Re: [lace] Hand or machine- emerging sensibilities?

2007-12-11 Thread robinlace
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much credit should be accorded on finishing? Even on a point system divided between different aspects, a nicely hand finished piece picks up 10 points over one that is not. But my emerging feeling is that, since judging impacts the development of the craf

Re: [lace] Re: Hand or machine- emerging sensibilities?

2007-12-11 Thread Adele Shaak
These days, if I ever make lace for something like a hankie, I tend to hem the hankie separately (either by machine or a rolled hem by hand) and attach the lace by overcasting (by hand). It's not as pretty, but I can tak the lace off easily. I do this, too, for much the same reason. It's not t

[lace] Hand or machine

2007-12-11 Thread Beth Schoenberg
Lynn in Wollongong wrote: I did a Christening gown with my handmade torchon attached with a machine and then had the audacity to do machine embroidery on the gown. I didn't put it in a competition because I was told it wasn't traditional and that it wouldn't "comply" - do I care - nope -

[lace] Re: Hand or machine- emerging sensibilities?

2007-12-11 Thread Tamara P Duvall
On Dec 11, 2007, at 10:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Devon) wrote: Clay speaks of doing laborious hand mounting only of things to be judged. Speaking from the perspective of a person who has been called in to judge lace on occasion, I find the hand-finishing issue troubling. Some pieces are very b

[lace] My Beds Lace tips.

2007-12-11 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Jean L. Many thanks for that tip on tying off the knots without having to pull them through. I can understand what you say, and will try it next time. Sounds very clever and easy! Isn't this list Great, when we can share ideas so easily from across the world.? Regards from Liz in Melbourne

[lace] Lace Police

2007-12-11 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
"not good enough to take a workshop" - Isn't this what workshops are for -- to improve one's skills, and learn something new? Thought Police should be a banned group!! :) I am a bit Radical, so they have a 'field day' with me!!! One or two of them have given up on me, - so I con

Re: [lace] To the lace makers.

2007-12-11 Thread Cindy Rusak
Hi All, I just saw my mistake - it should have read '$1 a yard'. Cindy At 02:47 PM 12/11/2007, Malvary J Cole wrote: Cindy wrote : "I don't know why you would spend so much time doing that when you can go and buy lace for $! a yard at Walmart" - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [lace] To the lace makers.

2007-12-11 Thread Laceandbits
One of my students *used to* make assorted quick crafts for a local self-help group. One year they asked her to make them some lace, so she chose some simple bookmark patterns that she could do in a couple of evenings and made several. She finished them off in a plastic sleeve with a 'hand-mad

FW: [lace] To the lace makers.

2007-12-11 Thread Lynne Cumming
<< I have a question for all of you: What do you do with the lace? Do you sell it or embellish you linen or clothing?>> I make lace for gifts for friends who will appreciate it. When I first started I made a lace owl and put it in a brooch for my daughter. Smeone saw it in a shop and when she dis

RE: [lace] Hand or machine

2007-12-11 Thread Lynn Scott
Does it ever occur to the "tradition" fusspots that if those women had machines, better lighting, better pins, etc., they would not have availed themselves of the convenience of machine sewing their lace onto garments so they had more time to make lace? I did a Christening gown with my handmade

RE: [lace] Hand or machine

2007-12-11 Thread Noelene Lafferty
Robin, I couldn't agree more about the rudeness of just the occasional rare lacemaker who puts others off making lace. A met a lady recently who had just sold her pillow, bobbins and the couple of books she had because of such a remarkI'm attempting now to get her interested again - she has on

Re: [lace] To the lace makers.

2007-12-11 Thread Malvary J Cole
Cindy wrote : "I don't know why you would spend so much time doing that when you can go and buy lace for $! a yard at Walmart" I had a similar instance to that one day when I was demonstrating. One lady asked if I ever sell my lace and I said no because people don't want to pay what it is wor

[lace] New buddy map / mailto on MS-IE

2007-12-11 Thread Clive & Betty Rice
The Lacemakers' World May works fine. I registered the other day but never showed up until the "repair." It's great! Who are you- "Lacy"- in Blacksburg on the world map? I didn't know of any bobbin lacemakers there. Is it Dearl? Maybe we could get together! Happy Lacemaking, Betty Ann Rice

Re: [lace] To the lace makers.

2007-12-11 Thread Cindy Rusak
Hi Jeanette, You are not overvaluing your lace. A few years ago I was showing a fellow seamstress my lace (it was yardage) and her comment was "I don't know why you would spend so much time doing that when you can go and buy lace for $! a yard at Walmart" I knew there was no sense in even tr

Re: [lace] To the lace makers.

2007-12-11 Thread Jeanette Fischer
- Original Message - From: "Marin Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a question for all of you: What do you do with the lace? Do you sell it or embellish you linen or clothing?>> This year my DD and DIL are getting hand towels with a lace edging as Christmas gifts. Someone in our gui

Re: [lace] Hand or machine- emerging sensibilities?

2007-12-11 Thread Laceandbits
"Even on a point system divided between different aspects, a nicely hand finished piece picks up 10 points over one that  is not. But my emerging feeling is that, since judging impacts  the development of the craft, I would like to encourage more and better  lacemaking, not laborious French sewing.

[lace] Hand or machine- emerging sensibilities?

2007-12-11 Thread Dmt11home
Clay speaks of doing laborious hand mounting only of things to be judged. Speaking from the perspective of a person who has been called in to judge lace on occasion, I find the hand-finishing issue troubling. Some pieces are very beautifully hand finished, representing a huge amount of time

RE: [lace] Buddy map

2007-12-11 Thread J. Falkink
Sorry for not counting to ten and reacting a bit impatient. It has been a weird day and still is. All your questions slowly teach me what I should have put on the map page and didn't. There is allways a struggle between telling too little, or telling too much. Shortly after my impatient reaction I

Re: [lace] Buddy map

2007-12-11 Thread Jean Nathan
Decided not to be on the map any more, whether it be out in the cold at the old gas works site or where I really live. Seems there's no way to delete your own entry. I've asked the moderator to remove my bubble completely. Hope she does. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - Original Message - Fr

Re: [lace] Re:To the lace makers/using our lace

2007-12-11 Thread sue
Bev, this sounds lovely and to hear the sounds of people who do appreciate the beauty of it is brilliant. I will have to investigate somewhere that can really make use of a little something annually, I often wish there was something for them to go towards helping their appeals for funds but ha

RE: [lace] Buddy map

2007-12-11 Thread J. Falkink
Please do read everything below the map. I wrote it for that purpose, but if its clear as mud please explain what needs more explanation. After all English is not my native tongue. Fill in the form between the map and the horizontal line, hit the "go to step 2" button and continue to read all instr

[lace] Buddy map

2007-12-11 Thread Margot Walker
On 11 Dec 2007, at 06:24, J. Falkink wrote: I suppose the safari oops will be solved together with the MS-IE solution I just announced. Yes, it works properly now. (I kind of liked oops as an email address :D ) Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada Visit the Seaspray Guild

Re: [lace] Buddy map

2007-12-11 Thread Jean Nathan
What green marker? There's a purple one where it thinks I am, and red ones appear when they think they will, but nothing green. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - Original Message - From: J. Falkink To: 'Brenda Paternoster' ; 'Jean Nathan' Cc: 'Lace' Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:2

Re: [lace] Lacy Portrait on Cover of December 2007 "Antiques" Magazine

2007-12-11 Thread Jean Leader
An interesting thing about that portrait is that there is another portrait in the same collection, also attributed to William Larkin, of Anne Cecil, Countess of Stamford in which she is wearing the same dress as Diana but the lace ruff and cuffs are different. The background is the same and the

Re: [lace] Bobbin Lace Survey

2007-12-11 Thread Jean Leader
I don't mind winding bobins, sewings or tallies. Making prickings and sewing on to fabric are ok too. What I do hate is taking out pins and finding a mistake or a long loop where a thread has got caught round a pin. Jean Glasgow, Scotland - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] cont

RE: [lace] Buddy map

2007-12-11 Thread J. Falkink
You can't edit, but re-enter and follow the instructions, that is: drag the green marker to the correct position. Then click the 'report abuse or mistake' in the old bubble and convince the moderator to delete the old entry (as I mailed on Arachne before, at least I intended to). I suppose the saf

Re: [lace] My Beds Lace tips.

2007-12-11 Thread Jean Leader
Elizabeth Ligeti wrote: I tie my knots, and leave longish ends, and then pull the knots through to the wrong side, and weave the ends in. You can avoid the tedious business of pulling the threads through to the wrong side by knotting the threads over the ones already tied off. It's a bit diff

RE: [lace] New buddy map / mailto on MS-IE

2007-12-11 Thread J. Falkink
Hello spiders I installed a quick-and-dirty solution for the MS-IE mailto problem. The dirty aspect you'll notice by the needles empty page that comes along with popping up a new e-mail. But at least it works now. Thank you all for your patiente. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [lace] Buddy map

2007-12-11 Thread Brenda Paternoster
On the old buddy map I positioned myself fairly accurately (wrong side of the road though) using the postcode, but there doesn't seem to be a way of editing this on the new system - or have I missed something? BTW, The email doesn't work properly with Safari, it just puts "oops" into the addre

[lace] Buddy map

2007-12-11 Thread Jean Nathan
Sue has said: <> I was amused when looking at the map to see that I have been relocated to living in the middle of the neighboring town's golf course!> I had an email from Liz Pass to say that she'd looked at the map, and it shows that I live at the Old Power Station site on the other side of

Re: [lace] Re: lace Hand or Machine

2007-12-11 Thread Brenda Paternoster
If I mount by machine I use a narrow zig-zag with the distance of the lengthways holes about the same as the distance from one side to the other - similar spacing to the hand sewn triangular stitch but on a smaller scale than I can manage by hand! Brenda On 11 Dec 2007, at 07:28, Joy Beeson w