Thomas == Thomas Heide Clausen i...@thomasclausen.org writes:
Thomas If an AD sponsored submission is the intend, then I do
Thomas honestly not know what the proper way of shaping the process
Thomas / forum for discussions / framing of the specification would
Thomas be, but I
We (the ZigBee Alliance) will request a port number to use with MLE.
After discussion this week at the ZigBee Alliance members meeting, we will
follow the AD sponsored draft route. We will elicit input from as many
related IETF WG's who might be interested in MLE We look forward to
comments
All sounds fantastic but we don't have time for all these changes so will
opt to use MLE as written using UDP ( at least for our application)
Don
On 6/14/12 1:13 PM, Michael Richardson mcr+i...@sandelman.ca wrote:
In draft-kelsey-intarea-mesh-link-establishment-03.txt it says that
MLE
we don't have time for all these changes
It's likely that the next question that will come up is:
Should this be published as an informational RFC called ZigBee's MLE protocol
because the protocol is no longer really meant to be modified in the process or
should it be pursued as a standards
Thomas == Thomas Heide Clausen i...@thomasclausen.org writes:
Thomas Not sure how fantastic (or not) it is - it is not
Thomas immediately clear to me how tied MLE should be to RPL - if
Thomas it truly aims at being for _MESH_ link establishment, then
Thomas it would appear to be
Hi Thomas (and Michael),
I don't agree that MLE targets only RPL. The draft was written carefully
to avoid having a narrow focus around RPL. That said, the deployment we
are using this draft for uses 6LoWPAN, 6LoWPAN ND, ROLL RPL (non-storing)
and I think many others will find the information
Hi Michael,
We believe UDP makes the most sense as a transport for MLE. ICMP will
take entirely too long and will end up being a maintenance issue if there
are additional information exchanges needed using MLE.
While the ZigBee Alliance is using ROLL RPL and 6LoWPAN, the information
exchanged
Hi Carsten,
I answered a similar note privately from Michael. Let me share part of
that here for everyone:
.. (part of note to Michael deleted)...
We are just sharing our experience of now 2 years of monthly interops
using 6LoWPAN, ROLL RPL, PANA and now MLE. Many of us
)
Don
On 6/14/12 1:13 PM, Michael Richardson mcr+i...@sandelman.ca wrote:
In draft-kelsey-intarea-mesh-link-establishment-03.txt it says that
MLE messages are sent using UDP.
I want to suggest that MLE messages should be sent at least as IPv6
ICMP messages.
Further, I
Don == Don Sturek d.stu...@att.net writes:
Don We believe UDP makes the most sense as a transport for MLE. ICMP will
Don take entirely too long and will end up being a maintenance issue if
there
Don are additional information exchanges needed using MLE.
I can't see a difference
Hi Michael,
It is the process needed to make additions to ICMP. We have multiple
implementers using the existing MLE draft so we also are trying to get
closure if we can since we plan to being commercial certification shortly.
To us, MLE provides the features we need and there is ownership
-kelsey-intarea-mesh-link-establishment-03.txt it says that
MLE messages are sent using UDP.
I want to suggest that MLE messages should be sent at least as IPv6
ICMP messages.
Further, I think that it could use the RPL type 155, and RPL would
allocate a new code codepoint.
There would
On Jun 15, 2012, at 15:12 , Michael Richardson wrote:
Thomas == Thomas Heide Clausen i...@thomasclausen.org writes:
Thomas Not sure how fantastic (or not) it is - it is not
Thomas immediately clear to me how tied MLE should be to RPL - if
Thomas it truly aims at being for _MESH_
Hi Thomas,
I think our plan was to submit it to the Internet Area directly (Richard:
That is from memory, am I correct?)
Don
On 6/15/12 9:28 AM, Thomas Heide Clausen i...@thomasclausen.org wrote:
On 15 Jun 2012, at 15:57, Don Sturek d.stu...@att.net wrote:
Hi Thomas (and Michael),
I
Hi Don,
On 15 Jun 2012, at 18:41, Don Sturek d.stu...@att.net wrote:
Hi Thomas,
I think our plan was to submit it to the Internet Area directly (Richard:
That is from memory, am I correct?)
If that's the case, then I think that it needs to be scoped carefully: the
design and direction
Dear Richard,
Thank you for the clarifications, I appreciate it.
I look forward to the next version, which I will endeavor to review carefully
with what you state below in mind.
Best,
Thomas
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http://www.thomasclausen.org/
Any simple problem can be made insoluble if
In draft-kelsey-intarea-mesh-link-establishment-03.txt it says that
MLE messages are sent using UDP.
I want to suggest that MLE messages should be sent at least as IPv6
ICMP messages.
Further, I think that it could use the RPL type 155, and RPL would
allocate a new code codepoint
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