar...@gmail.comwrote: TN Govt has scrapped the old tender and issued a new tender to buy only Microsoft products. Surprising to note that ELCOT promotes Open