[JAVA3D] Réf. : Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-22 Thread Thierry Milard (free)
---Message original---   De : Discussion list for Java 3D API Date : 06/19/04 09:48:54 A : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sujet : Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004   Am I the only one to notice that Kevin is back in the thick of things in the Java 3D Forum after a hiatus :-) ? And should w

Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-19 Thread N. Vaidya
Am I the only one to notice that Kevin is back in the thick of things in the Java 3D Forum after a hiatus :-) ? And should we not be saying Welcome Back, and also take that as a hint for Sun's renewed commitment to Java 3D ? We also need to appreciate Paul and Mark's continued presence and support

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Ian Morris Nieves
I wanted to raise a few indisputable facts about Java3D to help reassure people that Java3D has a real/serious future. 1) APPLE is putting resources behind Java3D on the mac. Do you remember how LONG that has taken? Do you think Jobs would have done this unless he got someone at SUN to swear on t

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Kevin Rushforth
It is certainly true that Java 3D has been scaled back considerably from the level of effort prior to November 2001. The API has been in a holding pattern since March 2002. What we announced in March of this year is a renewed commitment to Java 3D, and our intention to make the source code availabl

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Ben Moxon
JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004 "Sun's engineering investment in Java 3D has been scaled back" sounds slightly different to "stopped completely" and "all developers have been fired". And also if somebody would have posted that J3D was disconti

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread michaelpfeiffer
"Sun's engineering investment in Java 3D has been scaled back" sounds slightly different to "stopped completely" and "all developers have been fired". And also if somebody would have posted that J3D was discontinued - now we know that it isn't true - so why can this disinformation already be read o

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Shawn Kendall
This "wrong" information was started with posts by Java3D TEAM members on this list as very long time ago. I still remember that day in Nov 2001 I got news that they were closing J3D down. So do not blame people that just report what was posted here officially. They started the "J3D is dead" mu

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Ben Moxon
t: 18 June 2004 14:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004 If it is not true, the host of j3d.org should remove it from the j3d website, because so far some people like me regard j3d as the official information source for j3d. By the way

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread michaelpfeiffer
The demanding to remove this wrong information isn't new but j3d.org seems not to be interested in it :-( You can find my own (small) J3D-related website at http://java3d.virtualworlds.de . It contains several information, is english-"speaking" but there is a focus on information in german too. On

[JAVA3D] Antw: Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Olivier Lefevre
> The above is wrong information? or Sun hired new Java 3D developers > since then? A lot has happened since June 2003, including a renewed emphasis by Sun on the desktop, so it is possible that both are true. As to: > Does this information have to be true only because it can be read in the > int

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread David Du
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 11:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004 Does this information have to be true only because it can be read in the internet? I'd think such an inform

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread David Du
e is wrong information? or Sun hired new Java 3D developers since then? Thanks David -Original Message- From: Discussion list for Java 3D API [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joerg Plewe Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 9:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMEN

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread michaelpfeiffer
Does this information have to be true only because it can be read in the internet? I'd think such an information must be correct only if it can be read somewhere on sun.com, java.com or java.net On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:22:44 -0400, David Du <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, if yes, how do you explain t

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread david kavanagh
t: Friday, June 18, 2004 9:10 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004 > > David Du <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 18.06.2004, 15:04:29: > > Which "information" is completely wrong? Sun still has Java 3D t

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Franck Calzada
18, 2004 3:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004 David Du <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 18.06.2004, 15:22:44: > so it seems like Sun is not going to do any more development on thei

[JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Joerg Plewe
David Du <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 18.06.2004, 15:22:44: > so it seems like Sun is not going to do any more development on their own? Hm, don't think thats true. Sun makes things OpenSource which seem to be dead (e.g. JSDT). In this case, the license will not be *really* free. Still only Sun

Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Ben Moxon
t are we supposed to think in that time? -ben -Original Message- From: Discussion list for Java 3D API [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 June 2004 16:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004 On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread David Du
Plewe Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 9:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004 David Du <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 18.06.2004, 15:04:29: > Which "information" is completely wrong? Sun still has J

[JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Joerg Plewe
David Du <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 18.06.2004, 15:04:29: > Which "information" is completely wrong? Sun still has Java 3D team? > Yes. === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the me

Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread michaelpfeiffer
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 5:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004 This "information" is completely wrong, weeks after that bullshit was announced there the Buglist was maintained and Sun-employees which are responsible for J3D posted here in t

Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread David Du
NOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004 This "information" is completely wrong, weeks after that bullshit was announced there the Buglist was maintained and Sun-employees which are responsible for J3D posted here in the J3D mailainglist. On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 23:01:49 -0400, David Du <[

Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread á͹´ÃÙÇì à´ÇÔÊѹ (Andrew Davison)
> [if] there are no Java3D team anymore in Sun, how come > there will be a Sun Java 3D team staffing booth 927 in the Pavilion? 3D Holograms perhaps, implemented with dominatrix3d (is that the name ?). - Andrew === To unsubs

Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread michaelpfeiffer
This "information" is completely wrong, weeks after that bullshit was announced there the Buglist was maintained and Sun-employees which are responsible for J3D posted here in the J3D mailainglist. On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 23:01:49 -0400, David Du <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: HI, I remember I learned from

Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-17 Thread David Du
API [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Rushforth Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 4:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004 Good afternoon, This message is for those who are attending the JavaOne 2004 conference in San Francisco, June 28-July 1. The

[JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-17 Thread Kevin Rushforth
Good afternoon, This message is for those who are attending the JavaOne 2004 conference in San Francisco, June 28-July 1. The Java 3D team will be staffing booth 927 in the Pavilion. http://www.javaone04.com/catalog/exhibitors.do?action=detail&id=1035 We will also be hosting a Birds of a Feathe