Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Full Time Telecommuting

2010-09-09 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Andrew am2...@gmail.com wrote: Just to add to my earlier email. In terms of career development working from home may not always be the best move. Particularly if you have small children. They make your manager's interruptions seem infrequent. :) -Dom --

[The Java Posse] Re: Full Time Telecommuting

2010-09-08 Thread Casper Bang
I've seen enough, it's like the NetScape campus 2.0. But I remember hearing Tor mention it as as reason why he'd not be so interested. All you really need is a shower, we all know the great ideas comes to us in the shower! On Sep 8, 12:32 am, Josh McDonald j...@joshmcdonald.info wrote: Who'd

[The Java Posse] Re: Full Time Telecommuting

2010-09-08 Thread Christian Catchpole
All my previous tele work has come out of the trust, love and/or respect of people I have formally worked with in the trenches. I moved to Sydney from Brisbane and then worked in various parts of the states. I wouldn't expect any (sane) employer to offer tele work (of any significant importance)

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Full Time Telecommuting

2010-09-08 Thread Josh McDonald
Don't worry, we're all thinkin' it :) On 9 September 2010 08:51, Christian Catchpole christ...@catchpole.netwrote: All my previous tele work has come out of the trust, love and/or respect of people I have formally worked with in the trenches. I moved to Sydney from Brisbane and then worked

[The Java Posse] Re: Full Time Telecommuting

2010-09-08 Thread Michael Neale
yeah trust is essential. But then, if you can't trust them, having them in an office for regular hours helps how? Oh right, that is why everyone fails... People ask me this a lot, but I don't have an answer. The most reliable one (which is not what I do) is essentually freelance of short term

[The Java Posse] Re: Full Time Telecommuting

2010-09-08 Thread Christian Catchpole
Maybe trust wasn't the best choice of word. Maybe I mean not just trustworthy but knowing how they tick, their strengths and weaknesses and what kind of results you will expect from them - combined with the kind of work your team (or lack of) does. My former employers knew they could throw

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Full Time Telecommuting

2010-09-08 Thread Josh McDonald
Yeah, I don't see the trust thing the way most people do either. If you can't tell whether your getting your money's worth out of your employee based on what they actually produce rather than how many hours they sit in a chair, you've got bigger problems. Give employee money, employee gives you

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Full Time Telecommuting

2010-09-08 Thread Robert Casto
So bringing this back to something John can use. What should he do to find a job without having to move? I have struggled with that same question living in the Midwest. All the good jobs seem to be on the coasts. I lived in Seattle for a couple years and loved working for Amazon.com. I have to

[The Java Posse] Re: Full Time Telecommuting

2010-09-08 Thread Michael Neale
Use contacts/network to find someone that could use you - make it a good deal for them - dont necessarily expect fulltime etc... (but be open to it). On Sep 9, 10:34 am, Robert Casto casto.rob...@gmail.com wrote: So bringing this back to something John can use. What should he do to find a job

[The Java Posse] Re: Full Time Telecommuting

2010-09-08 Thread Andrew
I'm one of the lucky(?) folks who telecommutes full time. I was originally a Java developer whose career path seen me end up primarily developing with ColdFusion (which I would claim is a JVM language... :)) and a little bit of Java. In 2005 I moved from Newcastle, Australia to Sydney to work

[The Java Posse] Re: Full Time Telecommuting

2010-09-08 Thread Andrew
Just to add to my earlier email. In terms of career development working from home may not always be the best move. I understand I would have a developer reporting to me had I been present in the office, however because I am remote he reports to my manager instead. -- You received this message

[The Java Posse] Re: Full Time Telecommuting

2010-09-07 Thread DaveE
I've been trying to get into it as well. Beware some online telecommuting agency sites. Why is it when most agencies fall over themselves to get their normal job ads out there these telecommute sites demand that you pay a subscription fee to join before seeing full job descriptions and/or

[The Java Posse] Re: Full Time Telecommuting

2010-09-07 Thread Casper Bang
Robert's experience is by far the most common - that you gradually get into a work from home scenario when trust has been gained. Yup, that has been the case for me as well. I don't really see any alternative, there are only so many libraries that can to be written in isolation. Sun and

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Full Time Telecommuting

2010-09-07 Thread Paul Gearon
I've been telecommuting for the past few years, but I have to say that I don't know how you'd get a telecommuting job! Luckily for me, I have a specialized skillset that has had employers ask me to work for them. In that case, you have the option of saying that you don't want to (or, in my case,

[The Java Posse] Re: Full Time Telecommuting

2010-09-07 Thread Chris Adamson
Independent consulting/contracting can be a sort of full-time telecommuting, provided you turn down the 95% of positions that are on- site. This is a different scenario from what some of the other folks are talking about, in which you have a single full-time employer and work from home. I've

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Full Time Telecommuting

2010-09-07 Thread Josh McDonald
Who'd telecommute to Google? Have you seen their office? ;-) On 8 September 2010 01:51, Casper Bang casper.b...@gmail.com wrote: Robert's experience is by far the most common - that you gradually get into a work from home scenario when trust has been gained. Yup, that has been the case for