Request To Advance:

2012-06-15 Thread Bob Hinden
Brian & Ralph, On behalf of the 6MAN WG, the chairs request the advancement of: Title : Duplicate Address Detection Proxy Author(s) : Fabio Costa Xavier Pougnard Hongyu Li Filename: draft-ietf-6man

Request To Advance:

2012-05-16 Thread Bob Hinden
Brian & Ralph, On behalf of the 6MAN WG, the chairs request the advancement of: Title : Default Address Selection for Internet Protocol version 6 (IPv6) Author(s) : Dave Thaler Richard Draves Arifumi Matsumoto

Request To Advance:

2012-04-27 Thread Bob Hinden
Brian & Ralph, On behalf of the 6MAN WG, the chairs request the advancement of: Title : The Line Identification Destination Option Author(s) : Suresh Krishnan Alan Kavanagh Balazs Varga S

Request To Advance: draft-ietf-6man-3627-historic-01.txt

2012-01-03 Thread Brian Haberman
Jari & Ralph, On behalf of the 6MAN Working Group, the chairs request the advancement of: Title : RFC3627 to Historic status Author(s) : Wesley George Filename : draft-ietf-6man-3627-historic-01.txt Pages : 4 Date : 2011-12-19 as an Informational docume

Request To Advance: draft-ietf-6man-exthdr-05.txt

2011-11-04 Thread Brian Haberman
Jari & Ralph, On behalf of the 6MAN Working Group, the chairs request the advancement of: Title : An uniform format for IPv6 extension headers Author(s) : Suresh Krishnan James Woodyatt Erik Kline James Hoagland

Re: Request To Advance: draft-ietf-6man-flow-3697bis-04.txt

2011-06-06 Thread Brian E Carpenter
For the AD's information - the suggested hash algorithm in Appendix A definitely needs to be revised. It isn't normative so it can be taken care of a little later, along with any AD comments. Regards Brian Carpenter On 2011-06-07 02:37, Brian Haberman wrote: > Jari & Ralph, > On behalf of

Request To Advance: draft-ietf-6man-flow-3697bis-04.txt

2011-06-06 Thread Brian Haberman
Jari & Ralph, On behalf of the 6MAN Working Group, the chairs request the advancement of: Title : IPv6 Flow Label Specification Author(s) : Shane Amante Brian Carpenter Sheng Jiang Jarno Rajahalme Filename : draft-ietf-6ma

Request To Advance: draft-ietf-6man-flow-update-06.txt

2011-06-06 Thread Brian Haberman
Jari & Ralph, On behalf of the 6MAN Working Group, the chairs request the advancement of: Title : Rationale for update to the IPv6 flow label specification Author(s) : Shane Amante Brian Carpenter Sheng Jiang Filename : dr

Request To Advance:

2011-05-25 Thread Bob Hinden
Jari & Ralph, On behalf of the 6MAN WG, the chairs request the advancement of: Title : IPv6 Node Requirements Author(s) : Ed Jankiewicz, John Loughney, Thomas Narten Filename: draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis-10.txt Pages : 31

Re: Request To Advance:

2011-03-30 Thread Jari Arkko
Got it. Thanks. jari Brian Haberman kirjoitti: Jari & Ralph, On behalf of the 6MAN WG, the chairs request the advancement of: Title : RPL Option for Carrying RPL Information in Data-Plane Datagrams Author(s) : J. Hui, J. Vasseur Filename : draft-ietf-6

Request To Advance:

2011-03-30 Thread Brian Haberman
Jari & Ralph, On behalf of the 6MAN WG, the chairs request the advancement of: Title : An IPv6 Routing Header for Source Routes with RPL Author(s) : J. Hui, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-6man-rpl-routing-header-03.txt Pages : 19 Date : 2011-03-29 as a Pr

Request To Advance:

2011-03-30 Thread Brian Haberman
Jari & Ralph, On behalf of the 6MAN WG, the chairs request the advancement of: Title : RPL Option for Carrying RPL Information in Data-Plane Datagrams Author(s) : J. Hui, J. Vasseur Filename : draft-ietf-6man-rpl-option-03.txt Pages : 14 Date

Re: Request To Advance:

2010-12-16 Thread Jari Arkko
Thanks. I will review it and move along. Jari Bob Hinden kirjoitti: Jari & Ralph, On behalf of the 6MAN WG, the chairs request the advancement of: Title : Using 127-bit IPv6 Prefixes on Inter-Router Links Author(s) : M. Kohno, et al. Filename: d

Request To Advance:

2010-12-16 Thread Bob Hinden
Jari & Ralph, On behalf of the 6MAN WG, the chairs request the advancement of: Title : Using 127-bit IPv6 Prefixes on Inter-Router Links Author(s) : M. Kohno, et al. Filename: draft-ietf-6man-prefixlen-p2p-01.txt Pages : 9

Request To Advance:

2010-06-08 Thread Bob Hinden
Jari & Ralph, On behalf of the 6MAN WG, the chairs request the advancement of: Title : IPv6 Router Advertisement Options for DNS Configuration RFC 5006-bis Author(s) : S. Park, et al. Filename: draft-ietf-6man-dns-options-bis-02.txt Pages

Request To Advance:

2010-02-05 Thread Brian Haberman
Jari & Ralph, On behalf of the 6MAN WG, the chairs request the advancement of: Title : IPv6 Subnet Model: the Relationship between Links and Subnet Prefixes Author(s) : H. Singh, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-6man-ipv6-subnet-model-07.txt Pages : 13 Date

Re: Request To Advance:

2009-12-21 Thread Jari Arkko
Got it. Thanks. Jari Bob Hinden kirjoitti: Jari & Ralph, On behalf of the 6MAN WG, the chairs request the advancement of: Title : A Recommendation for IPv6 Address Text Representation Author(s) : S. Kawamura, M. Kawashima Filename: draft-ietf-6

Request To Advance:

2009-12-21 Thread Bob Hinden
Jari & Ralph, On behalf of the 6MAN WG, the chairs request the advancement of: Title : A Recommendation for IPv6 Address Text Representation Author(s) : S. Kawamura, M. Kawashima Filename: draft-ietf-6man-text-addr-representation-03.txt Page

Request To Advance:

2009-12-21 Thread Bob Hinden
Jari & Ralph, On behalf of the 6MAN WG, the chairs request the advancement of: Title : IANA Allocation Guidelines for the IPv6 Routing Header Author(s) : J. Arkko, S. Bradner Filename: draft-ietf-6man-iana-routing-header-00.txt Pages

Request To Advance:

2009-10-16 Thread Brian Haberman
Jari & Ralph, On behalf of the 6MAN WG, the chairs request the advancement of: Title : Handling of overlapping IPv6 fragments Author(s) : S. Krishnan Filename : draft-ietf-6man-overlap-fragment-03.txt Pages : 7 Date : 2009-07-03 as a Proposed Standard. A 6MAN W

Request To Advance:

2008-11-05 Thread Brian Haberman
Jari & Mark, On behalf of the 6MAN WG, the chairs request the advancement of: Title : Reserved IPv6 Interface Identifiers Author(s) : S. Krishnan Filename : draft-ietf-6man-reserved-iids-01.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2008-07-14 as a proposed standard. A 6M

Request To Advance:

2008-01-22 Thread Brian Haberman
All, I erroneously left the mailing list off this request. Regards, Brian Original Message Subject: Request To Advance: Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:42:38 -0500 From: Brian Haberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jari Arkko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Townsley <[

Re: Request to Advance:

2007-08-29 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2007-08-30 04:40, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On 27-aug-2007, at 23:21, ext ext Bob Hinden wrote: On behalf of the IPv6 WG, the chairs request the advancement of That was fast. Iljitsch, I think it's a fair judgement of the rough consensus (which is obviously going to stay rough, however

Re: Request to Advance:

2007-08-29 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 27-aug-2007, at 23:21, ext ext Bob Hinden wrote: On behalf of the IPv6 WG, the chairs request the advancement of That was fast. IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www1.ietf

Request to Advance:

2007-08-27 Thread ext ext Bob Hinden
Jari & Mark, On behalf of the IPv6 WG, the chairs request the advancement of Title : Deprecation of Type 0 Routing Headers in IPv6 Author(s) : J. Abley, et al. Filename: draft-ietf-ipv6-deprecate-rh0-01.txt Pages : 9 Date

Re: Request to Advance:

2007-06-29 Thread Jari Arkko
Is the a document shepherd writeup? See: http://www.ietf.org/IESG/content/Doc-Writeup.html Jari ext Bob Hinden kirjoitti: > Jari & Mark, > > On behalf of the IPv6 WG, the chairs request the advancement of > > Title : IPv6 Router Advertisement Flags Option > Author(s) : B. Haberman, R. Hinden

Request to Advance:

2007-06-28 Thread ext Bob Hinden
Jari & Mark, On behalf of the IPv6 WG, the chairs request the advancement of Title : IPv6 Router Advertisement Flags Option Author(s) : B. Haberman, R. Hinden Filename : draft-ietf-ipv6-ra-flags-option-01.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2007-6-22 as an Proposed Standard. This document reflects

Request to Advance:

2006-02-15 Thread Bob Hinden
Margaret & Mark, On behalf of the IPv6 WG, the chairs request the advancement of Title : IPv6 Node Information Queries Author(s) : M. Crawford, B. Haberman Filename: draft-ietf-ipngwg-icmp-name-lookups-15.txt Pages : 15 Da

RE: Fwd: Request To Advance:

2006-01-05 Thread Soliman, Hesham
> > => Not in the main text, which is why I suggested above > that we can add it > > to section 7.2. > > I see. As I said in the previous message (see also below), we should > first make a consensus about whether this is to be added. Then, if > the result is positive, we should explici

Re: Fwd: Request To Advance:

2006-01-05 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 14:25:52 -0500, > "Soliman, Hesham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Sorry for the late response I was out of the office. >> > => This can be added to the text at the beginning of 7.2., >> which discusses this issues. >> >> Hmm, so the behavior corresponding to the foll

RE: Fwd: Request To Advance:

2006-01-03 Thread Soliman, Hesham
Sorry for the late response I was out of the office. > > => This can be added to the text at the beginning of 7.2., > which discusses this issues. > > Hmm, so the behavior corresponding to the following entry > (shown again > just to be accurate) is not currently described in the draft:

Re: Fwd: Request To Advance:

2005-12-13 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 13:18:28 -0500, > "Soliman, Hesham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > => Good points. I agree with that. So to keep it >> consistent, I'll remove this distinction >> > between host and router. >> >> Okay, but please clarify my first question, too: >> >> >> First of a

RE: Fwd: Request To Advance:

2005-12-07 Thread Soliman, Hesham
> the change to APPENDIX C should cover the case of > an unsolicited ND message does not contain source/target LLAO, > AND the receiving node does not have a neighbor cache entry for > the source/target > (there are two conditions for a single 'case') > > Is this now clear

Re: Fwd: Request To Advance:

2005-12-04 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 10:42:02 -0500, > "Soliman, Hesham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > => Agreed. In addition to Appendix C, we also agreed on the list to add a > paragraph to > section 7.2 (text from Greg Daley) to clarify the general > handling. This was also added. OK so far. >So,

RE: Fwd: Request To Advance:

2005-12-02 Thread Soliman, Hesham
> > (Sorry for the delayed response...I hope you still remember the > context) => No probs, I remember it clearly. > >> I've compared the difference of the state machine in Appendix C > >> between the 03 and 05 versions (attached below). At > least it doesn't > >> seem to cover the cas

Re: Fwd: Request To Advance:

2005-12-02 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
(Sorry for the delayed response...I hope you still remember the context) > On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:06:20 -0500, > "Soliman, Hesham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Sending in hibernate mode. >> I'm not sure if this one is correctly addressed: >> http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipv6/curr

Re: Request To Advance:

2005-11-18 Thread Brian Haberman
The draft editor posted a pointer to the document on the pppext mailing list in March of 2004. The archives indicate no feedback whatsoever. Brian On Nov 18, 2005, at 11:54, Mark Townsley wrote: Sorry, answered too soon... I see the proto questionairre now. It doesn't indicate a pppext revi

Re: Request To Advance:

2005-11-18 Thread Mark Townsley
Sorry, answered too soon... I see the proto questionairre now. It doesn't indicate a pppext review, I think it would be a good idea to have one. Thanks, - Mark Brian Haberman wrote: Margaret & Mark, On behalf of the IPv6 WG, the chairs request the advancement of: Title:

Re: Request To Advance:

2005-11-18 Thread Mark Townsley
May we have a proto questionairre? Did you LC this or get a review from in pppext as well? Thanks, - Mark Brian Haberman wrote: Margaret & Mark, On behalf of the IPv6 WG, the chairs request the advancement of: Title: IP Version 6 over PPP Author(s): S. Varada, et a

Request To Advance:

2005-11-18 Thread Brian Haberman
Margaret & Mark, On behalf of the IPv6 WG, the chairs request the advancement of: Title : IP Version 6 over PPP Author(s) : S. Varada, et al. Filename: draft-ietf-ipv6-over-ppp-v2-02.txt Pages : 15 Date: 2005-6-15

RE: Fwd: Request To Advance:

2005-11-17 Thread Soliman, Hesham
Sending in hibernate mode. > I'm not sure if this one is correctly addressed: > http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipv6/current/msg05107.html > (BTW: msg05107 is a comment on version 03, and I could not get a 04 > version. Has that version been issued, or is the version number > bumpe

Re: Fwd: Request To Advance:

2005-11-07 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
Excuse me for not doing this earlier, but I finally check the 05 version to see my previous comments were addressed, and found some points I'm not sure about. > On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 13:04:37 -0500, > Brian Haberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Margaret & Mark, >> On behalf of the IPv6 WG,

Fwd: Request To Advance:

2005-11-01 Thread Brian Haberman
Begin forwarded message: From: Brian Haberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: November 1, 2005 13:04:17 EST To: The IESG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Margaret Wasserman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Mark Townsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bob Hinden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:

Request To Advance:

2005-07-28 Thread Brian Haberman
Margaret & Mark, On behalf of the IPv6 WG, the chairs request the advancement of: Title : Neighbor Discovery Proxies (ND Proxy) Author(s) : D. Thaler, et al. Filename: draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-03.txt Pages : 20 Date

Request to Advance: draft-ietf-ipv6-privacy-addrs-v2-03.txt

2005-04-19 Thread Brian Haberman
Margaret & Mark, On behalf of the IPv6 WG, the chairs request the advancement of Title : Privacy Extensions for Stateless Address Autoconfiguration in IPv6 Author(s) : T. Narten, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ipv6-

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-02-02 Thread Erik Nordmark
Christian Huitema wrote: Don't get me wrong, I like SEND. My point was just that if we allow "transparent" bridges at all, then we essentially allow the same man-in-the-middle attacks that are also possible with ND proxy. But doesn't the layering inherent in the SeND vs. IEEE make this rather diff

RE: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-02-01 Thread Christian Huitema
> ... I spoke to the NOC about it, and found out that they had only > allocated enough address space for 256 hosts, and there were well over 300 > people in the room, many of whom were knowledgable networking researchers. > Somebody was ARP spoofing, stealing addresses because not enough had been >

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-02-01 Thread Bob Hinden
James, In 2002, I was sitting in the conference room at Mobicom browsing one of the papers when my 802.11/IPv4 network connection started to act up. It would go away, then come back, then hang for a long period of time. When I looked into the matter more deeply, I discovered that the DHCP lease on

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-02-01 Thread James Kempf
>SEND secures the mapping between an IPv6 address and a MAC address, but >it does nothing to guarantee that the L2 topology actually delivers the >packets to the intended destination. When we expand all that energy >signing neighbor discovery packets, have we really improved security? Here's a con

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-02-01 Thread Jari Arkko
Christian Huitema wrote: The general case of proxy ND, which this specification uses, can not provide any security against MiTM because by definition the proxy is a MiTM. Thus it is completely unreasonably to assume that SeND will solve this. What do you mean, unreasonable? It is certainly possible

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-02-01 Thread Jari Arkko
Christian Huitema wrote: SEND secures the mapping between an IPv6 address and a MAC address, but it does nothing to guarantee that the L2 topology actually delivers the packets to the intended destination. When we expand all that energy signing neighbor discovery packets, have we really improved se

RE: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-31 Thread Christian Huitema
So, thinking some more about it, I have this nasty feeling about the usefulness of SEND. Compare the two topologies: Host-A <---> learning bridge <---> Host-B Host-A <---> ND-Proxy<---> Host-B SEND will work just fine with the learning bridge topology, but will not work wi

RE: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-31 Thread Christian Huitema
> The general case of proxy ND, which this specification uses, can not > provide any security against MiTM because by definition the proxy is a > MiTM. Thus it is completely unreasonably to assume that SeND will solve > this. What do you mean, unreasonable? It is certainly possible to write and si

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-31 Thread Erik Nordmark
Dave Thaler wrote: The fact that SEND doesn't yet support proxy ND is not specific to this specification, it's something for SEND to solve. The general case of proxy ND, which this specification uses, can not provide any security against MiTM because by definition the proxy is a MiTM. Thus it is

RE: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-31 Thread Dave Thaler
Cc: Thomas Narten; Margaret Wasserman; Brian Haberman; IPv6 > Subject: Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND] > > Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > > First, lets keep in mind that this is an Informational document. > > > > I wonder whether Experimental wouldn't send a

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-30 Thread Ralph Droms
Some comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-00.txt... Substantive comments: I think this document would be more appropriately published as an Experimental RFC rather than Informational. The inconsistencies between the requirements for securing IPv6 neighbor discovery and allowing dynamic addition/rem

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-28 Thread Vijay Devarapalli
Soliman, Hesham wrote: FWIW I don't have a problem with ndproxy being published while incompatible with SeND. There are other examples of completely insecure experimental RFCs, e.g. Fast handoffs. It's essential to make the document consistent though. what is being discussed is incompatibility betw

RE: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-28 Thread Alper Yegin
I know NDproxy is a WG item, but I think this problem space deserves a discussion on its own. Although it has implications on IPv6 ND, I think stretching subnets beyond links mean further than that. And there is already another proposal contending for a similar problem space, Rbridging. Before we

RE: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-28 Thread Soliman, Hesham
> Alain Durand wrote: > ... > > The argument that NDproxy will only be used in a certain > environments > > where SEND is not needed is clearly bogus, The IETF is not about > > defining standards for special cases but for the whole Internet. > > I disagree as a matter of principle. It i

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-27 Thread Alain Durand
On Jan 27, 2005, at 6:02 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Alain Durand wrote: ... The argument that NDproxy will only be used in a certain environments where SEND is not needed is clearly bogus, The IETF is not about defining standards for special cases but for the whole Internet. I disagree as a matte

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-27 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Alain Durand wrote: ... The argument that NDproxy will only be used in a certain environments where SEND is not needed is clearly bogus, The IETF is not about defining standards for special cases but for the whole Internet. I disagree as a matter of principle. It is perfectly OK to have specs that

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-27 Thread Alain Durand
On Jan 24, 2005, at 3:14 PM, Jari Arkko wrote: Erik Nordmark wrote: I wonder whether Experimental wouldn't send a clearer signal that there is some doubt about the viability of the solution. That would be better than informational. I agree. But I also think that if the document has inconsistencies

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-26 Thread James Kempf
D]>; "Thomas Narten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Margaret Wasserman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "IPv6" Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND] > James, > > >specifically, speakeasy has a program listed on thei

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-26 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 23:51, Bob Hinden wrote: > >specifically, speakeasy has a program listed on their web site where you get > >credits for routing your neighbor's traffic through your .11 ap. perhaps > >other isps too? > > Thanks. Could supply a link to additional information on this? http:/

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-25 Thread Bob Hinden
James, specifically, speakeasy has a program listed on their web site where you get credits for routing your neighbor's traffic through your .11 ap. perhaps other isps too? Thanks. Could supply a link to additional information on this? Bob --

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-25 Thread Erik Nordmark
James Kempf wrote: specifically, speakeasy has a program listed on their web site where you get credits for routing your neighbor's traffic through your .11 ap. perhaps other isps too? sonic.net is another case. Erik IETF IPv6 w

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-24 Thread Ralph Droms
I apologize if I've missed this particular point earlier in the discussion - Experimental seems appropriate to me unless there is widespread deployment of some version of the protocol that this document is specifying. And I agree about correcting any inconsistencies prior to publication... - Ralph

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-24 Thread Jari Arkko
Erik Nordmark wrote: I wonder whether Experimental wouldn't send a clearer signal that there is some doubt about the viability of the solution. That would be better than informational. I agree. But I also think that if the document has inconsistencies those should be corrected even before publishin

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-24 Thread James Kempf
> >> The counterexample is that there are ISPs that have their home users > >> with 802.11 run public hotspots and get some compensation from the > >> ISP. In this case, since it is a public access 802.11, SeND would be a > >> good thing to use. And 802.11 is also a key scenario for proxynd. > > >

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-24 Thread Brian Haberman
On Jan 24, 2005, at 6:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian H, First, lets keep in mind that this is an Informational document. I wonder whether Experimental wouldn't send a clearer signal that there is some doubt about the viability of the solution. I can see how this could be very useful in certain

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-24 Thread Erik Nordmark
Brian Haberman wrote: I take it from your detailed responses below that you see it in IETF's best interest to publish this document and protocol without any quality improvements to neither the document nor the protocol. Did I understand that correctly? I never said that. I was commenting on the v

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-24 Thread Erik Nordmark
Brian E Carpenter wrote: > First, lets keep in mind that this is an Informational document. I wonder whether Experimental wouldn't send a clearer signal that there is some doubt about the viability of the solution. That would be better than informational. But I still think the document should say

RE: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-24 Thread john . loughney
Brian H, > > First, lets keep in mind that this is an Informational document. > > I wonder whether Experimental wouldn't send a clearer signal > that there is some doubt about the viability of the solution. > > I can see how this could be very useful in certain types of > network environment, a

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-24 Thread Brian E Carpenter
> First, lets keep in mind that this is an Informational document. I wonder whether Experimental wouldn't send a clearer signal that there is some doubt about the viability of the solution. I can see how this could be very useful in certain types of network environment, and publishing as Experiment

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-21 Thread Brian Haberman
Erik, On Jan 21, 2005, at 0:34, Erik Nordmark wrote: Hello Brian, For the most part, there has been less than optimal public discussion. The minutes from Seoul indicate that Thomas was less than happy with the level of comments. However, the people who did speak up were in favor of it. Hmm - I'm s

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-20 Thread Erik Nordmark
Hello Brian, For the most part, there has been less than optimal public discussion. The minutes from Seoul indicate that Thomas was less than happy with the level of comments. However, the people who did speak up were in favor of it. Hmm - I'm spoken up in more than one IPv6 WG meeting pointing ou

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-20 Thread Brian Haberman
Hi Erik, On Jan 18, 2005, at 14:14, Erik Nordmark wrote: I for one missed the last call, because I was on vacation during much of those two weeks. Given that there isn't likely to be an IETF-wide last call, I'd wish the WG and/or ADs take these comments into account. I think there are several s

Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-18 Thread Erik Nordmark
Bob Hinden wrote: [Corrected error in subject line] Margaret & Thomas, On behalf of the IPv6 WG, the chairs request the advancement of: Title: Bridge-like Neighbor Discovery Proxies (ND Proxy) Author(s): D. Thaler, et al. Filename: draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-00.txt Page

Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-17 Thread Bob Hinden
[Corrected error in subject line] Margaret & Thomas, On behalf of the IPv6 WG, the chairs request the advancement of: Title : Bridge-like Neighbor Discovery Proxies (ND Proxy) Author(s) : D. Thaler, et al. Filename: draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-00.txt

Re: Request to Advance "Embedding the Rendezvous Point (RP) Address in an IPv6 Multicast Address"

2004-05-14 Thread Brian Haberman
IPv6 WG, Please note the advancement of the above draft to the IESG. Anyone having comments can refer them to the mboned mailing list or comment during the IETF Last Call. Regards, Brian & Bob IPv6 WG co-chairs David Meyer wrote: David and Bert, On behalf of the MBONED WG, I wo

Request to Advance "IPv6 Scoped Address Architecture" (resend)

2004-05-13 Thread Bob Hinden
Margaret, Thomas, The chairs of the IPv6 working group, on behalf of the working group, request that the following document be published as a Proposed Standard: Title : IPv6 Scoped Address Architecture Author(s) : S. Deering, B. Haberman, T. Jinmei, E. Nordmark,

Request to Advance "IPv6 Scoped Address Architecture"

2004-05-13 Thread Bob Hinden
Margaret, Thomas, The chairs of the IPv6 working group, on behalf of the working group, request that the following document be published as a Proposed Standard: Title : IPv6 Scoped Address Architecture Author(s) : S. Deering, B. Haberman, T. Jinmei, E. Nordmark,

Re: Request To Advance : "Unique Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses"

2004-02-28 Thread Dan Lanciani
Bill Manning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |% Bill Manning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |% |% | be prepared to defend yourself in court(s) in any number of |% | jurisdictions. |% |% Against whom exactly would he be defending? Presumably the litigation would |% be initiated by someone who had a finan

Re: Request To Advance : "Unique Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses"

2004-02-25 Thread Bill Manning
% Bill Manning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: % % | be prepared to defend yourself in court(s) in any number of % | jurisdictions. % % Against whom exactly would he be defending? Presumably the litigation would % be initiated by someone who had a financial stake in the matter. Are you % acknowledgi

RE: Request To Advance : "Unique Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses"

2004-02-25 Thread Jeroen Massar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Dan Lanciani wrote: > "Jeroen Massar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > |Dan Lanciani wrote: > | > |> "Jeroen Massar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > |> > |> |I have only one note on the "unique local ipv6 address" subject: > |> | > |> |Organisations wanting "unconn

Re: Request To Advance : "Unique Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses"

2004-02-25 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake "Bill Manning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > be prepared to defend yourself in court(s) in any number of jurisdictions. > ... You should have the ISOC/IETF legal team review the creation of > property rights by the WG chairs and the IESG. Its not going to be easy > and its not clear the effort

RE: Request To Advance : "Unique Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses"

2004-02-25 Thread Dan Lanciani
"Jeroen Massar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |Dan Lanciani wrote: | |> "Jeroen Massar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> |> |I have only one note on the "unique local ipv6 address" subject: |> | |> |Organisations wanting "unconnected addressspace" should go to |> |an existing organisation that they thi

RE: Request To Advance : "Unique Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses"

2004-02-25 Thread Jeroen Massar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Dan Lanciani wrote: > "Jeroen Massar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > |I have only one note on the "unique local ipv6 address" subject: > | > |Organisations wanting "unconnected addressspace" should go to > |an existing organisation that they think will outlast

RE: Request To Advance : "Unique Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses"

2004-02-25 Thread Dan Lanciani
"Jeroen Massar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |I have only one note on the "unique local ipv6 address" subject: | |Organisations wanting "unconnected addressspace" should go to |an existing organisation that they think will outlast them in age |and that already has a LIR allocation allocated. Give th

Re: Request To Advance : "Unique Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses"

2004-02-25 Thread Dan Lanciani
Bill Manning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | be prepared to defend yourself in court(s) in any number of | jurisdictions. Against whom exactly would he be defending? Presumably the litigation would be initiated by someone who had a financial stake in the matter. Are you acknowledging that the curr

RE: Request To Advance : "Unique Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses"

2004-02-25 Thread Jeroen Massar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Alain Durand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > |- Permanent allocation is equivalent of selling address space, I have only one note on the "unique local ipv6 address" subject: Organisations wanting "unconnected addressspace" should go to an existing organisati

Re: Request To Advance : "Unique Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses"

2004-02-25 Thread Dan Lanciani
Alain Durand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |- Permanent allocation is equivalent of selling address space, No, it is not. Address space could be given away at no cost just as it was in the beginning. A fee may be a useful tool to discourage hoarding, but there may be other equally effective (or ev

Re: Request To Advance : "Unique Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses"

2004-02-25 Thread Bill Manning
AM % >% > To: Brian Haberman; Bob Hinden % >% > Cc: The IESG; Margaret Wasserman; IPv6 Mailing List; Alain Durand; Thomas % >% > Narten % >% > Subject: Re: Request To Advance : "Unique Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses" % >% > % >% > Dears ADs, % >%

Re: Request To Advance : "Unique Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses"

2004-02-24 Thread Alain Durand
On Feb 20, 2004, at 12:17 PM, Tony Hain wrote: Alain, The current document does not enforce a business model (earlier versions did), but does set technical constraints. I disagree. There are no technical constraints that mandates that the allocations have to be permanent. As such, I believe it

Re: Request To Advance : "Unique Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses"

2004-02-24 Thread Alain Durand
On Feb 24, 2004, at 10:09 AM, Fred Templin wrote: Alain, Speaking only as an individual wg participant, I appreciate the concerns you are raising but am hoping that you are not contemplating a divisive and time-consuming appeals process such as the one we have just come through for site local de

Appeal Response - Request To Advance : "Unique Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses"

2004-02-24 Thread Brian Haberman
Alain, At 01:22 AM 2/20/2004, Alain Durand wrote: Dears ADs, Since the appeal process starts with the working group chairs, we are responding as such. I found it very unfortunate that the chair decided to request to advance this document without answering two major issues I raised during the

Re: Request To Advance : "Unique Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses"

2004-02-24 Thread Fred Templin
ROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alain % > Durand % > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 1:22 AM % > To: Brian Haberman; Bob Hinden % > Cc: The IESG; Margaret Wasserman; IPv6 Mailing List; Alain Durand; Thomas % > Narten % > Subject: Re: Request To Advance : "Unique Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses&q

Re: Request To Advance : "Unique Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses"

2004-02-24 Thread Fred Templin
.) Regards, Fred L. Templin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alain Durand wrote: Dears ADs, I found it very unfortunate that the chair decided to request to advance this document without answering two major issues I raised during the last call: - Permanent allocation is equivalent of selling address space

Re: Request To Advance : "Unique Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses"

2004-02-24 Thread Fred Templin
To: Brian Haberman; Bob Hinden Cc: The IESG; Margaret Wasserman; IPv6 Mailing List; Alain Durand; Thomas Narten Subject: Re: Request To Advance : "Unique Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses" Dears ADs, I found it very unfortunate that the chair decided to request to advance this document withou

Re: Request To Advance : "Unique Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses"

2004-02-23 Thread Tim Chown
On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 12:17:51PM -0800, Tony Hain wrote: > Alain, > > Recommending against all-zero's is not only a waste of time, it specifically > directs people to the thing you are trying to avoid. There is nothing that a > document can do to prevent a consultant from configuring all of his

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