Looks like Spamhaus had it coming. We've all experienced a
blacklister who didn't listen to reason. They set a new standard for
irresponsibility from the looks of it.
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Hmm, the official ASSP website states the following:
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END QUOTE
That web site is YEARS out of date. The originating developer left
the project and apparently took the keys to the web site ftp door with
him.
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I use ASSP as a replacement for Declude. It works just fine in front
of SmarterMail or IMail, and probably would do so in front of any mail
server. The only thing I do to the mail server behind ASSP is disable
its antispam features as they are no longer necessary. Saves
resources.
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On 6/21/06, Dave Beckstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
SorryI meant "Mark" :)
No its 'Matt' :-)
I understand Bayesian filtering won't work for everybody. perhaps I
am lucky, with a fairly diverse if not particularly large bunch of
users (about 250) spanning a variety of commercial and pu
On 6/21/06, Dave Beckstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I installed Declude with Sniffer and spent about a day setting up the
filters. I hardly ever have to touch it and it works very well.
...
I installed ASSP then spent several months training it.
Funny. I had the reverse experience. I ha
On 6/21/06, Chris Moody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I do believe there is
someone on the list that is using ASSP in an ISP environment. I can't think
of their name, but they may chime in.
That would be me :-)
The only issue I have seen with ASSP over the last two years is it
does not have per-u
On 6/9/06, Matt Warren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Just wondering what other fellow iMailers thoughts are on ASSP.
Its phenomenal. Once you train it (which does require a fair bit of
effort on your part since you have to wade thru FP's for about two
weeks) it is completely hands-free. No maint
ASSP. Open source and free. Needs lots of TLC to set up and none
once its learning period is over.
http://assp.sourceforge.net
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If, when you clean up your folders, you move ASSP mistakes into the
/error/spam and error/notspam folders then they are counted double and
ASSP learns doubly quick. If the sender is using a spam helo then
they'll die unless you whitelist the sender manually. I've got a
couple dozen of those.
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On 12/21/05, Matt Lemke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In your implementation of Greylisting do you delay all mail for the
> recommended 1
> hour before allowing delivery?
> I am looking for a solid solution to these dictionary attacks, but wonder
> what end users
> think about this type of delay.
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On 12/20/05, Jason Loven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> FYI..I'm running v1.1.1 so I don't know much about the new features in> v1.1.2 but if they improvements are of the same quality as the existing
> product I have to believe it can only make a great product better.Check out greylisting.
http://pro
I currently run 103 domains thru mine. No problems at all. In fact
I've been amazed at how well it has handled the fact that I have a
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On 12/20/05, Bill Puetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What concerned me was the author's odd perspective on business. I instantly
> imagined that a lot of initial contacts from prospective customers would be
> blocked, and I could never afford that. Since you have experience with
> ASSP, am I off-
ASSP 1.12 (assp.sourceforge.net) does a marvelous job of this via its
new greylisting feature. My daily incoming traffic is down 60%
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Enom bought it on 11 November. Look in the upper right hand corner of
the site for the link entitled "Why am I seeing this web site?"
Not pretty. Figure they will want at least a few hundred bucks. At least.
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On 11/9/05, Mike Biddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think there is some confusion about the product. For those not aware,
> there are companies that provide manual spam filtering and we all understand
> anti virus. Obviously it costs money to license that stuff. I am not aware
> of anything that
On 11/9/05, Jerod M. Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Even better:
> http://www.servertastic.com/store/product.asp?numRecordPosition=1&P_ID=125#prices
There is a web host named Crystaltech that has a variety of dedicated
servers available. They have a unit available for $79/month --
admittedl
On 11/9/05, Dave Beckstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I still lurk on this list as sometimes there are general email topics that I
> find useful.
I have exactly the same story. I was approached a few months back
with an offer to sell me a SA and I declined. To put trust back into
a company aft
There's always livevault.com. Great presentation, although its a
little technical. You should be able to wade through it.
http://backuptrauma.com
I work on a 250gb drive the size of a paperback book now. When I
go on the road the drive goes with me. A portable USB HD of
minimal size should be
On 7/23/05, Mike Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Were these all spam emails?
Yes, assuming you had Declude set to move spams there rather than
delete them. Check your config file.
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Set it up fresh, or physically copy the installation and 'upgrade' the
copy. Throw it away if the powers don't want it.
If this becomes your live email server, though, you'll lose whatever
mail comes in during the eval period. Which is why you should test on
a test machine in a testing environme
On 7/21/05, Elliott Bujan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am interested to know as well, and why.
I haven't stopped by the Ipswitch site for awhile. I see there's now
an ICS ISP/EDU edition that their feature comparison matrix shows to
basically be IMail. The unlimited user version is only Six T
ASSP remains a viable alternative whose chief strong point is its
hands-off nature once you've trained it. Its a pain for the first two
weeks but runs itself after that. Also grabs a lot of viruses and
forbidden scripts. http://assp.sourceforge.net
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and I don't want to pile on another layer.
PHP doesn't seem to be a big hit on Windows boxes.
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>1) Do you currently Run IIS or Apache? If so, which one?
IIS
>2) If IMail required a web server, which would you prefer: a proprietary
>web server shipped with IMail, IIS or Apache?
IIS. Assuming that it could run alongside existing IIS sites.
>3) Would it be a problem if IMail required IIS?
I've heard some weirdo stories like this, but its something you have
to just deal with. Yes 'something' should be done and, if you want to
start a grass-roots campaign or something, more power to you. Or just
skip it and save yourself the angina attacks that are otherwise in
your future.
When em
On 4/18/05, Doug Traylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >From Ipswitch's web site, "The e-mail lists are unmoderated, but we do
> read them and will occasionally send our own comments.
The key part being "...we do read them...". I'd say that either 1)
They don't read them, or 2) whoever does read
Nowadays I only use my Imail license as a dedicated smtp engine for
ColdFusion-generated mail. I migrated to SmarterMail to do all of my
forward-facing client mail stuff. If you want things like ODBC
support you're not going to get it with SM.
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> I know for AOL you can register as a bulk sender to avoid the time/count
> trap.
Yeah, but thats just AOL :-(. I've recommended my clients go thru
that, and insist they do things like put physical addresses on emails,
and link to an instant-remover I've built (i.e. CA
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:25:18 -0500, Darin Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> More important than volume is the legitimacy of your email. If it's a legit
> opt-in newsletter/mailing, not a scavenge for email addresses... or
> "partner"-type email blast where the recipient did not ask you specifically
Trickle the mailpieces out slowly from whatever system you are using
to build the emails. It likely will involve custom programming to
build such a system but they aren't difficult to do, and they take you
completely under the radar of the frequency filters you are
describing.
Its generally not a
GoDaddy, thru their reseller arm of Wild West Domains. Best reseller
program out there, eNom included.
I don't know if I would say they are wonderful. More like "they are
the best of a bad lot". All of these guys have issues with ethics, or
software glitches. I have to say GoDaddy/WWD has neve
A. Clausen wrote:
> If we start seeing dopes leaving 587 as an open
> relay, then yes, perhaps someday those dopes will screw it for the rest of
> us.
Thats exactly what I was alluding to.
I will say that all of my dsl customers have had zero trouble with
2525. However one lone customer on dialu
> Just curious, why not the Message Submission Port 587?
I use 2525 as well. Just something I pulled out of a hat, so to speak.
Can't help but wonder how long it will take for 587 to become an
issue. Maybe 2525 will last longer. Or not.
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You cam map smtp to whatever port you please, so long as everyone who
tries to send mail via your server knows what port you are using and
has this set in their copy of Outlook. There's the rub.
Unfortunately Imail has no way to listen to two ports so in the case
of the IMail server you will have
Looks like the lid has come off as everyone with a gmail acct now has
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As a small ISP, SmarterMail worked very well for us. Clients love the
wysiwyg web mail. antispam is essentially worthless but Declude has
announced availability of a beta for SM, and my ASSP gateway works
fine in front of *any* mail server. SM's management of multiple
domains leaves a lot fo be
oach.
Well put. This is what you expect from low-lifes on the web. The
earlier 'scumbag' comment is pretty strong but applicable. This is
the sort of activity that points to a sinking ship.
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4% of incoming mail. Your
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A unique situation that would affect anyone.
And does anyone have a link to that a/v update rating that some
(German?) testing firm ran? Found Symantec (Imail's scanner) to be
almost at the bottom of the barrel in terms of quick response to new
a/v threats. Something like 26 hours versus F-Prot&#
Merak *is* a Czech company.
Icewarp.com is the Czech parent and developer. merakmailserver.com is
the U.S. distributor; the one who provides U.S. support. There are a
couple of other sites but those are the heavy hitters.
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in at minutes into one that takes a few
seconds.
I bought the pro version because the standard one was so cheap I
wanted the developer to have a few extra bucks. Really bailed me out
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thats me but i'm small. maybe 10k daily and assp throws back 80%
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Know
o train it. So figure you'll spend a
week or so with emails set to "store with the subject as filename" and
paw around looking for FP's in the daily intake. Once thats done, you
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e but it did indeed open up my eyes.
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I think that because of the way they handled themselves over the last
couple of weeks they are going to have to work very, very hard just to
keep their heads above water let alone climb out of the pool. We can
all guess at whats going to happen to them but only time will tell.
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going to jump in the same direction.
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didn't fund R&D let alone touching support).
4. Imail is at its end-of-life in the sense that no new copies will be
sold. If you ever add another mail server you will have to buy
something else, and support it.
5. I don't trust the company. Did I mention that one already?
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sign to move
on, once the shock and anger wore off.
Now I'm ticked that I'll have a lot more setup time on a new server
next week, as I learn new software, which I hate doing. But I'll be
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>If you're your one of those damn republicans please prompt shoot yourself if
>Kerry wins.
> If Bush wins well we will just have to put up with his stupid crap...
Speaking of stupid crap, there's this garbage. Bugger off ALL of you
morons who are on this subject here.
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Visnetic is Merak repackaged. Look at their admin areas side by side
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Yes please keep us posted. I'm plugging in a Merak install within a
week or so and I'll report what I learn as well.
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Serv-U. I use the secure version, myself, coupled to FTPVoyager for
very tight integration. Great for scheduled backups.
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scanner and hourly updates that have always worked so well.
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. I no
longer trust Ipswitch further than I could throw the proverbial grand
piano. Your company's tactics can be described under the most
charitable characterization as foolish and unethical. At worst:
dishonest and unlawful. Either way we can no longer do business
together as a result.
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2000 pieces daily. Not much more than that. I've played with that SM
just a bit but its an older version. Probably not representative of
the current v2.x.
Merak seems to be the big kid on the block and SmarterMail is the
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probably within the next 30 days for a client's server I'm managing.
Declude Virus would have been on my buy list. Now the money is
probably going to go to Merak and I'll use an open source product for
spam/virus.
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A market other than a decent percentage of your current customer base,
apparently. I for one need a mail server and reasonably priced
andtispam and a/v. Imail has just priced itself out of the market
with add-ons that are, speaking personally, worthless to my needs as
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user-defined white- and blacklists, includes antivirus (I still use
Declude Junkmail but I guess that has to change) and has just
introduced a rudimentary RBL feature. Me personally I have never
needed more than the Bayes filter and the HELO check that also is in
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P gave him on his dedicated server account:
SmarterMail. Not impressed with it myself but Imail is now dead to
me.
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Russ wrote:
> Let me know if this works for you as well.
Yes!. I can get mail now. No more Outlook for me in the office. Thanks!
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ws Explorer to restore files..
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Relaying for one, internal-to-your-network IP should be perfectly
safe. I've been doing that for years with ColdFusion-generated email,
although CF now supports auth as well.
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Not a direct answer to your question, but related to the issue: For
maintenance I run a script on my Imail spool folder and delete
anything more than X days old. Otherwise I have to do it manually,
which is no fun.
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reasonable than 500. I think I bought mine
from CDW last time.
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Well, good luck Marc. I have to say I'm a bit envious, as it seems I
have zero time for stuff like expanding my horizons these days. I'd
like nothing more than 3-5 servers to play with to test stuff like
clustering, *n*x, slaying the latest Oracle dragon etc.
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dering the customer service issues that are go with this if you
are an ISP.
Just a thought that admittedly doesn't address your core question...
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h I'd argue
that the CF-Talk list is in pretty good shape, albeit still missing
some bright stars.
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Dan Foxley wrote:
> Is Imail going to be added to the new forums?
Interesting omission. I wonder what the deal is with that? The
honesty/frankness level around here can be a tad brutal I suppose. A
shame if thats the reason. I prefer forums.
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d the blacklist there to see
what happens. Imail antispam reads the blacklist just fine when its
in the imail root folder... from the administrator, at least.
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William,
Thx for the info. It may be so little spam is getting thru ASSP that
I don't have enough to go on here. Still, it seems mighty strange
that I get initializations in the log and then it catches nothing
after three days. :-(
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I need to figure out. What does it take to make this go? It worked
fine (such as it was) before. Do have some combo of settings here
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is from domains that are
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n an external system, is a mighty short list. Still if you use
CF you can use this as the basis to build your own supplementer. It
doesn't bother with a dupe check as, again, I only have a few entries.
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uck getting Imail to start its
anti-spam service back up again (see earlier post w/details). Very
odd, that.
This will let me at least fire up *something* right away.
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William,
In ASSP, I only see a place to enter a list of blacklisted domain
names. How do you get it to look to an external file? I&#
andon
Imail's anti-spam system. Its amazing that they still haven't gotten
something so simple right yet.
How tough would it be for Ipswitch to hire an intern to code a
rinky-dink whitelister for a few bags of Doritos and a 12-pack?
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Yup. The unit in question is a vaio desktop. My own vaio laptop has
O/S disks, but thats an old win2k model. We'll see. bah. was hoping
for a magic cmdline switch or something to tell me where the XP
'format' install option is.
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wanted was a good old-fashioned
reformat. Or if I could fdisk the thing to fool the XP installer into
going fresh, that would be fine as well.
Assuming there is such a thing as fdisk these days ... :-(
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mCop's reputation severely
around these parts.
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> Spyware Blaster 3.1 claims to prevent spyware from installing in the first
> place.
The new Spybot will do the same thing now. However, it isn't up to
the task of removing coolwebsearch permanently. You have to do that
yourself via instructions like the ones posted.
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ince it
is effectively not functional yet. Still, seeing it run in Netscape
was quite a treat.
And because I *know* some of you are wondering... that name is an
acronym of the project leader's initials. :-)
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a
specialized mailer tool that I built. I can tell you how to do it in
ColdFusion fairly easily.
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to get a little fancier.
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Outlook Express, Outlook, Netscape Messenger, Opera messaging, Eudora,
Pegasus Mail. Lots of others.
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ent a message to a freemail account. It
arrived a few seconds later.
No gaurantee that this will work with Cox, but my general assumption
would be that the extra info xmitted for the auth will simply be
ignored.
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sibly can, and count
yourself extremely lucky you haven't been compromised or blacklisted
by the community as an open relay.
Cheers,
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t. Not as
convenient as just sending mail, but its an acceptable substitute on a
server where I try to discourage reliance on web mail.
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e original problem? Again, sorry for missing the start of
this.
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