Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-17 Thread Mehul Ved
On Jan 10, 2008 11:01 AM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, I haven't even looked at the CD yet :) No Skype here, will test out Ekiga when someone offers a video chat. I believe kopete supports webcam for yahoo and msn messengers, if you use them.

Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-15 Thread Karanbir Singh
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: deah boy, my secretary has been using wp 5.1 from 1989 and refuses to shift from it. She started out on a dos box, then doze 3.1, then So, we have it - your single usecase scenario for Linux is your secy's document typing habit. -- Karanbir Singh :

Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:12:41 +0530, Sriram J [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On 1/14/08, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:43:32 +0530, Sriram J [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Does the idea of open source take precedence over usability. but If you find free

Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-13 Thread Sriram J
On Jan 12, 2008 7:38 PM, Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sriram J wrote: Can some one tell me what is the positioning of linux as an operating system. There isnt one. There does not need to be one. Its used on devices as mobile phones to the largest supercomputer in the world. I

Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:43:32 +0530, Sriram J [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Does the idea of open source take precedence over usability. but If you find free software is not as usable as you would wish it to be, you have the opportunity to improve the free software in question by

Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-13 Thread Sriram J
On 1/14/08, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:43:32 +0530, Sriram J [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Does the idea of open source take precedence over usability. but If you find free software is not as usable as you would wish it to be, you have the

Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-13 Thread Anant Narayanan
On 14-Jan-08, at 1:12 PM, Sriram J wrote: So i am back to my original question Does the idea of open source take precedence over usability. It's simply a matter of personal preference / ideals. I know people who would not use proprietary software even if it out-performs or is more usable

Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-12 Thread Anoop John
is it for the general users who want an alternative for windows or the few fakirs[1] who put ideology above all and are not willing to compromise at any cost. Ultimately - yes - the general user. For the fakirs - absolutely yes :). GNU/Linux distros has almost reached a state where it works

Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-12 Thread Raj Mathur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 12 Jan 2008, Sriram J wrote: [snip] Can some one tell me what is the positioning of linux as an operating system. who are target audience/consumers of linux supposed to be. is it for the general users who want an alternative for

Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-12 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 12-Jan-08, at 12:42 PM, Raj Mathur wrote: i myself back in the days had to switch to windows because i bought an unsupported video card and did not have the money to buy an new one. The reason you may face issues with some hardware with Linux is that the OS grew organically, not

Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
Sriram J wrote: Can some one tell me what is the positioning of linux as an operating system. There isnt one. There does not need to be one. Its used on devices as mobile phones to the largest supercomputer in the world. I think what you need to do is read up a bit on what Linux is and the

Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-12 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 12-Jan-08, at 7:34 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: you mean other operating systems were not developed by programmers? Or that the current developers of Linux are not programmers? Other operating systems are not designed by programmrs, no. For the mainstream player definitions of 'Other'. Most

Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On 12-Jan-08, at 7:34 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: you mean other operating systems were not developed by programmers? Or that the current developers of Linux are not programmers? Other operating systems are not designed by programmrs, no. For the mainstream player

Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-12 Thread Vikas Rawal
WHICH MAKE IS THIS CAMERA PL. TELL ME AND IF POSSIBLE SHOP NAME ALSO . The make is Quantum. Raj's first post on this thread gave detailed specifications. It is widely available from any number of shops in Nehru Place. Vikas ___ ilugd

Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-12 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 13-Jan-08, at 6:26 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: use and icons etc, I remember redhat 5.x had a much better desktop and was much easier to use than the current kde and gnome desktops - and nothing wrong with the icons either. Redhat 5 ? as in from the late 90's ? Surely that your personal

Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: redhat 5 had a package manager - yes, graphical. It had linuxconf - from setting up aliases to ethernet cards, users blah blah. Great Too bad it does not install on modern day hardware :D Also, you seem to think Linuxconf from those days was the best way to do

Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-12 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 13-Jan-08, at 8:56 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: redhat 5 had a package manager - yes, graphical. It had linuxconf - from setting up aliases to ethernet cards, users blah blah. Great Too bad it does not install on modern day hardware :D Also, you seem to think

Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-11 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Anand Shankar wrote: On Jan 10, 2008 10:08 AM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bought a webcam yesterday, thought I'd share the experience... Unfortunately the webcams that seem to work well with Linux (at least according to Google) seem to be pretty high priced -- Rs 4000+. Thats

Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-11 Thread Sriram J
I burnt my hand recently after buying a $90 Logitech quickcam pro or something. As my bad luck turned out, this needed the exact driver which was pulled out from the Linux kernel in a big public spat [1]. My bad, I should have checked before that flash of impulsive buying. I had to donate

Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-10 Thread Anand Shankar
On Jan 10, 2008 10:08 AM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bought a webcam yesterday, thought I'd share the experience... Unfortunately the webcams that seem to work well with Linux (at least according to Google) seem to be pretty high priced -- Rs 4000+. Thats right - This has been

Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-10 Thread Raj Mathur
On Thursday 10 Jan 2008, Anand Shankar wrote: On Jan 10, 2008 10:08 AM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] BTW, note that all webcams reporting USB ID 0ac8:303b aren't the same. Some will work, some may not, so be sure to test your cam before you buy for use with Linux. Who will

Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-10 Thread Gopal Murarka
WHICH MAKE IS THIS CAMERA PL. TELL ME AND IF POSSIBLE SHOP NAME ALSO . REGARDS GOPAL On Jan 10, 2008 11:01 AM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 10 Jan 2008, Vikas Rawal wrote: Cost: Rs 650 Just for the record, last week I bought it from

[ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-09 Thread Raj Mathur
Bought a webcam yesterday, thought I'd share the experience... I'd given a long list of supported webcam models to my friendly neighbourhood hardware pusher, Amit Kalra. Unfortunately the webcams that seem to work well with Linux (at least according to Google) seem to be pretty high priced --

Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-09 Thread Vikas Rawal
Cost: Rs 650 Just for the record, last week I bought it from Nehru Place for Rs. 475. It works pretty much straight out of the box. Works fine with skype. With Ekiga, there was some lag in the video but I have not tested it much. In fact the driver CD provided with the

Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-09 Thread Raj Mathur
On Thursday 10 Jan 2008, Vikas Rawal wrote: Cost: Rs 650 Just for the record, last week I bought it from Nehru Place for Rs. 475. OK, if I'd bought it from anyone except Amit I'd be screaming at him now. However I haven't had to spend a single paisa maintaining my