Having been away for a couple of days, I'm a bit late picking up on some of
these threads but...
The change of description is there, but as someone else said, I'm inclined to
think these are modern, commercial Chinese or whatever, not Granny-made.
What did amuse me however is if you
It looks like we're getting to him/her!!
The seller is now saying he/she is having doubts about it being a lace
bobbin, and has given two enquiries to that effect. Hasn't published mine (or
Amanda's, I don't think) and has changed the story from 'selling it for someone
else' to 'bought it at
I thought it was probably a stiletto. The LH end in the photo looks like the
start of the taper and I have seen one before with a Stanhope in.
Jacquie
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The ebay 'bobbin' isn't a bobbin..
And the seller must know this very well, because as well as Jean writing to
her, she has some very nice bobbins for sale. BUT, considering her feedback,
I'm
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i appreciate this very much. i am sure i can make enough of them to start
a small project in tatting this way.
Hi Suzi, how are you VBG
You only need one shuttle to start to tat! Eventually when you are
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I wonder if ebay item# 8194265826.is the same as or a different version
to.images
provided by Tess Parrish.
Very probably, I'm going to write and ask them VBG Do you think they'll
tell me?
Hi everyone interested in this subject. I answered Kathy privately but have
been reading the other replies. What I have been interested in is the
suggestion that you need to tie the workers against the first passive pair
either the
first time or even every time.
When I was taught Milanese
While I was away this weekend I bought from a junk stall a delightful pink
satin corset. I don't know a lot about underwear and wonder if there is
anyone that could give me some ideas about date.
It is waist length (10 from the highest arch of the bust shape), the front
boned top to bottom.
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I seem to get a series of holes just inside the outside edge, which I don't
like in a naturalistic pattern.
This is an integral part of this method which Pat sometimes refers to as
'fully-fashioned shaping'
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I'm so excited, this is the first time I will be taking a 24-hour class.
Make sure you get lots of sleep beforehand then VBG
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There is a bobbin lace instruction book in Russian on eBay right now
These books (there are two) are not 'rare' in the way that the seller is
implying. I bought them about 2 years ago and I have seen them for
WOW, that is really amazing, fantastic news. There couldn't be a better,
more deserving award person for all she has done teaching so many people with
so
many types of lace in general and with the research and development of
Milanese in particular.
I must practise my curtsey!
Jacquie
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There are three turning stitch variations that I know of, my definition of
a turning stitch being the way to reverse direction without a pin, and this is
how it has been referred to by the various teachers I have studied, with
regardless of the movements used.
First is the one that Tamara
Presumably the need for a green card doesn't only apply to Canadian
teachers?
and
Some of my friends have presented at scientific conferences in the US and
it's always been a hassle for them to get work visas - and that's when some
admin department somewhere has been doing all the leg work and
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You'll need two work cloths and, for both laces, you'll need similiar ones
- a square or round cloth with a small (no more than 2) hole in the middle.
Depends on who the teacher for Honiton is! Really you
Jeri is cruel bringing this to our attention when I already have s much
lace I should be doing. I also make Kumihimo braids and am interested in
comparing the two ways of making a braided/woven lace. I've not started yet
(resisting hard as I'm about to go on a 2 day Withof course with
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What struck me as being odd, is that they are doing this for money, but
making BL with lots of petals which surely isn't the quickest of techniques.
A
lot of Asian/Chinese torchon/Cluny typle BL also has
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Is there a general rule of thumb for enlarging or reducing a pattern if
you wish to use the /Threads for/ /Lace/ book and use a different size
thread than the pattern recommends?
To add to what Tamara said,
Clay said So the short answer to your question is that these bobbins aren't
any more expensive than others, but they are more fragile, so the expense will
be in breakage.
But on the other hand, I have probably a dozen glass bobbins and in 25+ years
have only ever broken one. That was on my
I have a half worked version of this as a wool on a printed canvas tent
stitch embroidery. I bought it from a lace supplier (Hornsby is ringing memory
bells) many years ago. It is not a great success as the scale of the stitches
does not suit the detail in the picture, especially around the
I have been thinking about my favourite bobbins for the Canadian Lacemaker
Gazette and in the process considered a style of bobbin that I bought at the
Nottingham Lace Museum (where the machines were on show) many years ago. And
then when I was teaching this week, I noticed one of my students
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I have even heard of lace guilds selling books
Yes, The Lace Guild is, but when they get 'common' books as part of a
bequest, and have several copies when even one is rarely borrowed anyway,
surely it
is
After mentioning that I had some books for sale, I have had several requests
for a list. First of all, let me remind you that I am in England, so if
you're not the shipping will increase the price considerably!
I don't have time to post the list this week as I am away on Friday to teach
lace
Hi Suzy
Try twisting the thread 5 times - the number of twists depends on the
thickness of the thread and the size of the pin. You need just enough for the
little
twisted cord to fit round the pin and 5 is usually about right for medium
weight thread.
I guess you are doing picots on the
I'm sure most of the experienced lacemakers on Arachne know this trick, but
we have lots of newer lacemakers now and I don't remember seeing this here
before.
If you have a major spill with your pillow, to the extent that bobbins are
caught up on the pins as distinct from *just* severely
Waxing thread for sewing goes back a good many years - probably hundreds -and
was a standard *must do* for buttonholes, especially heavy 'tailored'
garments. They were done with linen, cotton or silk thread depending on
fashion and
fabric. I'm sure that if it caused the thread to rot away after
I confess there isn't any lace content in this at all, except it may help
clarify the discussion that has been ongoing on the Lace board.
The different colours of beeswax are dependant on how long it's been in the
hive. The freshly built comb and the cappings (the wax the bees use to seal
the
It could also be that those threads were broken in the fall. Before I learnt
of this trick, my grandson (then about 15 months old, now 18yrs!) 'played'
with my lace pillow when his mum was house sitting for us. It was a piece of
Bucks with about 40 or so pairs. She had shown it to a lace
In her excellent report on the convention, JoAnne made the following comment
.and got to sit in on the Lier Lace Class with Greet Rome-Verbeylen in
the afternoon.
Does this mean that she was not actually taking part in the class, but was
there as an observer?
I have heard of this practise
Phew, that's a whole different thing. A few people wandering in and out,
respecting the rest of the class, is a normal situation practically anywhere
there is more than one class in progress at a time.
In the embroidery classes I was saying about the observers payed a reduced
fee as they are
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So don't worry - there were no free-loaders!!
My worries as far as IOLI conventions go have been more than soothed, but I
would like to say just once more that the observers in the class set up I was
I know that for those of you who were able to go to Denver it will still be
fresh in your minds, but the post from Janice yesterday about the 2008
convention has made me stop and think that everything is very quiet about
Montreal.
I'm sure that they were being diplomatic and waiting for this
I use an ordinary round embroidery frame, with a bound inner hoop, for
Coggeshall and haven't had any trouble with the net slipping. Use a
screwdriver to
tighten the screw. It's obvious once it's been pointed out, and all but the
cheapest frames have a screwdriver slot cut in the turney
Now that (hopefully) the symetrical red herring has been put to bed I would
like to say I wrote to Debra to ask how strictly the 2D aspect of it will be
enforced as I was thinking of some of the Jana Novak type designs where a
section in the centre is rolled or folded and then tucked under
I would never have the patience to do something like that.
This is one of the most common comments, in response to which I usually
either ask what their hobbies are (if they have any at all) or ask them if
they
knit. I then say I don't have the patience to do plain knitting (that's what
my
So far no-one has mentioned none US/Canadian entries. I am occilating
between I really want to have a go and push the boundaries on this one and
Be
realistic, you haven't got enough hours in the day for this big piece of lace
on
top of the rest that *has to* be made for various reasons.
I
Bev said I don't see a problem here, except that the entrants have to allow
for mailing time.
Apart from the risk of it getting lost in the post, this to me is the biggest
problem at all!
Jacquie
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At the Burgley Horse Trials a couple of weeks ago, although even the *very*
expensive designer dressmakers weren't using much lace, a lot was being worn,
especially fine netty, neatly-fitted overblouses with peplums. Particularly
noticable was a cream over navy - very fine lace so the navy was
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We set a date of entries being in my hands by July 1st, so that all
paperwork could be checked (don't ask, you'd be surprised what can be
missed from forms), and also so that labels and judging sheets could be
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IOLI Officers aren't paid for their time, that's why they call us
volunteers. *big grin*
I think I am right in saying that the officers for the UK lace societies
aren't paid for their *time*, that's the
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Now I have a question about this design. Do the two flaps that fold
over the pillow truly keep it from sliding out the end of this
carrier? I'd worry about that.
A length of velcro or a button or two
Not a specific yarn for argyle as far as I know, but there are several makes
of wool dyed specifically for socks that give an imitation fairisle or
stripes. Sirdar Town and Country (not sure if you can get this in the States),
Regia
(German I think, but available in the US), and Opal (also
The frontispiece and first chapter of Margaret Maidment's Manual of
Hand-Made Bobbin Lace Work is all about sprang/Egyptian twisted lace. She
says there
are two types of Egyptian lace found in the tombs. The first is knotted from
which the filet lace is developed (and I would have thought
Kathy told us how upsetting it was when she took her first piece of lace off
the pillow and it twisted.
Well, Kathy, I don't know how long you've been subscribed to Arachne but not
so very long ago Brenda Paternoster was trying to do a 'research project' to
establish which combination of
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http://www.tsgny.org
So... Why isn't there a link to IOLI on this site?
Thanks for sharing it with us, lots of interesting sites to explore.
Jacquie
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Apart from pointing you to the materials made for scrapbooking where 12x12
is a common size and everything is archival quality, one suggestion I would
make is to stop thinking that you have to display your lace on dark blue.
I think this came into being when tissue paper was either white or
Suzi,
The more I read of your shall I/shan't I buy this thread or that, the more
convinced I am that what your *need to buy first* is Brenda's book Threads for
Lace 3. This would answer all your questions and solve all your problems
and dilemmas as to which thread to buy and which one is a
I have found the is it, isn't it discussion about the (possible) Haskins
bobbin very interesting but would like to add my tuppence worth about the
spangles.
Perhaps the first lesson to bobbin 'forgers' should be - make a completely
random spangle with thick wire, using beads, buttons and
Suzi,
I would like to back up everything Tamara said.
A definition of what makes lace weight wool depends entirely on what scale
lace you are making. If you want a Torchon scarf made in wool, you'd probably
use an ordinary medium-weight knitting yarn and have the pricking adjusted to
suit
Have a look at the silk yarns sold by Texere, some of these described as
tussah silk, there are several pages of assorted silks and silk mixes. Not so
many in colour, but it is easy to dye, either as yarn or finished lace. I use
their Regency silk for fine-ish lace, and this does come in
I was always taught, by our dressmaker-teacher mother, my school dressmaking
teacher, and by my college teachers when I was doing a fashion course that all
buttonholes are done with buttonhole stitch.
This is a knotted stitch, worked by putting the needle into place and then
taking the
The crux of the matter here is that the bobbins in question are Victorian
Midlands bobbins, made by probably low-income, village bobbin makers. It is
known that quite a few of these people probably made the bulk of their income
from
their bobbin and their skill is absolutely undeniable. If they
One possibility that has not yet been mentioned is that England had a
number of its men in the Indian subcontinent at some point (the Raj). It
is not inconcevable that some of these men had ivory and exotic wood
bobbins made for gifts to sweethearts and family back in England.
Certainly, a lot of
Before we advertise elsewhere, I would like to let the Arachneans know that
we have a couple of vacancies in each of two courses at the end of this year.
These full board, residential courses are held in a 3 star, Best Western
hotel in Dover (England).
The first is the weekend of 6th, 7th and
I think that Brenda has been talking about gathering round the corners all
along, not mitreing, as it's easier and quicker to do neatly.
Rochelle, if you think about it, the bit extra to make sure the lace will go
around the corners sitting flat. has to be enough so the lace goes past the
end
Sheila's post gave me the idea that perhaps sometime we coild have a lace-in
relay - perhaps on the UK National Lacemaking Day in September. With several
organisers around the world we could keep it going for the full 24 hours until
it comes back home.
Six people doing four hour stints, or
I have been amazed (and flattered) at the interest my idea has produced! I
spoke to the Lace Guild this morning about the convention and mentioned the
relay while I was on the phone.
If it looks as if the event is a possibility, and if it looks as if National
Lace Day is a potential date,
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This is really a great idea! I'd even host a special guild meeting at my
house to do this. Sounds wonderful!
Laura Sandison
Lace! in New Mexico, USA
I think this should have come to the list, but you all
I have had an SOS from one of my students who is making a garter for her
daughter's fast approaching marriage. She is using Madeira rayon 30, colour
number 2001. I didn't realise when she started that a) it wasn't a new reel
and b)
she has had it for ages!!
She has a long way to go as she
The power of Arachne strikes again.
Before you all rummage to the bottom of your thread stash, Jacqui Southworth
has contacted me to say she still has three reels in stock.
Jacquie
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A few days ago someone was asking about heirloom sewing and what we thought
might be meant by an insertion lace (at least, I think that's what was asked).
Looking for something else, I just came across this web site:
http://www.lydias.com/qheirbasics.html which may answer your question.
The most important line to correct is the footside (and maybe the catch pin
row); draw a straight line along and prick your hole next to the dots but on
the line. If you do the same to the head side curves, it might be all you need
to do.
As someone else said, the Bucks ground is supported by
I have got a boxed set of prickings and book entitled 33 Tonder Laces by
Meta Tonder, but with two copies of the book.
It was printed in 1954 and as with most books back then covers all the
basics, and the first patterns are Torchon. The Tonder patterns don't go to a
very
complicated level
As Sue hasn't answered yet, it's a bit like a detective story so here's my
guess at the solution.
When I read her post, after the initial Huh? I assumed that she meant that
she'd worked the *filling* Beds style rather than Russian. In other words
she'd used more than 2 pairs and done windmill
The outer threads need to be *much* wider apart than the finished width of
the leaf (or square tally for that matter) - about two or three inches at the
bobbin. The resulting angle from bobbin head to lace is what forces the
weaving
up into the leaf.
To be able to do this you need a space
I still have a Lacemakers do it on a Pillow sticker in the back window of
my 26 year old Mini Clubman Estate that I 'inherited' from Mum when she died 18
months ago. It's looking a little frayed at the corners (but then so's the
car, which I take to rallies in the summer!) so if anyone knows
The ones we are talking about aren't bumper stickers, they go inside a window
(which is why it has lasted about 20 years), so the sticky side is the right
side. The UK doesn't seem to do much in the way of bumper stickers. I could
do a photo of it for you so you have an idea of what it looks
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The same can be said of the hedgehog, the mascot of bobbin lacemakers.
There are BL people who have no interest in hedgehogs. There are no curators
who
pay attention to the BL mascot.
I didn't know that the hedgehog is meant to be the mascot for bobbin
lacemakers.
According to the International Lace Dictionary, aantal is number and speld is
pin. Obviously the ...en ending will alter the meaning somewhat.
As Sue says, the number given definitely equals the count of the footside
pinholes of one complete pattern repeat. What I'm trying to work out why
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This tasted
wonderful but the portions were huge and in the slowly coming darkness
you couldn't see clearly and at the end I had eaten too much.
That is absolutely the best excuse I have ever heard for
My letter from Quebec still hasn't arrived, my first email fell upon stony
ground, and the reply to yesterday's is still in cyber space so Malvary phoned
for me and I am in the Cluny de Brioude class.
A replacement pack is being sent to Malvary (and mine will now probably
arrive tomorrow)
Don't worry Jean, one of my students spotted that at the first showing and
wrote an indignant post, covering both the ivory/bone issue and this very false
idea that a profeesional lacemaker would have either the need or the time to
be looking at the spangles.
She got a slightly less
A couple of thoughts on this thread.
First, regarding removing pins, please may I buck the trend and make a plea
that when you are working Honiton, Milanese, Duchesse and other laces of this
type and scale, you don't take out alternate pins. My reasoning for this is as
it is quite possible
Among my collection of Singer sewing machine instruction books is one called
Singer Machine Embroidery. In the foreward is says It will be noted also
that in this treatise we are writing only of the ordinary Singer family sewing
machines, and do not deal with trade embroidery machines
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Buttonholes were made by hand too. - No Buttonhole attachments in them
thare days! :)) - and the hand made buttonholes are STILL better than
the machine made ones!!! :))
This one I would
Hurrah, at last I can make a definite diagnosis of an unusual 'thing' on
ebay.
It is a 'set-up' for a circular sock knitting machine.
When opened out wide it sits inside the cylinder and the bends at the ends of
each wire face inwards. The wool is threaded into the machine and a long end
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However the content may be of interest to those teaching lacemaking to young
people elsewhere.
And not only to young people. The pattern given is perfect for adults as
well, and has all sorts of different uses for the lace shown. Plus it makes an
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If you wind correctly by rolling the bobbin into the thread it
shouldn't make any difference whether it's a Z twist or an S twist
thread.
It's late at night and I am too tired to look up the link to Jean's
I have had a conversation with a (hopefully) future student who is shortly
off to Catalonia for three months. She will be about 45 minutes drive from
Gerona. Can any Arachnean suggest a lace contact for her.
She has made lace in the past but not for some little while. She is hoping
to brush
After all the chat about this subject I finally got up off my backside and
retrieved the one that I made. As I thought, I didn't knot the ends at all,
except where I joined the workers. As I picked up the threads I ran them along
behind the string for a very short distance (maybe two there
A short while ago someone, Jeri I think, posted a request that we add our
location to our posts. This will often make it easier to get a relevant answer
to a query.
This request from Lynn is an excellent example of why this is helpful.
What I would like to know is, are there any places on
Cut a longish piece of thread (12); white is best as it doesn't leave
coloured marks on the pin hole as you pull it out!
Tie the ends in an overhand knot.
Hang the pair(s) on at the pin hole as needed and pass the loop end of your
magic thread into the centre of the pair(s) and out under one
Malvary and I got ours from Roseground Lace Supplies, I think at the Bristol
Lace Guild AGM which is a couple of years ago. At that time she had maybe two
or three left, but I did tell some other members she had them so they may all
be gone. It would be worth a phone call or e-mail to find
Feeling that this seller may as well live to regret being so unpleasant to
Clay, I sent the following to her about the collar. I look forward to her
response
As a responsible e-bay seller, interested in accuracy, I'm sure you would
appreciate me telling you that while this vintage
And not even original as she sent exactly the same response to me.
My reply was on similar lines, but I was very hurt by her aggressive reply
as most sellers thank me for helping them target the right buyers. I also
asked what she meant by bblace as it was obviously a typo :-)
Don't know
Another way to do this, as taught by Pat Read and it certainly works well in
the UK centrally heated homes climate, is to make a layer as follows.
Cover cloth over the lace, followed by a face flannel wet and then rung out
as dry as you possibly can. A top layer of a towel.
This can be
I am currently reading a book set in the reign of King James (of England and
Scotland), and in one of the descriptive passages some hedgerow flowers are
described as 'gypsy lace'. I assume that this might be referring to cow
parsley, also known as Queen Anne's lace, but that is actually
In a private post from Malvary (my sister) she made the comment
Your question about Queen Ann Lace certainly generated a lot of messages
but didn't really answer your question
Yes, I noticed that! What I was more interested in is there any way to work
out when plant names first became lace
The observant among you may have wondered why the subject of jigsaws and
honey appeared. It was because I picked up the lace flowers element from a
three
part post from Malvary, but didn't change the subject line.
The jisaws bit was a comment about an on-line puzzle site and the honey bit
I don't understand what the problem is, Surely 'Chat' looks the same to
everyone that has it as a digest, as I do.
Pardon me Jean for choosing one of your posts to demonstrate, but this is the
format I see at the top of each entry:
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 08:27:33 +0100
From: Jean Nathan [EMAIL
So the reference to using Queen Anne's lace for cow parsley (in a book set in
the UK) in the 1500s was, as I suspected, incorrect. My instinct that is was
incorrect was because lace hadn't been around long enough, and called 'lace'
as a generic term, for the word and concept of it to have
Like Carol, I respangle mine using old beads but to my preferred spangle
size. When someone looked at me in horror for doing this I pointed out that it
is
highly unlikely that most of these bobbins have their original-from-new
spangle anyway.
Probably most of my modern bobbins have been
Does anyone know if there is a way to search for a book worldwide using just
its ISBN number?
The reason why I'm asking is that I have just borrowed a book from the Lace
Guild library which I would very much like a copy of, BUT it is a Russian one,
in Russian. I have previously tried to do an
In the 1980s one or more of the UK lace suppliers sold a blue sticker to fit
inside a car window, with the words Lacemakers do it on a pillow and a lacey
design behind the words. It was about 12 x 2 inches.
Mum had one on the back window of her 1980 Mini Clubman Estate, which I
inherited
Many thanks for all the suggestions - Shere'e's link to campusi found one of
them for me at $66, but that's in the States so I've got probably another $10
shipping on top. Thinking about that one.
The other book wasn't found and as soon as I go to the rare books search it
asks for the title
Don't forget you can always check back to the archive for anything you have
deleted. And the URL for that is...
http://www.mail-archive.com/lace%40arachne.com/
Add that one to your saved searches and you won't need to worry again.
Jacquie in Lincolnshire
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As a matter of interest, is there any way to tell at a glance which sort of
enlargement any particular photocopier does?
Am I reading your post right to think that if I enlarge directly through the
photocopy facility of my scanner it will be linear, but if I scan it first
then use
I wrote to the seller explaining why this couldn't be a tatting shuttle and
expressing interest in the URL for his research which led him to believe it
was.
In return he sent me another e-bay link for a sale which ended on 23rd May,
where someone paid $20 for an identical item. No wonder he
So the safest thing to do is to measure after the enlargement and see if
you've got what you were expecting, rather than believing that just because you
asked for 200%, that's what you've got.
Jacquie
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Many thanks, Tiziana. I don't know if I was doing something wrong but when I
went to look at items (it's the Milanese lace I was especially interested
in), the description of the
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