[The Java Posse] Re: Issues with Open JDK 7 on Snow Leopard (and Netbeans)

2012-05-07 Thread Bill Robertson
#x27;s not yet an official > release of OpenJDK 7 for Mac OS X, but they should be close. If they have, then great. If not, then I'd like to submit them. Thanks, Bill Robertson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. T

[The Java Posse] Re: Issues with Open JDK 7 on Snow Leopard (and Netbeans)

2012-05-06 Thread Bill Robertson
ppose you couldn't really expect Oracle to test Java 7 against Netbeans > before release. I mean, that would probably involve inter-hand > communication possibly involving lawyers and a table reorg. > On May 6, 2012 5:09 PM, "Bill Robertson" wrote: -- You received this messag

[The Java Posse] Re: Issues with Open JDK 7 on Snow Leopard (and Netbeans)

2012-05-06 Thread Bill Robertson
n, 06 May 2012 19:06:29 +0200, Bill Robertson > > wrote: > > Has anybody else run into this? Heard of it? Any known work arounds? > > Currently OpenJDK 7 is still buggy and I don't think you can run Netbeans > on it in an affordable way. In any case, it's much better

[The Java Posse] Issues with Open JDK 7 on Snow Leopard (and Netbeans)

2012-05-06 Thread Bill Robertson
My macbook is about three years old now. I've heard stories about people with similarly old machines that didn't really do well under Lion. So I'm reluctant to upgrade. I downloaded the Sun's JDK 7 u 4 for OS X, but its Lion only. The error message is "The installer is supported only on OS X Lion

[The Java Posse] Re: JavaFX FXML Editor

2012-03-09 Thread Bill Robertson
> expected to be available in the second quarter of 2012. > > > > > > > > On Thursday, March 8, 2012 12:47:32 PM UTC-5, Bill Robertson wrote: > > > Is there supposed to be some sort of analog to the now defunct JavaFX > > Composer for FXML coming soon? >

[The Java Posse] JavaFX FXML Editor

2012-03-08 Thread Bill Robertson
Is there supposed to be some sort of analog to the now defunct JavaFX Composer for FXML coming soon? I recall hearing something about it, but I can't find anything on it. Thanks! Bill Robertson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Po

[The Java Posse] Re: What I Need to Learn Java

2011-05-22 Thread Bill Robertson
Thinking in Java is still a good book. http://mindview.net/Books/TIJ4 On May 20, 4:59 am, Jesper de Jong wrote: > Start at Oracle's excellent Java > Tutorials:http://download.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Po

[The Java Posse] Re: Mac Mail App Mentioned in May 19 Show

2011-05-22 Thread Bill Robertson
Interesting. Will do. On May 22, 5:40 pm, "dun...@oneeyedmen.com" wrote: > You might also check out MailPlane, which is just a Webkit skin on > GMail, but gives drag and drop attachments, Address Book integration > etc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group

[The Java Posse] Re: Mac Mail App Mentioned in May 19 Show

2011-05-22 Thread Bill Robertson
Thanks Kevin. On May 22, 2:42 pm, Kevin Wright wrote: > The application was Sparrow:http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/ > > > On 22 May 2011 19:38, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: > > > Assuming they were talking about Mail.app, that's apple's own thing. Part > > of mac OS

[The Java Posse] Re: random crap section / fart sounds

2011-05-22 Thread Bill Robertson
> Previously, I would rave about Java Posse to colleagues. Now, I stay > quiet because I don't want to endorse a podcast and have it reflect > poorly on me by association. Wow, that's pretty uptight. The Java Posse is by *far* the tamest podcast that I listen to. +1 to the new format and +1 to w

[The Java Posse] Mac Mail App Mentioned in May 19 Show

2011-05-22 Thread Bill Robertson
I listened to the show last night, and I was interested in the mac mail app that Carl mentioned. What is it called? I didn't see it in the show notes. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email

[The Java Posse] Re: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for OSX

2010-11-12 Thread Bill Robertson
Here is Apple's press release: http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/11/12openjdk.html On Nov 12, 8:54 am, Chris Adamson wrote: > Dalibor just tweeted a link to this: > > http://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/2010/11/oracle_and_apple_announce_open... -- You received this message because you are subsc

[The Java Posse] Re: Apple discontinues XServes

2010-11-05 Thread Bill Robertson
It might not be losing money, but OTOH, it might not be making enough to justify its existence. On Nov 5, 8:12 am, "fabrizio\.giudi...@tidalwave\.it" wrote: > Question: was a product line where Apple was losing money? Or does this mean > that Apple can drop products that, even though profitable

[The Java Posse] Re: Tor Leaves Oracle

2010-09-26 Thread Bill Robertson
Walmart On Sep 26, 9:11 pm, Les Stroud wrote: > So, between this and Gosling's interview, it seems that Oracle's lack > of career path for senior technical people is causing senior technical > folks to move on.  In general, where is everyone going?  Are there any > companies left with career path

[The Java Posse] Re: Patents: read and laugh

2010-09-25 Thread Bill Robertson
On 9/25/10 19:19 , Bill Robertson wrote:> After you're done laughing, let > them know your opinion! > > It sounds it's for US citizens only (which makes sense). > > -- > Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager > Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java wor

[The Java Posse] Re: Patents: read and laugh

2010-09-25 Thread Bill Robertson
Here's the direct link to the FSF's article on it. http://www.fsf.org/news/uspto-bilski-guidance Including where to send your comments. They want you to send your comment and CC them so they can track amount of feedback. After you're done laughing, let them know your opinion! On Sep 25, 9:55 p

[The Java Posse] Re: Request for scala fans.

2010-09-10 Thread Bill Robertson
That should be fine as long as everybody can maintain their compojure. On Sep 9, 6:03 pm, Steve wrote: > On Sep 10, 3:27 am, Cédric Beust ♔ wrote: > > > > > Bonus point if you add [Scala] in the subject of the new thread, but please > > stop hijacking threads (looking at you, Kevin). > > Would t

[The Java Posse] Re: Post your strangest loop and win (up to) 4 free passes to Strange Loop!

2010-09-07 Thread Bill Robertson
ereafter to be known as "the > epic") > And the winners were: > > #1 Joseph Darcy > #2 Curt Cox > #3 Me! > #4 Bill Robertson > > I'd love to go, but find myself to be living on the wrong continent... > > Enjoy your ticket Bill! > > -- > Kevin

[The Java Posse] Re: java pose

2010-09-03 Thread Bill Robertson
On Sep 2, 9:53 pm, purencool wrote: > Is your url for the podcast down I get Server not found. I have been > trying for two weeks (base in aus) Try http://javaposse.com instead of http://www.javaposse.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java

[The Java Posse] Re: Thoughtworks technology radar report

2010-09-03 Thread Bill Robertson
I agree that there's some marketing in there. However, I think it is interesting to see what they, as a group that might impact how technology decisions are made at higher levels, are suggesting. I think its also something you can point to if you're trying to convince management that other langua

[The Java Posse] Re: Thoughtworks technology radar report

2010-09-03 Thread Bill Robertson
They're saying that you might want to consider switching from Java (the language) to the JVM as a platform (item #64 in the inner ring (almost as close to the singularity as Ruby)). JRuby is a no-brainer in their eyes, and they love the Groovy. After that they suggest evaluating Clojure, and next

[The Java Posse] Re: flash on android

2010-09-02 Thread Bill Robertson
Performance isn't what worries me. Well, it would with my phone slooow. Power consumption and batteries are my worry about mobile flash. On Sep 2, 10:36 am, James Ward wrote: > "Flash doesn't work for shit on android. DUH! Who was expecting different?" > > Have you actually tried Flash on

[The Java Posse] Re: Post your strangest loop and win (up to) 4 free passes to Strange Loop!

2010-08-09 Thread Bill Robertson
A fun one. for(long t = 0; t < System.currentTimeMillis(); ++t) { } -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsu

[The Java Posse] Re: Code generation becoming mainstream?

2010-06-13 Thread Bill Robertson
I added code generation to our project about a year and a half ago. .java --> javac --> @annotations --> .java (and .h) There is a wafer thin layer of native code that interacts with a message bus that we need to talk to. It has no real message format, you get five void pointers and you have to

[The Java Posse] Re: Git Problems At Roundup?

2010-04-07 Thread Bill Robertson
I don't think there was anything wrong with git or github. We just didn't know what we were doing. (I tried to help, but I'm afraid I made it worse.) One thing that I found that I thought github could have done a bit better was that they could have put more documentation up on what to do when yo

[The Java Posse] Re: Closures, too much or too little?

2009-11-20 Thread Bill Robertson
Certainly virtual machines (and real machines) are better now, but I still don't think thats enough. One of the arguments in favor of method handles though, is that they will let other languages perform better because they don't have to generate classes for everything. There's supposed to be highe

[The Java Posse] Re: Closures, too much or too little?

2009-11-20 Thread Bill Robertson
Sheesh, I can't type. I was referring to the early days of Swing. When the all of the anonymous listener classes killed your GUI start- up time due to all of the class loading. On Nov 20, 2:07 pm, Bill Robertson wrote: > IIRC, I saw something about a silently generated interface as

[The Java Posse] Re: Closures, too much or too little?

2009-11-20 Thread Bill Robertson
IIRC, I saw something about a silently generated interface as part of the implementation the closure. Is this correct? Am I the only one who remember some of the bad early days when oodles of tiny classes killed your startup time? Weren't method handles just approved for JDK 7? If so then why

[The Java Posse] Stainless Steel Rat Reference

2009-10-13 Thread Bill Robertson
+1 to Dick for the Stainless Steel Rat reference in #282. I got a kick out of it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.co

[The Java Posse] Re: Does the JVM Language Summit need you?

2009-09-04 Thread Bill Robertson
If you're interested enough in the subject matter, but you haven't written a language or compiler or whatever else, then I think you should attend anyway. Maybe you might learn enough to push you over the edge to either do your own thing or to begin to help one of the existing language projects.

[The Java Posse] Re: VMWare buys SpringSource - thoughts?

2009-08-21 Thread Bill Robertson
Does Spring Source have a professional service organization? i.e. consultants? Even if they don't, maybe VMWare is looking to expand in that direction by starting with Spring's existing development staff. On Aug 10, 6:38 pm, Josh Long wrote: > VMWare buys SpringSource - thoughts? > > http://bl

[The Java Posse] Re: jdk versions

2009-08-10 Thread Bill Robertson
Gentlemen please be nice. At the bottom, I do see a "Mac Cocoa 32bit 64bit" link in the "Eclipse Classic 3.5.0 (161 MB)" section. Perhaps that's it. On Aug 10, 7:14 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: > I'm not out of date; that's the same eclipse I run. > > It isn't, however, anywhere on the st

[The Java Posse] Re: Tor teaches JavaFX to grades 7–9 students; video

2009-07-31 Thread Bill Robertson
Way to go Dave & Tor. On Jul 30, 1:19 pm, Dave Briccetti wrote: > Hi all. Yesterday, the friendly and talented Tor Norbye taught my > grade 7–9 programming class a little about JavaFX, using NetBeans > 6.7.1. We recorded the presentation, and I edited the lesson into a > ten-minute video. > > Yo

[The Java Posse] Re: JavaFX on netbeans 6.7.1 !

2009-07-28 Thread Bill Robertson
Nice. Thanks Tor. On Jul 28, 8:45 pm, TorNorbye wrote: > Yes. You can see which feature clusters are activated in the plugin > manager - and you can deactivate them there too. > > -- Tor > > On Jul 28, 5:37 pm, Bill Robertson wrote: > > > I've seen that in act

[The Java Posse] Re: JavaFX on netbeans 6.7.1 !

2009-07-28 Thread Bill Robertson
e easiest way to get what you want > > and not have to worry about any extras that could potentially cause > > problems. > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Bill Robertson > > wrote: > > > > With NB, its best to download the smallest package and add to i

[The Java Posse] Re: JavaFX on netbeans 6.7.1 !

2009-07-28 Thread Bill Robertson
With NB, its best to download the smallest package and add to it through the plugin manager (tools->plugins). However, I think downloading the JavaFX version of netbeans is probably equivalent to starting with the base and then adding JavaFX. Jan, I don't know if is widespread agreement on good

[The Java Posse] Re: Dick, you might want to hold of that Hero purchase

2009-07-13 Thread Bill Robertson
Normally, I wouldn't have bothered reading such a page, but I like to hear what James Gosling has to say. On Jul 10, 3:13 am, "Vince O'Sullivan" wrote: > On Jul 9, 6:33 am, Bill Robertson wrote: > > > If this interview is to be believed, it doesn&#

[The Java Posse] Re: Dick, you might want to hold of that Hero purchase

2009-07-08 Thread Bill Robertson
If this interview is to be believed, it doesn't sound like they will. http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Application-Development/Gosling-Whats-Good-for-Google-May-Not-be-Good-for-Java-25/ On Jul 8, 2:09 pm, Casper Bang wrote: > Seems like HTC are not the only ones to pimp Google's stock Android. > Ro

[The Java Posse] Re: Flash safe for now: no standard video/audio codecs in HTML 5

2009-07-07 Thread Bill Robertson
Flash performance on Windows is poor too. e.g. go place a decent flash game and watch your CPU usage. The virtual machine just isn't nearly as good. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" g

[The Java Posse] Re: I'd love to use Netbeans but...

2009-07-07 Thread Bill Robertson
Been using the CC plugin for awhile now on Windows. It works well enough. You might want to open an issue in the NB bug database. On Jul 6, 9:10 pm, John Russell wrote: > Curses - ah well. > > Warning - could not install some modules: > Change state of Read-Write-Access - The module named > or

[The Java Posse] Re: more jigsaw vs osgi vs javaposse

2009-07-02 Thread Bill Robertson
a > negative or a criticism. This is a fact of life, that's all.  When that > happens some people are going to align themselves one way or another. That's > it.  Nothing negative implied. > > Eric > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:53 AM, Bill Robertson > wrote: > &g

[The Java Posse] Re: more jigsaw vs osgi vs javaposse

2009-07-01 Thread Bill Robertson
know that the > Jigsaw folks replied to these points, but I think it's also understandable > to question the replies, given the historical rivalry of Sun vs IBM over the > future of Java, and the use of OSGi in Eclipse. > > Eric > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Bill Robe

[The Java Posse] Re: Java Properties

2009-07-01 Thread Bill Robertson
ou think about how objects actually behave in terms of memory > utilization and access speed, it's really not that bad. > >  Alexey > > > From: Bill Robertson > To: The Java Posse > Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 3:06:47 PM > Subje

[The Java Posse] Re: Java Properties

2009-07-01 Thread Bill Robertson
You don't hear much about it, but I think its worth consideration. There is such a thing as the "uniform access principle." Which basically says that there is benefit accessing things in your object the same way. i.e. always get to something via. a function. It doesn't seem like a big deal, but

[The Java Posse] Re: more jigsaw vs osgi vs javaposse

2009-07-01 Thread Bill Robertson
Eric, You took some heat for posting this in the first place, so I think its only fair that you be recognized for doing the right thing. Thanks. On Jun 30, 9:19 am, Eric wrote: > I took this down.  Apologies for the over- reaction. > > Eric > > On Jun 26, 5:24 pm, "phil.swen...@gmail.com" > w

[The Java Posse] Re: Google isn't the one missing the point

2009-06-30 Thread Bill Robertson
"Notice for instance, as you click on a message in GMail, how you navigate to a unique item under your inbox with the back button working as an undo. Could that be done with Silverlight, Flash and JavaFX? " Are asking about tying the browser back button to the Flash, Silverlight, JavaFX applicati

[The Java Posse] Re: Google - missing the point?

2009-06-29 Thread Bill Robertson
I like Mr. Wall w/o the filters, and listening to this episode has finally got me around to getting this off of my chest. Maybe the rest of the world will curse him for winding me up, but I'd like to say thanks. What I find disturbing is the fracturing of the Java runtime and language features.

[The Java Posse] Re: Google isn't the one missing the point

2009-06-29 Thread Bill Robertson
GWT is absolutely not addressable/discoverable. Google can't search your GWT site unless you add something like an atom feed and design the GWT pages to react according when somebody hits a deep (yet fake) link into your site. The same strategy will work for Flash/Silverlight/JavaFX or whatever

[The Java Posse] Re: Java Accessibility and Swing

2009-06-26 Thread Bill Robertson
That is the way it works for me on the mac too. I tried a native application and it worked the same way. It only read the window title at first. However, as I used the tab key to switch between components, it began reading them to me. Your little application did the same thing. So I could get

[The Java Posse] Re: Java FX Studio beta available?

2009-06-19 Thread Bill Robertson
ction suite? it does this already   > today. you just don't get the nice visual assembler. you can take   > photoshop graphics and directly export them to fx, add some code, make   > changes in photoshop, recompile and it works without any code changes. > > On Jun 18, 2009, at 12:27 P

[The Java Posse] Re: Package by feature or layer?

2009-06-19 Thread Bill Robertson
On Jun 18, 7:23 pm, Peter Becker wrote: > I feel similar. NetBeans is quite nice in many regards, but generally > lacking in terms of code hygiene. Between NetBeans not even > auto-formatting generated code and Eclipse fixing dozens of things as > "Save Actions" a lot is still to be done. The li

[The Java Posse] Re: Java FX Studio beta available?

2009-06-18 Thread Bill Robertson
The Adobe plug-ins allow the designer's Photoshop and/or Illustrator work to be artifacts that you consume in the development process of a JavaFX application. So there is no translation process of what it looks like in photoshop to JavaFx. This can be a huge time saver, especially when there are

[The Java Posse] Re: Package by feature or layer?

2009-06-18 Thread Bill Robertson
On Jun 18, 2:18 pm, Erlend Hamnaberg wrote: > I really like Netbeans. But until you get REAL editor support for JAVA, I > can't use it. Can't read your mind, so what do you feel is missing? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed

[The Java Posse] Re: jdk 1.6u13 for OSX

2009-06-15 Thread Bill Robertson
And its only for 64-bit macs correct? On Jun 15, 6:38 pm, Mac wrote: > jdk 1.6 update 13 is now available from OSX software update. > > Yes, the one that fixes the security exploit from sometime back. > Given the amount of discussion it generated on the podcast, > I thought this would be of inte

[The Java Posse] Re: The Gimp

2009-06-15 Thread Bill Robertson
Is the source code for the Adobe exporters available? Would that help facilitate somebody who wanted to port it to the Gimp? On Jun 13, 9:58 pm, Joshua Marinacci wrote: > Thanks for the feedback everyone. > > I'm trying to figure out how we should support the JavaFX Production   > Suite on Linu

[The Java Posse] Re: Help deciding on a design blog name

2009-06-15 Thread Bill Robertson
Now that you've picked a name and you have what you need, and I won't be wasting your time when I make the following silly suggestion. I suggest using Dack's Web 2.0 BS generator for all of your 2009 naming and mission statement needs. enjoy... http://www.dack.com/web/bullshit.html On Jun 13,

[The Java Posse] Re: Episode 246 - a time warp?

2009-05-15 Thread Bill Robertson
What about Groovy Flubber? Where's the love Dick? On May 15, 10:53 am, Dick Wall wrote: > It is for these moments that I wrote jFlubber (and the > subsequent FX Flubber and Flex Flubber), so that I can mark such > moments and rip them out before they annoy people. --~--~-~--~~-

[The Java Posse] Re: New podcast - Illegal Argument

2009-05-12 Thread Bill Robertson
This link takes you to all of the episodes. http://java.about.com/b/2009/04/02/planet-cast-podcast-series.htm Looks like one of the Tor clones is loose in the latest edition. On May 12, 3:51 pm, Dick Wall wrote: > I think the one we mentioned was PlanetCast > -http://java.about.com/b/2009/04/0

[The Java Posse] Re: Microsoft and Java

2009-05-10 Thread Bill Robertson
Ok. It took a tiny bit of digging to find it, (found it in slashdot comments: http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/09/201210) hadoop subproject page: http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/Hbase project page: http://hadoop.apache.org/hbase/ If you check out the "powered by" section of the wiki

[The Java Posse] Re: JavaFX - great idea, bad implementation

2009-05-09 Thread Bill Robertson
One barrier to learning JavaFX is the tooling support. The Netbeans plugin is frequently wrong. e.g. reports false errors, sometimes shows imports as unused when they're not etc... So you're constantly being fed a false stream of information about what is right/wrong as you're attempting to lea

[The Java Posse] Re: Microsoft and Java

2009-05-09 Thread Bill Robertson
Are you referring to the search engine? If so, yes, I agree. On May 9, 1:53 pm, kirk wrote: > weird that they don't use C#. > > Kirk > > Bill Robertson wrote: > >> I don't believe that. Microsoft got burned on that once and today has > >> somethi

[The Java Posse] Re: Microsoft and Java

2009-05-09 Thread Bill Robertson
> I don't believe that. Microsoft got burned on that once and today has > something most would characterize as Java next gen. So if they did it on HDFS (a Hadoop thing) then what did they use? (Since I'm too lazy to go look myself ;-) ) > When I went to download Win7rc1, it was through a simple

[The Java Posse] Microsoft and Java

2009-05-09 Thread Bill Robertson
Maybe the following article is misleading, but it seems to suggest that microsoft will (or already has) implemented their new search engine in Java? http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10235400-16.html And it is (or parts of it are) open source? And they did their own version of bigtable and rele

[The Java Posse] Re: OSS licenses overview

2009-05-08 Thread Bill Robertson
This is a good resource: http://www.opensource.org/licenses On May 8, 8:27 am, Jan Goyvaerts wrote: > Hello JavaPeople, > Does anyone in this group knows about a web site giving an overview of the > various licensing schemes for open source software ? > > Thanks ! > > Jan --~--~-~--~

[The Java Posse] Re: Oracle to buy Sun MSjux

2009-04-21 Thread Bill Robertson
> I think Derby will be around for sometime.  IBM contributed the code > to Apache after IBM acquired a company (I forget the name) It was Cloudscape. JavaDb is just rebranded Apache Derby anyway. Although Sun was paying for people to contribute. IMO doesn't compete with anything that Oracle o

[The Java Posse] Re: Oracle to buy Sun MS

2009-04-20 Thread Bill Robertson
On Apr 20, 12:40 pm, Harlan wrote: > This is awful; far worse than IBM. Oracle is great at leeching from > the revenue streams of their customers; not a company you want > responsible for the future of Java. And IBM isn't? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this m

[The Java Posse] Re: ThreadPoolExecutor core threads, max threads, and unbounded queues

2009-04-13 Thread Bill Robertson
So if you set the core threads equal to what you want the maximum to be and set the maximum equal to n+1, and use your ubounded queue then won't you get what you want? On Apr 7, 7:36 am, Jess Holle wrote: > The two problems are actually different. > >    1. I have numerous cases where I want an

[The Java Posse] Re: IBM in talks to buy Sun?

2009-04-06 Thread Bill Robertson
I was able to get to the story w/o a login. On Apr 5, 11:32 pm, kirk wrote: > Bill Robertson wrote: > > Maybe not... > > >http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/06/technology/business-computing/06blu... > > > On Apr 2, 10:24 pm, ad wrote: > > >> Well it's al

[The Java Posse] Re: IBM in talks to buy Sun?

2009-04-05 Thread Bill Robertson
Maybe not... http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/06/technology/business-computing/06blue.html?_r=2 On Apr 2, 10:24 pm, ad wrote: > Well it's all but official: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/03/technology/business-computing/03blu... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You receiv

[The Java Posse] Re: Don't go to the Netbeans Google Group

2009-03-12 Thread Bill Robertson
Saw that awhile ago. On Mar 12, 11:32 am, CKoerner wrote: > Unless you want to see a great big porn banner on the home page. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this gr

[The Java Posse] Re: What would you recommend?

2009-02-28 Thread Bill Robertson
Back in the day (like 1999), "Just Java" was a great book. I know it has been updated since then, but I'm not sure if its current. Peter van der Linden writes really well. On Feb 27, 5:59 pm, Paul Wallace wrote: > The list of suggestions so far are: > > - Java How to Program, Deitel & Deitel >

[The Java Posse] Re: Where is the JWebPane?

2009-02-25 Thread Bill Robertson
I thought I had read something about a target of Java 7 for it, but I can't find that on Google so that must have been my imagination. The most recent bit I can find about it is here: http://weblogs.java.net/blog/alex2d/archive/2008/12/jwebpane_projec.html (Dec 10) in case you haven't run across

[The Java Posse] Re: Sun should bring Project Semplice back to life - or release the source

2009-02-20 Thread Bill Robertson
Did Semplice offer all of the COM integration? If not then it wouldn't really work in the entire VB ecosystem, so I don't understand how it could replace a legacy system. If it did then, its only going to run on Windows right? So you're losing the cross platform appeal of Java, and what would b

[The Java Posse] Re: JavaFX 1.1 is released

2009-02-13 Thread Bill Robertson
I didn't see much on the javafx site about what else was in the release, but there is some more here. http://weblogs.java.net/blog/opinali/archive/2009/02/javafx_11_relea.html Looks like... Perf improvements. Full screen mode (woot!) Better docs And some tweaks (tweak?) to the library. Thanks!

[The Java Posse] Info World Rates JavaFx

2009-02-10 Thread Bill Robertson
Generally positive review: http://www.infoworld.com/article/09/02/09/06TC-javafx_1.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googleg

[The Java Posse] Re: Java language stagnation and lack of resources

2009-02-09 Thread Bill Robertson
That's a lot of assumptions about a broad group of people you're putting out there. On Feb 9, 9:07 pm, Casper Bang wrote: > That's interesting considering all the FUD generated by the die-hard > Java camp against first-class language support and the associated > complexity of C#. It's funny, alm

[The Java Posse] Re: Java language stagnation and lack of resources

2009-02-05 Thread Bill Robertson
On Feb 4, 11:58 am, gafter wrote: > Although I believe the syntax is not ideal in its current form, I'm > not going to spend more time on it until Sun formally decides they > want to move forward with it, and that's not going to happen in JDK7. I certainly understand that position, but I think i

[The Java Posse] Re: Scala Intro Talk?

2009-02-04 Thread Bill Robertson
If you can say... Are you a consultant? ISV? Working at a company? Small or Large? On Feb 4, 1:33 am, Michael Neale wrote: > On Feb 4, 3:25 pm, Bill Robertson wrote: > > > Great.  I hope I will be able to make it.  Are you using Scala > > professionally? > >

[The Java Posse] Re: Scala Intro Talk?

2009-02-03 Thread Bill Robertson
some ideas. :) > > On Feb 2, 9:49 pm, Bill Robertson wrote: > > > Is this yours by any chance?   > > http://www.cojug.org/index.php?option=com_eventlist&Itemid=27 > > > On Feb 2, 7:21 pm, zorro2b wrote: > > > > Thanks for all the links. Just what I ne

[The Java Posse] Re: Scala Intro Talk?

2009-02-02 Thread Bill Robertson
Is this yours by any chance? http://www.cojug.org/index.php?option=com_eventlist&Itemid=27 On Feb 2, 7:21 pm, zorro2b wrote: > Thanks for all the links. Just what I need :) > > On Feb 3, 2:44 am, Michael wrote: > > > These are the slides from a talk I did last month for the San > > Francisco

[The Java Posse] Re: JavaFX: Not just as a Swing replacement?

2009-02-02 Thread Bill Robertson
On Jan 28, 10:19 am, Weiqi Gao wrote: > + do DOM scripting using JavaFX Script through LiveConnect That's been possible for a long time with Java. Although apparently not reliable until the 1.6u10 release. There is a Google tech talk where the touch on the subject, but I seem to recall that

[The Java Posse] Re: sped up posse.

2009-02-02 Thread Bill Robertson
Was it Robert Dewar? (http://www.stsc.hill.af.mil/CrossTalk/ 2008/01/0801DewarSchonberg.html) On Feb 2, 9:44 am, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: > Hosting problem solved, someone was kind enough to offer. Will check > if he wants his name publicized. > > On Feb 1, 11:48 pm, Michael Neale wrote: > >

[The Java Posse] Re: WidgetFX and transparency on Ubuntu

2009-01-21 Thread Bill Robertson
Its not supported because its not done yet, but they did not want to delay the launch http://blogs.sun.com/javafx/entry/a_word_on_linux_and On Jan 21, 5:24 am, Tim Büthe wrote: > On 21 Jan., 10:57, Steven Herod wrote: > > I think the thing is simple: JavaFX and/or Java 6u10 is only fully > sup

[The Java Posse] Re: Ho Ho Ho

2009-01-14 Thread Bill Robertson
I think it said, "I need to direct traffic to my website. I know, I'll bash Java!" On Jan 14, 10:57 am, Weiqi Gao wrote: > > Come on guys!  Nobody reads what the installation program says.  They > just click on OK and get on with their lives. > > What did your Firefox installation dialog box sa

[The Java Posse] Re: #225 - Wish list for Java 8 and 9

2009-01-14 Thread Bill Robertson
I can see that for "obsolete" libraries, but I have trouble seeing that happening for reified generics. Don't reified generics start at compile time? i.e. is the type erasure is done by javac? If so, I don't see how a modular runtime could help. On Jan 12, 8:27 am, Jess Holle wrote: > Weiqi G

[The Java Posse] Re: #225 Java runs faster on Linux

2009-01-14 Thread Bill Robertson
I agree with, at least partially. NB works fine for me. e.g. No blank dialogs as mentioned earlier, but the UI performance is quite poor. Firefox is horrible too. My laptop is getting a little long in the tooth and it has an ATI card in it, but Windows GUI performance was fine. I wonder if th

[The Java Posse] Re: Java FX update out

2008-12-30 Thread Bill Robertson
hhh shiney... Kudos to the JavaFx team for working so hard during the holiday season immediately after completing a death march project. On Dec 19, 9:10 pm, sherod wrote: > http://blogs.sun.com/javafx/entry/javafx_1_0_sdk_update > > Now with streaming video. > > Seems to work well with my q

[The Java Posse] Re: JavaFX: Impressions?

2008-12-05 Thread Bill Robertson
I will see if I can reproduce it and if so give you the steps as well as relevant software versions. Regarding full screen mode, would you guess 6 months? A year? Two years? I understand that priorities can change, so I won't hold you to it. Our plans for that are in the future anyway, but so

[The Java Posse] Re: JavaFX: Impressions?

2008-12-04 Thread Bill Robertson
All in all, it rocks. I'm downloading the nb plugin. Now that its here and its real, I'm looking forward to using it. Is there a full screen mode? e.g. for kiosks? I ran into a couple issues. (I am not complaining, but I thought you might want to know.) I ran into the same Version "0" thing

[The Java Posse] Re: JavaFX: Impressions?

2008-12-04 Thread Bill Robertson
The website crashed. I was watching the JavaFX driven video when it went down. I ended up with the (Sun Server version of) the Glassfish default page when I hit reload. I'm sure they're just pointing to some emergency backup pages. Which is probably a bigger mistake than admitting the demand b

[The Java Posse] Re: Twitter

2008-11-26 Thread Bill Robertson
've already seen it done as well. > > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Bill Robertson<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think netbeans needs a twitter plugin that is aware of the SCM > > module.  Then when you commit/checkout code your comments > > automatically

[The Java Posse] Re: Twitter

2008-11-25 Thread Bill Robertson
I think netbeans needs a twitter plugin that is aware of the SCM module. Then when you commit/checkout code your comments automatically get posted to twitter. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Ja

[The Java Posse] Re: rss4jsp version 0.1 released

2008-11-25 Thread Bill Robertson
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[The Java Posse] Re: Java builds (maven, ant), the java way is broken!

2008-11-25 Thread Bill Robertson
How is rake (dependency checking + ruby) better than make (dependency checking + shell commands)? Or is rake more than that? I guess it might be more portable. Did anybody watch the 50 in 50 talk? Were they comparing rake to JCL? On Nov 25, 12:39 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[The Java Posse] Re: What would you like to know about JavaFX

2008-11-25 Thread Bill Robertson
Back on topic... How big of a download do you anticipate for the javafx runtime? Will you be taking advantage of pack200 to minimize it, or will that require the application distributor to know how to do? (and therefore fail to do making download times suck? (and hurting the reputation of the p

[The Java Posse] Re: SwingX Painters - Episode 218 Correction

2008-11-24 Thread Bill Robertson
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[The Java Posse] Re: GlassFish [Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Tor: Awesome. (Python4nb)]

2008-10-31 Thread Bill Robertson
Thanks. Keep up the good work. On Oct 30, 11:33 am, "Alexis Moussine-Pouchkine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Bill Robertson > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> We've had some broken builds while working on G

[The Java Posse] Re: Tor: Awesome. (Python4nb)

2008-10-30 Thread Bill Robertson
> We've had some broken builds while working on GlassFish v3 "Prelude", > but it's been stable enough to release a final version very very soon > now. In general, we suggest using "promoted" builds or better yet > "Milestones". Thanks! Is this what you are referring to? https://glassfish.dev.j

[The Java Posse] Re: Tor: Awesome. (Python4nb)

2008-10-29 Thread Bill Robertson
On Oct 28, 10:38 am, Tor Norbye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You should use the nightlies, of course :) As far as you know, is that generally true or were you specifically referring to the python parts? I've been poking around the comet apis lately, and I've found that auto build wreaks havoc wi

[The Java Posse] Re: why is javadoc stuck in 1997?

2008-10-27 Thread Bill Robertson
A really cheap fix is to use firefox, and to have the option that begins searching as soon as you begin typing enabled. On Oct 27, 12:25 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why is it that JavaDoc still doesn't have an embedded javascript > search and auto-complete. There are 100

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