[Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-01-30 Thread Bee Jay
Hi all, Now, let's talk about the content and its structure. From the first email, I have shared some references, maybe we could go from there. Some things need to be considered are: - what contents we're gonna provide to the visitors? - which contents need to be displayed on the main page? -

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-01-31 Thread Aleksa Todorovic
Several things which should be easily visible/accessible to anyone who comes for the first time, or wants to get started with Lazarus: "What is it?" - explaining in short what is Lazarus, LCL, FPC, Lazarus-CCR "How does it look like?" - screenshots of Lazarus on different platforms, different Laza

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-01-31 Thread theo
@Aleksa I almost completely agree. There should probably be a section with these information on the first page. The first page should primarily be for those who come for the first time - to attract them, and show them what Lazarus really is. Exactly. This is important and could be done in rea

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-01-31 Thread Aleksa Todorovic
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 18:20, theo wrote: > > Only thing I do not agree: I think we should not compare Lazarus with Delphi > and other tools. It's a little cheap / bad taste. > > Theo I think it's important to have some as-objective-as-possible comparison for people who used and liked Delphi (li

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-01-31 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Aleksa Todorovic schrieb: Only thing I do not agree: I think we should not compare Lazarus with Delphi and other tools. It's a little cheap / bad taste. Theo I think it's important to have some as-objective-as-possible comparison for people who used and liked Delphi (like most of us are, I be

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-01 Thread Mike Parr
look at online help. Also, I think that win7/vista users need a Microsoft download to run the chm version. best wishes Mike > Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:49:56 +0100 > From: Aleksa Todorovic > Subject: Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content > To: Lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-01 Thread Bee Jay
It does not need to be part of a CMS - can just be static pages, linking to documentation, wiki. Yes, that's what I'm gonna do first. Just a good appearance with a collection of bunches of links and some appropriate semi-marketting words campaign. Once it's settled, the CMS could utilize th

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-01 Thread Marc Weustink
theo wrote: @Aleksa I almost completely agree. There should probably be a section with these information on the first page. The first page should primarily be for those who come for the first time - to attract them, and show them what Lazarus really is. Exactly. This is important and could b

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-01 Thread Paulo Costa
Bee Jay wrote: It does not need to be part of a CMS - can just be static pages, linking to documentation, wiki. Yes, that's what I'm gonna do first. Just a good appearance with a collection of bunches of links and some appropriate semi-marketting words campaign. Once it's settled, the CMS cou

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-01 Thread Bee Jay
I've made a very basic design, just to show off my page layout and content structure proposal. It's not yet about the true design (color, theme, etc) and the accessories (images, icons, etc). Take a look at http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5716/lazwebnew020210.png On this design, at the topp

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Paul Ishenin
02.02.2010 14:49, Bee Jay wrote: Take a look at http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5716/lazwebnew020210.png Still I think that we must use blue colors. IDE uses blue logo, blue icons. Everywhere the blue color dominates. Web site can't be brown but everything else blue. And I think that we are

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi, Just thought I would mention that static pages is probably easier than any CMS. Applying relatively simple CSS can make it look beautiful without the need for fancy HTML. To help with maintaining the website, we have done the following in the tiOPF project. The HTML content is actually in the

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
Take a look at http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5716/lazwebnew020210.png Still I think that we must use blue colors. IDE uses blue logo, blue icons. Everywhere the blue color dominates. Web site can't be brown but everything else blue. And I think that we are not able to change logo and al

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Bee Jay wrote: Take a look at http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5716/lazwebnew020210.png Still I think that we must use blue colors. IDE uses blue logo, blue icons. Everywhere the blue color dominates. Web site can't be brown but everything else blue. And I think that we

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
Something like this could easily apply to Lazarus too, and it is relatively little effort to setup. Also designing the website so that in doesn't use serverside includes etc makes it easier for users to checkout the website from the repository and simply use a web browser to view the content

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 14:49 +0700, Bee Jay wrote: > I've made a very basic design, just to show off my page layout and > content structure proposal. It's not yet about the true design (color, > theme, etc) and the accessories (images, icons, etc). > > Take a look at http://img85.imageshack.us/

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Aleksa Todorovic
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 09:26, Bee Jay wrote: >>> Take a look at http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5716/lazwebnew020210.png >> >> Still I think that we must use blue colors. IDE uses blue logo, blue >> icons. Everywhere the blue color dominates. Web site can't be brown but >> everything else blue. A

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
Looks good. Maybe we can add a tagline to the brownish header. 'Code once, compile everywhere' could be it maybe. It has to tell what Lazarus/fpc is as less as words possible. Yes, as I asked previously, I need help about the wording. Somebody who has a bit knowledge about marketting may propo

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
Personally, I like the other color scheme more than this one. But, I would rather go with color scheme which is more in spirit of whole project. (btw, how about having blue behind Lazarus less "intense" - maybe more like those at the top and bottom?) BTW, my post is about the content structure a

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Bee Jay wrote: > > Here's the blue one: > http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/3214/lazwebnew020210blue.png Looks good, but isn't there a spelling mistake in the title on content. It seem so many people make this mistake. The correct spelling is "Free Pascal" and *not* "FreePascal". See website

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Bee Jay wrote: > > Here's the blue one: > http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/3214/lazwebnew020210blue.png Another spelling mistake in the bottom of the page. The spelling is "IDE" and not "I.D.E". :-) Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal h

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 15:35 +0700, Bee Jay wrote: > > Looks good. Maybe we can add a tagline to the brownish header. 'Code > > once, compile everywhere' could be it maybe. It has to tell what > > Lazarus/fpc is as less as words possible. > > Yes, as I asked previously, I need help about the wordin

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Bee Jay wrote: > > Is there anything still missing from there? No the content is MUCH better than the current website. I like the "summary information" and the roadmap (links) at the bottom. On page for the user and they can easily branch off from there no more specific information. Easy to spot!

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Paul Ishenin
02.02.2010 15:44, Joost van der Sluis wrote: Brown. But that's personal, offcourse. No matter what we like. I believe it is possible to draw it perfect using blue colors. Again IDE icons and logos can't be in another color sheme as a web-site. Best regards, Paul Ishenin. -- __

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Mike Parr
Hi Bee Jay I really like the page design! I have a suggestion for the wording at the top of the page - see it below. You will see it is a bit more explanatory, perhaps more suitable for students. It also omits 'native', and I suggest this can be picked up in your 'cross-platform' stuff below. (

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 15:40 +0700, Bee Jay wrote: > > Personally, I like the other color scheme more than this one. But, I > > would rather go with color scheme which is more in spirit of whole > > project. (btw, how about having blue behind Lazarus less "intense" - > > maybe more like those at the

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Bee Jay wrote: > > BTW, which one do you like? the brown one or the blue one? :) Yes, the 'Code once, Compile everywhere' slogan is important. Just like the similar slogan used in Java. As for color, I think the blue theme should be used. After all, FPC, Lazarus, Wiki and Mantis websites alread

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Paul Ishenin wrote: 02.02.2010 15:44, Joost van der Sluis wrote: Brown. But that's personal, offcourse. No matter what we like. I believe it is possible to draw it perfect using blue colors. Again IDE icons and logos can't be in another color sheme as a web-site. I a

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Aleksa Todorovic
2010/2/2 Mike Parr : > It also omits 'native', and I suggest this can be picked up in > your 'cross-platform' stuff below. For any advanced user "native" is as important as "cross-platform". This tells one that FPC is not interpreter or VM based, but real native compiler. -- _

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
For example, when you click on 'support(s)' what kind of page do you see? Of is if a menu which shows when you hover your mouse above it, so that 'Mailing lists','online forum', 'IRC' etc appears? My approach is to be less JS as possible, more static HTML/CSS. It'll be easier to maintain. S

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Torsten Bonde Christiansen
Bee Jay wrote: Personally, I like the other color scheme more than this one. But, I would rather go with color scheme which is more in spirit of whole project. (btw, how about having blue behind Lazarus less "intense" - maybe more like those at the top and bottom?) BTW, my post is about the con

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Torsten Bonde Christiansen wrote: > Perhaps i'm the only one missing a link to the Wiki pages? It is there, at the bottom of the page under "Public Contributions", then the first link "Public wiki". Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
Perhaps i'm the only one missing a link to the Wiki pages? It's available on the footer section. It's my understanding that most of the current content for developers is placed on the wiki. So perhaps such a link should be placed in the top bar along with the downloads and support. The to

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Marc Weustink
Bee Jay wrote: Take a look at http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5716/lazwebnew020210.png Still I think that we must use blue colors. IDE uses blue logo, blue icons. Everywhere the blue color dominates. Web site can't be brown but everything else blue. And I think that we are not able to change l

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
I really like the page design! Thanks. I have a suggestion for the wording at the top of the page - see it below. You will see it is a bit more explanatory, perhaps more suitable for students. It also omits 'native', and I suggest this can be picked up in your 'cross-platform' stuff belo

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Paul Ishenin
02.02.2010 16:27, Bee Jay wrote: - native (more to Lazarus) - cross platform (more to FPC) I would say vice-versa. Best regards, Paul Ishenin. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mail

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
A design like this can even be served using current smf/tp site (till our own pascalbased is ready) Well, actually I'm thinking about Wordpress. I'm trying to collaborate both ideas, using available mostly php-based CMS or build custom CMS based on fpWeb. Also the contents can be obtained f

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
The big header section isn't static. It will be slide-like presentation that will highlight key features of both FPC and Lazarus. One more thing. The header section is available on the front page only. It wouldn't be available on the other deeper pages. The top link section and footer sitem

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Marc Weustink
Bee Jay wrote: A design like this can even be served using current smf/tp site (till our own pascalbased is ready) Well, actually I'm thinking about Wordpress. I'm trying to collaborate both ideas, using available mostly php-based CMS or build custom CMS based on fpWeb. Also the contents can be

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 16:35 +0700, Bee Jay wrote: > > The big header section isn't static. It will be slide-like > > presentation that will highlight key features of both FPC and Lazarus. > > One more thing. The header section is available on the front page > only. It wouldn't be available on

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 16:35 +0700, Bee Jay wrote: > > The big header section isn't static. It will be slide-like > > presentation that will highlight key features of both FPC and Lazarus. > > One more thing. The header section is available on the front page > only. It wouldn't be available on

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 10:49:07AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > Bee Jay wrote: > > > > Is there anything still missing from there? > > No the content is MUCH better than the current website. I like the "summary > information" and the roadmap (links) at the bottom. On page for the user > and

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 10:45:12AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > Bee Jay wrote: > > > > Here's the blue one: > > http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/3214/lazwebnew020210blue.png > > Another spelling mistake in the bottom of the page. The spelling is "IDE" > and not "I.D.E". :-) I would not

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Marco van de Voort wrote: On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 10:45:12AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Bee Jay wrote: Here's the blue one: http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/3214/lazwebnew020210blue.png Another spelling mistake in the bottom of the page. The spelling is "IDE" a

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Juha Manninen
> I place the wiki link on Contribution section, not on Docs section, > because I want to emphasize the "contribution" rather than the > "document". ;) It means lots of contents must be moved from wiki to the new static pages, right? Regards, Juha Manninen -- ___

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Paul Ishenin
02.02.2010 17:16, Juha Manninen wrote: I place the wiki link on Contribution section, not on Docs section, because I want to emphasize the "contribution" rather than the "document". ;) It means lots of contents must be moved from wiki to the new static pages, right? Not exatly. Maybe the main

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 11:05:05AM +0100, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > >> Another spelling mistake in the bottom of the page. The spelling is "IDE" > >> and not "I.D.E". :-) > > > > I would not use the term IDE, but RAD, and reserve IDE for the textmode IDE. > > No, since lazarus is not a RAD. It

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Martin
On 02/02/2010 07:49, Bee Jay wrote: I've made a very basic design, just to show off my page layout and content structure proposal. It's not yet about the true design (color, theme, etc) and the accessories (images, icons, etc). Take a look at http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5716/lazwebnew0202

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
Ok, and how a user can 'see' where he is? And what we are looking at now is the first level navigation. What about the second and third? Good question. I haven't finish the deeper pages layout proposal. The content pages, will have a navigation bar below the shrinked header. The shrinked h

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
Instead or in addition to the "text feature highlights" some icons or screenshots? So users can visually recognize the most important features? Yes, that's the plan. My designer needs some time to design the required images and icons. Once it's done, I will post it on the appearance thre

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Juha Manninen
Hi, > Take a look at http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5716/lazwebnew020210.png > Below it, it's an animated large header which will show some highlight > features of FPC/Lazarus in rotation. Please don't make the animations very heavy for CPU. There are many pages with animated ads that hog 70

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Juha Manninen wrote: > > Please don't make the animations very heavy for CPU. Yes, please don't. And please don't use cheesy animations like the running cheetah either - that is so 80's style! Very cheesy!! > There are many pages with animated ads that hog 70% of my CPU and I don't > want > t

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
On Feb 2, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Juha Manninen wrote: Please don't make the animations very heavy for CPU. There are many pages with animated ads that hog 70% of my CPU and I don't want to keep them open for long. It'd be a simple JS animation, not flash and nothing fancy. Another wish: I stil

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Marco van de Voort schrieb: I would not use the term IDE, but RAD, and reserve IDE for the textmode IDE. IMO RAD is a development model or qualifier ("RAD Studio"), while IDE is a concrete implementation (FP IDE, Lazarus IDE, Delphi IDE). In the given context it should be clear that the "Laz

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: > Marco van de Voort schrieb: > >> I would not use the term IDE, but RAD, and reserve IDE for the textmode IDE. > > IMO RAD is a development model or qualifier ("RAD Studio"), while IDE is > a concrete implementation (FP IDE, Lazarus IDE, Delphi IDE). In the > given

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Juha Manninen schrieb: Take a look at http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5716/lazwebnew020210.png Below it, it's an animated large header which will show some highlight features of FPC/Lazarus in rotation. Please don't make the animations very heavy for CPU. I have a mental problem with an

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Martin
On 02/02/2010 14:08, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Juha Manninen schrieb: Take a look at http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5716/lazwebnew020210.png Below it, it's an animated large header which will show some highlight features of FPC/Lazarus in rotation. Please don't make the animations ver

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Juha Manninen schrieb: Take a look at http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5716/lazwebnew020210.png Below it, it's an animated large header which will show some highlight features of FPC/Lazarus in rotation. Please don't make the animations ve

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Doug Chamberlin
On 2/2/2010 2:49 AM, Bee Jay wrote: I've made a very basic design, just to show off my page layout and content structure proposal. It's not yet about the true design (color, theme, etc) and the accessories (images, icons, etc). Take a look at http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5716/lazwebnew0202

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2 February 2010 16:08, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: > > If somebody knows how to deactivate animations in Firefox, any hints are > very welcome! Very easy. In address URL type: about:config Accept the "I'll be careful" message. Search for "image.animation_mode" The default value is "normal"

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2 February 2010 18:01, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > > And that should be it. Ah you beat me to it, I should have read all message before I replied. Sorry for the duplicate -- Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI too

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread waldo kitty
On 2/2/2010 04:59, Marco van de Voort wrote: On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 10:45:12AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Bee Jay wrote: Here's the blue one: http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/3214/lazwebnew020210blue.png Another spelling mistake in the bottom of the page. The spelling is "IDE" and n

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread waldo kitty
On 2/2/2010 06:13, Juha Manninen wrote: Hi, Take a look at http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5716/lazwebnew020210.png Below it, it's an animated large header which will show some highlight features of FPC/Lazarus in rotation. Please don't make the animations very heavy for CPU. There are ma

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread waldo kitty
On 2/2/2010 09:08, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Juha Manninen schrieb: Take a look at http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5716/lazwebnew020210.png Below it, it's an animated large header which will show some highlight features of FPC/Lazarus in rotation. Please don't make the animations very h

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
The content pages, will have a navigation bar below the shrinked header. The shrinked header will be static which will show the appropriate slide in regard with the content being displayed. Here's my proposal for content page layout: http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/676/lazwebnewsubpage03021

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Chris Kirkpatrick
Paul Ishenin wrote: Still I think that we must use blue colors. IDE uses blue logo, blue icons. Everywhere the blue color dominates. Web site can't be brown but everything else blue. And I think that we are not able to change logo and all icons to brown in a reasonable time. Blue is only

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Michael Van Canneyt schrieb: If somebody knows how to deactivate animations in Firefox, any hints are very welcome! Use the about:config url. filter on image.animation_mode Set value to 'none' (no quotes) And that should be it. Bingo! :-) DoDi -- __

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 14:58 +0700, Bee Jay wrote: > > The content pages, will have a navigation bar below the shrinked > > header. The shrinked header will be static which will show the > > appropriate slide in regard with the content being displayed. > > Here's my proposal for content page la

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Howard Page-Clark
On 03/2/10 7:58, Bee Jay wrote: Here's my proposal for content page layout: http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/676/lazwebnewsubpage030210.png Please share your idea and opinions. Your work, even in drafts is good, and bodes well for a revamped web presence that has flair and simplicity as well

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Bee Jay
On Feb 3, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Joost van der Sluis wrote: Nice. Thanks. I think that this part should be the same throughout the whole site. No, the header will be changed according to what content being displayed on the page. If it's FPC specific, then the header will show FPC banner. If

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Bee Jay
However, if we are making a concerted effort to present a more 'professional' web image, perhaps it is time to impose a more consistent style on the more public and static pages, and agree on a few rules of style and spelling (British or American English? IDE or I.D.E.? and suchlike). What

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Klenongan
And here's mine, with more 'elegant' touch to it. I use large fonts and white overall to make a neutral appearance --as I don't know Lazarus' "color"--. The page uses less text as possible on the front page, inspired by Mercurial, VLC, Wordpress website so that new visitors wont be overwhelmed by i

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Juha Manninen
Hi. > And here's mine, with more 'elegant' touch to it. I use large fonts > and white overall to make a neutral appearance --as I don't know > Lazarus' "color"--. The page uses less text as possible on the front > page, inspired by Mercurial, VLC, Wordpress website so that new > visitors wont be o

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Bee Jay
On Feb 3, 2010, at 8:16 PM, Klenongan wrote: And here's mine, with more 'elegant' touch to it. I use large fonts and white overall to make a neutral appearance --as I don't know Lazarus' "color"--. Yes, it look more elegant. It's a nice design, I must say. The page uses less text as possible

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Klenongan
I took minimalist approach because most new visitors will be overwhelmed by things they have to read just to download the damned thing. There are many reason why open source projects nowadays put a big button on their front page just so anyone who visit the page for the first time (either by word o

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Michael Schneider
> > I suggest we use our own images. I already asked help from someone on the > > other thread to help us on this. I think these pictures are under CreativCommons http://animalphotos.info/a/topics/animals/mammals/cheetahs/ http://www.piqs.de/schnelluebersicht/search/gepard/ -- ___

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Zaher Dirkey
Choose the picture you like it and trace it with Inkscape or corel draw then start to clean it up. On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Michael Schneider wrote: > > > > I suggest we use our own images. I already asked help from someone on > the > > > other thread to help us on this. > I think these p

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread waldo kitty
On 2/3/2010 08:16, Klenongan wrote: And here's mine, with more 'elegant' touch to it. I use large fonts and white overall to make a neutral appearance --as I don't know Lazarus' "color"--. The page uses less text as possible on the front page, inspired by Mercurial, VLC, Wordpress website so that

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Klenongan schrieb: And here's mine, with more 'elegant' touch to it. I use large fonts and white overall to make a neutral appearance --as I don't know Lazarus' "color"--. The page uses less text as possible on the front page, inspired by Mercurial, VLC, Wordpress website so that new visitors wo

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Michael Schneider schrieb: I suggest we use our own images. I already asked help from someone on the other thread to help us on this. I think these pictures are under CreativCommons http://animalphotos.info/a/topics/animals/mammals/cheetahs/ The "Three Cheetahs" image could reflect the multi-p

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread waldo kitty
On 2/3/2010 18:37, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Michael Schneider schrieb: I suggest we use our own images. I already asked help from someone on the other thread to help us on this. I think these pictures are under CreativCommons http://animalphotos.info/a/topics/animals/mammals/cheetahs/ The

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Paul van Helden
I think these pictures are under CreativCommons http://animalphotos.info/a/topics/animals/mammals/cheetahs/ http://www.piqs.de/schnelluebersicht/search/gepard/ Is it just me or are there others that would agree that using real life animal pictures are just plain cheezy? (Well, the current L

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Martin
On 04/02/2010 05:24, Paul van Helden wrote: It seems a significant portion of open source projects pick some animal, almost as some type of "mascot", and that is cool. There isn't one example, however, that I can think of where such website looks like some page on National Geographic. From pe

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Lance Collins
Paul wrote A related topic that's been bothering me: can we please discuss a name change for Lazarus as well? It's not like a name change will hurt the project at this stage, methinks... Have you noticed that Firefox now has an add-on called Lazarus? Isn't that irritating? Cheers Lance

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Paul Ishenin
04.02.2010 13:27, Lance Collins wrote: Have you noticed that Firefox now has an add-on called Lazarus? Isn't that irritating? If you goodle for Delphi you find more things than Delphi from Embarcadero. Best regards, Paul Ishenin. -- ___ Lazarus m

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Klenongan wrote: > > Preview: > http://xs.to/image-FAED_4B6973FF.jpg The big cheetah image makes me feel like I'm on a wildlife website and not a software tools website. PS: I had a good laugh at the year range in the copyright notice. Very optimistic that Lazarus will still be around. If it is

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Paul van Helden
On 2010/02/04 07:56 AM, Martin wrote: I had the "National Geographic" impression too... I did like the proposal from Bee Jay ( http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/676/lazwebnewsubpage030210.png ) I don't like the gradient fill blue (old fashioned) and even less the idea of rotating banners in

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-04 Thread Bee Jay
I took minimalist approach because most new visitors will be overwhelmed by things they have to read just to download the damned thing. There are many reason why open source projects nowadays put a big button on their front page just so anyone who visit the page for the first time (either by word

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-04 Thread Bee Jay
I don't like the gradient fill blue (old fashioned) and even less the idea of rotating banners in that position (annoying) Please note that it's a work in progress, nothing is final. Please read my other emails regarding this. -- -Bee- ...making buzzes at http://twitter.com/beezing ...wri

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-04 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 20:16 +0700, Klenongan wrote: > And here's mine, with more 'elegant' touch to it. I use large fonts > and white overall to make a neutral appearance --as I don't know > Lazarus' "color"--. The page uses less text as possible on the front > page, inspired by Mercurial, VLC, Wor

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-04 Thread Martin
On 04/02/2010 07:29, Paul van Helden wrote: On 2010/02/04 07:56 AM, Martin wrote: A related topic that's been bothering me: can we please discuss a name change for Lazarus as well? It's not like a name change will hurt the project at this stage, methinks... -1 I don't see why changing the

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-04 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Paul van Helden schrieb: Is it just me or are there others that would agree that using real life animal pictures are just plain cheezy? +1 I vote for simply using the "paw" (/images/splash_source/paw.png). It is a beautiful piece of artwork. This image may conflict with Jack Wolfskin, who

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-04 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Martin schrieb: I had the "National Geographic" impression too... I did like the proposal from Bee Jay ( http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/676/lazwebnewsubpage030210.png ) Just another thing: I'd prefer the term "multi-platform", in favor of "cross-platform", which latter is frequently used

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-04 Thread Klenongan
> I don't like this design at all. Bee's design is much better. > ... > > What you expect on a home-page is links, links, links and a few lines > explaining things. Because every new-comer has a different reason to > come to that page. Some like screenshots, and decide what this product > is on tho

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-04 Thread JoshyFun
Hello Lazarus-List, Thursday, February 4, 2010, 5:15:25 PM, you wrote: K> Strange, I can see the images just fine. Maybe something wrong with K> your proxy, or network settings? The xs.to is one of my bookmarked K> image host, I choose it because i can call it out of my head, being K> just 'xs.to

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-04 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 23:15 +0700, Klenongan wrote: > > I don't like this design at all. Bee's design is much better. > > > ... > > > > What you expect on a home-page is links, links, links and a few lines > > explaining things. Because every new-comer has a different reason to > > come to that pag

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-04 Thread Bee Jay
On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:15 PM, Klenongan wrote: Well that's interesting, you don't know what Lazarus because you do not want to read the text, which right next to a big picture. A text below the name 'Lazarus' made bigger than the rest of the page, well placed to be seen first, not only that I took

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-05 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 07:24:25AM +0200, Paul van Helden wrote: > > http://www.piqs.de/schnelluebersicht/search/gepard/ > > > > > Is it just me or are there others that would agree that using real life > animal pictures are just plain cheezy? (Well, the current Lazarus logos > with cheetahs

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-05 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 09:29:55AM +0200, Paul van Helden wrote: > > I don't see why changing the name. Any Name except for "Pascal > > RAD-IDE" needs branding => users have to learn to associate it with a > > pascal RAD-IDE. > Well, perhaps there are other people that are having the same experie

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-05 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 09:14:51AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > Klenongan wrote: > > > > Preview: > > http://xs.to/image-FAED_4B6973FF.jpg > > The big cheetah image makes me feel like I'm on a wildlife website and not > a software tools website. Keep in mind that for Africans this is all mo

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