Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread michaelpfeiffer
This "information" is completely wrong, weeks after that bullshit was announced there the Buglist was maintained and Sun-employees which are responsible for J3D posted here in the J3D mailainglist. On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 23:01:49 -0400, David Du <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: HI, I remember I learned from

Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread á͹´ÃÙÇì à´ÇÔÊѹ (Andrew Davison)
> [if] there are no Java3D team anymore in Sun, how come > there will be a Sun Java 3D team staffing booth 927 in the Pavilion? 3D Holograms perhaps, implemented with dominatrix3d (is that the name ?). - Andrew === To unsubs

Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread David Du
Which "information" is completely wrong? Sun still has Java 3D team? THanks David -Original Message- From: Discussion list for Java 3D API [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 5:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT:

Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread michaelpfeiffer
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:04:29 -0400, David Du <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Which "information" is completely wrong? Sun still has Java 3D team? The information that further development of J3D was stopped is wrong - elsewhere there wouldn't be plans for version 1.4, plans for making it open source and

[JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Joerg Plewe
David Du <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 18.06.2004, 15:04:29: > Which "information" is completely wrong? Sun still has Java 3D team? > Yes. === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the me

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread David Du
Hi, if yes, how do you explain the following I got from http://www.j3d.org/faq/intro.html#future 2. What is the future of Java 3D? Right now, it is in a holding pattern but at least we have some information to work on. In July 2003, Sun sacked the two remaining fulltime developers. Nothing was

Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Ben Moxon
I'm fairly sure I read both pieces of information on this site, both sourced from an address that appeared to be a sun on. Maybe it was a question of embittered developers who have just been made reduntant but for the following three months or so Sun said nothing about the matter, so what are we

[JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Joerg Plewe
David Du <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 18.06.2004, 15:22:44: > so it seems like Sun is not going to do any more development on their own? Hm, don't think thats true. Sun makes things OpenSource which seem to be dead (e.g. JSDT). In this case, the license will not be *really* free. Still only Sun

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Franck Calzada
Let's wait for the JavaOne 2004 meeting, then we will know... -Original Message- From: Discussion list for Java 3D API <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@SUNGARD On Behalf Of Joerg Plewe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 3:30 PM

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread david kavanagh
It appears that the j3d.org site posted the information about the team getting "sacked". Don't know the source of that information. However, Kevin (from Sun) has posted that the J3D team from Sun will be at JavaOne and will be hosting a BOF and manning a booth. So, it seems like the info on j3d.org

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread michaelpfeiffer
Does this information have to be true only because it can be read in the internet? I'd think such an information must be correct only if it can be read somewhere on sun.com, java.com or java.net On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:22:44 -0400, David Du <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, if yes, how do you explain t

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread David Du
You mean Sun is still doing Java3D development within their team, and not going to make it open source? so confusing? from this link: http://www.j3d.org/faq/intro.html#future "In July 2003, Sun sacked the two remaining fulltime developers. Nothing was heard for 6 months." The above is wrong info

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread David Du
If it is not true, the host of j3d.org should remove it from the j3d website, because so far some people like me regard j3d as the official information source for j3d. By the way, are there any more java 3d websites? Thanks -Original Message- From: Discussion list for Java 3D API [m

[JAVA3D] Antw: Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Olivier Lefevre
> The above is wrong information? or Sun hired new Java 3D developers > since then? A lot has happened since June 2003, including a renewed emphasis by Sun on the desktop, so it is possible that both are true. As to: > Does this information have to be true only because it can be read in the > int

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread michaelpfeiffer
The demanding to remove this wrong information isn't new but j3d.org seems not to be interested in it :-( You can find my own (small) J3D-related website at http://java3d.virtualworlds.de . It contains several information, is english-"speaking" but there is a focus on information in german too. On

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Ben Moxon
I don't know of any Java3d websites aside from j3d.org that have seen any updates over the last few years. The best and most immediate source of information about java3d, in my experience, is this list. That is exactly where the guys on j3d.org got that information from. The sources this was co

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Shawn Kendall
This "wrong" information was started with posts by Java3D TEAM members on this list as very long time ago. I still remember that day in Nov 2001 I got news that they were closing J3D down. So do not blame people that just report what was posted here officially. They started the "J3D is dead" mu

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread michaelpfeiffer
"Sun's engineering investment in Java 3D has been scaled back" sounds slightly different to "stopped completely" and "all developers have been fired". And also if somebody would have posted that J3D was discontinued - now we know that it isn't true - so why can this disinformation already be read o

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Ben Moxon
Those were different posts, some time later. J3d has hung in the balance for a while, and understandably so- how has it's existence really benefited sun? They are in business to make a profit, rather than to make us developers happy. My view would be that the guys who run j3d.org are pretty busy

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Kevin Rushforth
It is certainly true that Java 3D has been scaled back considerably from the level of effort prior to November 2001. The API has been in a holding pattern since March 2002. What we announced in March of this year is a renewed commitment to Java 3D, and our intention to make the source code availabl

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Ian Morris Nieves
I wanted to raise a few indisputable facts about Java3D to help reassure people that Java3D has a real/serious future. 1) APPLE is putting resources behind Java3D on the mac. Do you remember how LONG that has taken? Do you think Jobs would have done this unless he got someone at SUN to swear on t

[JAVA3D] New Java3D Game, Cassos!

2004-06-18 Thread Laurent Letellier
Hi all, I've been annoying some of you with questions to accomplish my project with a few of my friends and I am now happy to be able to show you the result. If you want to skip the speech and just try the game then check this link: http://www.la-cfd.com/cassos/english/ and get

[JAVA3D] extrude a shape along a path

2004-06-18 Thread Maelvon HAWK
Hello, I want to extrude a shape along a line path with several steps. 1. Do you know where can I find a sample and simple algorithm or library java3d to do that? 2. Do you have some book titles who treat that subject: 3d algorithms, extrusion? Thanks a lot, Maelvon [OT : (only if you cannot answer

Re: [JAVA3D] extrude a shape along a path

2004-06-18 Thread geoffrey butterworth
yes maelvon.. amongst the java3d online applets. there is a spring , that is same idea i think. but i forgot where it was. soz. i go looking now. cause i got nothing better to do you know. it does give the code as well if i remeber correctly geoff. - Original Message - From: "Maelvon

Re: [JAVA3D] New Java3D Game, Cassos!

2004-06-18 Thread Mark Hood
> From: Laurent Letellier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 10:14 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [JAVA3D] New Java3D Game, Cassos! > > Hi all, > > I've been annoying some of you with questions to accomplish my project with > a few of my friends and I am now hap