KR builders,
I’m installing stainless fuel tanks in wing stubs in order to have room
behind the panel of my KR2-S. I’ve searched the archives but couldn’t find
any argument to keep a header tank.
Other than less capacity, am I missing any other disadvantages?
Thanks,
Brett
N# TBD
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Brian said,
"I have been hanging upside down by the seatbelt in a KR with the header
tank on fire. All the fuel in the wings is wise advice."
What happened next? That has to be against rule #17 (I think) regarding
excess brevity. Where the heck is the moderator.
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> Even though I have no interest in having fuel in front of me, a removable
> front deck appeals to me for servicing
> Does this weaken the structure at all though?
Chris and all,
Having the front deck removable is absolutely one of the best modifications
you can do to your KR. After 469 hours
I removed the header tank from the BlackBird and put in wing tanks. This
did not affect the structure at all. After that, it was a true blessing to
be able to not only be able to get to the instrument panel and brakes, but
to have all that room for instrument modules. Even the RV guys were
jealo
Chris Prata wrote:
> Even though I have no interest in having fuel in front of me, a
removable front deck appeals to me for servicing. Does this weaken the
structure at all though?
It's very doubtful that the front and aft decks were considered in the
structural analysis of the KR. They are
Even though I have no interest in having fuel in front of me, a removable front
deck appeals to me for servicing
Does this weaken the structure at all though?
>
> I would like to point out for those in the building process that it is
> extremely important to make your header tank removable.
Larry Bell did a nice job of this- he is using hinges with removable pins down
each side of the tank, pull the pins and the top comes off, leave the pins and
maintain rigidity
Bill Masquelier
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 21:09:12 -0500
> Subject: Re: KR>
I would like to point out for those in the building process that it is
extremely important to make your header tank removable. Whether built of
vinyl ester or aluminum, being able to remove the tank and your forward
deck is of incalculable benefit. My first KR, Sparky's KR and many if
not most of
At 05:55 PM 1/21/2011, you wrote:
>Back to the original question, which had to do with the merits or
>detriments of using a header tank and flying around with fuel in
>front of you.
++
certainly everyone has their own l
"However, the percentage of deaths per mile driven happening because of
vehicle accidents has remained fairly constant over the years."
Todd, the automobile safety guy who gave you this information was way
off base. Deaths per mile driven have decreased greatly over the years
and the trend cont
Remember that until recently, almost all KRs were built and flown with
header tanks. I have never seen an appreciable change in CG either, but
also have a 12 gallon header tank. However, when carrying a lot of baggage
in the right seat, in my first KR, I could definitely tell the difference on
fl
Most crashes of the KR off field have been due to no fuel. The last
crash that I can remember of a KR with fuel on board, if it had a
header tank, would have been under the right wing.
Lee
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 17, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Larry&Sallie Flesner
wrote:
> At 09:31 AM 1/17/20
Okay one last quick thought.
I promise.
I once saw a gentleman who works in the field of Automobile safety talking
about the fact that Autos have improved tremendously over the last few
decades, as far as safety design goes. We now have seat belts, airbags,
Anti-Lock Brakes, Energy Abs
While I only have a 10th of the time in my KR2S as Joe has in his, I agree
with his opinions. The majority of my time in the airplane so far has been
in 3 hour legs flying from coast to coast, and I can say without
hesitation that I never adjusted the trim once during the entire trip. It is
> Ray, Don't sweat it. I have the 12 gal header tank from Rand sitting in my
> lap. I accept the risk.
I kept my header tank and one magneto in case I ever have to shut the electric
system off.
k management.let the fire
begin,Joe HortonCoopersburg, PA.565hours KR2s
-- Forwarded Message --
From: Ray Fuenzalida
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> header tank
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:36:26 -0800 (PST)
You guys are scaring me.� And I thought I had s
You guys are scaring me. And I thought I had such a good plan. We'll see.
Ray
New Orleans
--- On Mon, 1/17/11, Larry&Sallie Flesner wrote:
From: Larry&Sallie Flesner
Subject: KR> header tank
To: "KRnet"
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Monday, January 17, 201
At 09:31 AM 1/17/2011, you wrote:
>That's one reason I
>don't have a header tank. The other is the fuel in close proximity to lots
>of wires and electricity, not to mention my vital organs.
+++
That's also the reason I totally eliminated the
Stephen Teate wrote:
>>Your point is noted KR's with large header tanks are subject to
>>significant C.G. changes that need to be addressed and I will do that. In
>>fact, during flight test I intend to evaluate just how my particular
>>airplane performs with a more forward C.G. <<
And that "si
"Make sure you accurately calculate the
C.G.range for safe flight. It will shift aft considerably during flight."
You are absolutely correct. Add to this the known flight characteristics of
KR's with aft C.G.'s and my self-imposed limit of 2" from the aft C.G. limit
and you end up with a real
At 08:10 AM 1/14/2011, you wrote:
>I am using a single aluminum header tank for simplicity reasons. The
>tank holds 21 gallons and is very stout.
+++
That is 125 pounds of fuel and will make considerable c
have, I intend to have a
"sight gauge" on the header so I can always see how much fuel I have.
Ray
New Orleans
--- On Fri, 1/14/11, Jose Fuentes wrote:
From: Jose Fuentes
Subject: Re: KR> header tank hold downs
To: "KRnet"
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: F
"What different types of Header tank hold downs are being used in the KR?"
I am using a single aluminum header tank for simplicity reasons. My tank spans
from top longeron to top longeron and is rather uniquely shaped on the back
side due to instruments and radios. It also has a bend in it to ac
Yea thats what I was planning on doing as well, to make it easier to do
maintaince and annuals and such. Though what if you use strips of
Rubber between the frame and the tank? That way it's not resting directly on
the frame?
Even if you use straps you probably want to use rubber on the straps to
What different types of Header tank hold downs are being used in the KR? Toni
B. book states to use straps and do not rest the tank on the plane frame. I
will have a separate removable header tank that is not connected to the forward
deck.
Steve Phillabaum
KR2Swide
Shorter, Alabama
334-740-00
Steven wrote:
I was thinking of doing like others and
placing them on the firewall shelf but wasn't sure because of the
close proximity of the fuel tank.
Steven,
As long as raw fuel cannot get to them, the shelf if a good location.
Use the location of the battery to balance out your weight and
I have a stock kr-2s with a 12 gallon header tank and I plan on installing
a 2700 corvair engine. Where would be the best place to install the
battery and ignition coils? I was thinking of doing like others and
placing them on the firewall shelf but wasn't sure because of the
close proximity of
Dave, I have a vinyl-ester header tank that Brian Kraut made for me last year
that fits a KR2. I did not use it and will part with it for what Brian charged
me $125. Let me know off net if you are interested and I'll send you pictures.
Jim Brewer
KR2 N216CB
ust my 2-cents
Noel B.
--- On Wed, 3/17/10, Dan Heath wrote:
From: Dan Heath
Subject: RE: KR> Header Tank Rework
To: "'KRnet'"
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 6:29 PM
KR cloth will work, but you must use Vinyl Ester resin, if it was made w
How about lamenting your existing panel to add 1 1/2" to it without actually
moving it. The only down side is you have move all your existing instrument to
the new panel surface.
Just my 2-cents
Noel B.
--- On Wed, 3/17/10, Dan Heath wrote:
From: Dan Heath
Subject: RE: KR> Hea
bject: KR> Header Tank Rework
Hello all! I just bought a flying KR2 and am in the process of adding
some instrumentation. I discovered that the new instruments are about 1
1/2" longer than I have room for, and it appears that moving the panel
is not a viable option.
I would ap
consuming modes to my aircraft. I just want to fly.
Regards
Barry
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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Dave Dunwoodie
Sent: Thursday, 18 March 2010 8:20 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> Header Tank Rework
Hello all! I j
Hello all! I just bought a flying KR2 and am in the process of adding
some instrumentation. I discovered that the new instruments are about 1
1/2" longer than I have room for, and it appears that moving the panel
is not a viable option.
I would appreciate some information concerning what type
Oscar said: Inquiring minds want to know just what the deck angle might be
on climb out...
Thinking of some racing technology, why not install the fuel line/pickup at
the rear of the tank, maybe adding a small sump to make the lowest point at
the rear middle of the tank (it would then be closest t
One lister made a comment stating that with a large header tank only,
"setting up" for a refueling stop during a XC could be
hazardous/interesting/???, I
don't remember the exact word. Are we referring to change in C/L or
sloshing of fuel in the tank or what?
Mike McGowan
N4288C
Mike McGowan wrote:
> One lister made a comment stating that with a large header tank only,
> "setting up" for a refueling stop during a XC could be
> hazardous/interesting/???, I
> don't remember the exact word. Are we referring to change in C/L or
> sloshing of fuel in the tank or what?
He w
Netters
Doe's anybody have a drawing of a small 8-9 gallon header tank.I would like to
use the arched part of the front deck as part of it if possible.I going to make
it out of aluminum,but any drawings would be great.Send them to
glid...@ccrtc.com thanks Bob
Bob Glidden
Eminence,Indiana
KR2S
Look at SUMMIT Racing.com or their catalog - they have some nice tanks that
may work for you.
Doe's anybody on the net have a drawing of a small 8 - 10 gallon header tank or
know of a source to buy one? I would really like it made from Aluminum,but
would be open to any idea.I really don't want it much bigger then 10
gallons.I'll be at lodge till later,but will answer anyone who replies
--- Bob Glidden wrote:
> Does anybody on the net have a drawing of a small 8
> - 10 gallon header tank or know of a source to buy
> one? I would ... be open to any idea.
> Bob Glidden
Bob,
I really like the PVC drainage-pipe tanks on Bill
Clapp's wings. This stuff can be made nearly any
size
re: header tank vent
Larry,
I read your email re: the header tank vent and can share this experience with
you.
A month or so ago, I posted a note on the net about the trouble I was having
with the engine cutting out as soon as I leveled out on my first 3 flights. I
thought about applying fo
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