Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread PJ
> On 09-May-07, at 10:38 AM, PJ wrote: > > > BSD style licencing is better than most, but such licences have had a > > role in helping MS Windows to its current position (which is why Bill > > Gates favours them). Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > and which is why apache is running

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 09-May-07, at 1:49 PM, PJ wrote: > Other less-established but important projects under any BSD style > licence are > still at risk. name some. or name at least one or two (stick to those without lucky and talented developers because we have already established that bsd +luck+talent != da

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread PJ
On 09-May-07, at 1:49 PM, PJ wrote: > > Other less-established but important projects under any BSD style > > licence are > > still at risk. Kenneth Gonsalves writes: > name some. or name at least one or two (stick to those without lucky > and talented developers because we have already estab

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
PJ wrote: > Kenneth Gonsalves writes: > >> name some. or name at least one or two (stick to those without lucky >> and talented developers because we have already established that bsd >> +luck+talent != danger) > > > 2. Use your clairvoyance to figure out which project is going to be unlucky

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 09-May-07, at 5:34 PM, PJ wrote: >> name some. or name at least one or two (stick to those without lucky >> and talented developers because we have already established that bsd >> +luck+talent != danger) > > Sure. > > I just need a list of names of projects that are important && that > will be

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread Raj Mathur
On Wednesday 09 May 2007 18:15, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: > [snip] > I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind > your theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk. Too > many people throw the "BSD networking stack" as an example whenever > this discussion comes

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 09-May-07, at 7:15 PM, Raj Mathur wrote: > On Wednesday 09 May 2007 18:15, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: >> [snip] >> I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind >> your theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk. Too >> many people throw the "BSD networking s

Re: [ilugd] mounting problems

2007-05-09 Thread Subhasis Ray
Hi Hemant, This may be too late a reply, (you might have already found out the solution) but still here it is man page for mount says "Normally, only the superuser can mount file systems. However, when *fstab* contains the *user* option on a line, anybody can mount the corresponding system.

Re: [ilugd] Dell joins Microsoft, Novell in Linux pact

2007-05-09 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Lokesh Bhog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How does this pact affect Linux? > Bad for Microsoft's FUD campaign against Gnu/linux. According to groklaw, Dell purchased licenses for Suse enterprise Linux from Microsoft, NOT from Novell. That means, well, M$ is licensing the gnu/linux OS; which M$

Re: [ilugd] Dell joins Microsoft, Novell in Linux pact

2007-05-09 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Mahesh T. Pai wrote: > That means, well, M$ is licensing the gnu/linux OS; which M$ cannot do > unless it conforms to the GNU GPL, which means the viral clause in GPL > applies to M$ patents!!! Microsoft cannot change the license of GPL software. I am sure there lawyers understand this more than a

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Raj Mathur wrote: > On Wednesday 09 May 2007 18:15, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: >> [snip] >> I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind >> your theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk. Too >> many people throw the "BSD networking stack" as an example whenever

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread PJ
Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > so, in short, your statement that many important BSD projects are in > danger is not based on any factual knowledge or research. I've told you a principle that has been shown to hold true (viz. danger of BSD projects being usurped for all projects

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread PJ
Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Wednesday 09 May 2007 18:15, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: > > [snip] > > I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind > > your theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk. Too > > many people throw the "BSD networking

[ilugd] [Commercial] Fwd: [Reader-list] researcher req. for survey of educational software in market.

2007-05-09 Thread G Karunakar
OT but fwd to anyone interested. -- Forwarded message -- From: Guntupalli Karunakar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: May 10, 2007 7:40 AM Subject: [Reader-list] researcher req. for survey of educational software in market. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Sarai is doing a survey of educational

Re: [ilugd] Dell joins Microsoft, Novell in Linux pact

2007-05-09 Thread lawgon
Quoting "Mahesh T. Pai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > unless it conforms to the GNU GPL, which means the viral clause in GPL since when did GPL become viral? kg ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/il

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread lawgon
Quoting Sandip Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Raj Mathur wrote: > > On Wednesday 09 May 2007 18:15, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: > >> [snip] > >> I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind > >> your theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk. Too > >> many

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread lawgon
Quoting PJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > so, in short, your statement that many important BSD projects are in > > danger is not based on any factual knowledge or research. > > I've told you a principle that has been shown to hold true (viz. danger o

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread lawgon
Quoting PJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > On Wednesday 09 May 2007 18:15, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: > > > [snip] > > > I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind > > > your theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk.

Re: [ilugd] Dell joins Microsoft, Novell in Linux pact

2007-05-09 Thread vivek khurana
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Quoting "Mahesh T. Pai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > unless it conforms to the GNU GPL, which means the > viral clause in GPL > > since when did GPL become viral? > Since its inception. regrds VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they hav

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread PJ
> > On Wednesday 09 May 2007 18:15, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: > >> I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind > >> your theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk. Too > >> many people throw the "BSD networking stack" as an example whenever > >> this discussi

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread PJ
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > FTP is software? I always thought it was a protocol > Sigh. Frederick, I know you're smarter than this. You are being deliberately dense here, which makes rational discussion hard. For: FTP read: The implementation of the FTP protocol in the software named ft

[ilugd] Hindi typing using scim

2007-05-09 Thread Vikas Rawal
I am experimenting with SCIM to type a document in Hindi. I have ubuntu 7.04 on my machine. SCIM is installed and working. I can type the alphabet without any problem. Could somebody tell me how to type half-letters. Also, I don't know where to find the documentation if there is any. Vikas _

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
> You are being deliberately dense here, which makes rational discussion hard. > > For: > > FTP > > read: > > The implementation of the FTP protocol in the software named ftp.exe on win98 > for > example. > >> and how did that affect the FTP protocol? > > It did not (AFAIK) and I did not cl

Re: [ilugd] Dell joins Microsoft, Novell in Linux pact

2007-05-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 10-May-07, at 9:57 AM, vivek khurana wrote: >> Quoting "Mahesh T. Pai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> unless it conforms to the GNU GPL, which means the >> viral clause in GPL >> >> since when did GPL become viral? >> > > Since its inception. does RMS know? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associat

Re: [ilugd] Hindi typing using scim

2007-05-09 Thread आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 11:17:21AM +0530, Vikas Rawal wrote: |I am experimenting with SCIM to type a document in Hindi. I have |ubuntu 7.04 on my machine. SCIM is installed and working. I can type |the alphabet without any problem. Could somebody tell me |how to type half-letters. Also, I don't kn

Re: [ilugd] Hindi typing using scim

2007-05-09 Thread मयंक जैन ( makuchaku)
On 5/10/07, आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 11:17:21AM +0530, Vikas Rawal wrote: > |I am experimenting with SCIM to type a document in Hindi. I have > |ubuntu 7.04 on my machine. SCIM is installed and working. I can type > |the alphabet without any prob