On Sun, 2004-03-28 at 22:53, Mike Noyes wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-03-28 at 20:43, Jack Coates wrote:
> > My mirror script has been broken for a couple of weeks at least and it's
> > been a long while since I've been using a LEAF distro at all or reading
> > the mail on t
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> going through Tux and the word LEAF.
>
This might be a browser issue; the current site does this too in Galeon
and Mozilla.
And it looks REALLY wierd in Dillo.
Looks fine in Konqueror.
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e in cvs ASAP. Thanks.
> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/leaf/devel/
>
> If you have questions about cvs usage/setup, please post them to the list.
> I'm sure the answers will help many of us.
>
> Suggestions and comments on the proposed change are welcome.
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On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Matt Schalit wrote:
> Jack Coates wrote:
> >
>
> > Hm, so the backup process checks the list files of all other .lrps?
>
> Yup. That's how it works. Include everything listed in the .list
> while excluding everything listed in every other .li
processes. Obviously dhcpcd and pppoe users
need not apply.
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u want to do the final
package, you can still probably get away with something like ls
/usr/local/foobar > package.list
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On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Matt Schalit wrote:
> Jack Coates wrote:
>
>
> > A factor here is that most distributions will backup anything there into
> > local.lrp, which doubles up your space usage.
>
> As far as I've seen, a properly coded .list file ensures
> th
e an issue with package
developers making everything they do act like it's part of the
distribution (or making everything live in one dir, for that matter).
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ein-builder CD... User Mode Linux would
be a great thing here for those who don't have VMWare.
Theoretically a ports system would be accessible from any system,
regardless of type and without UML or VMW. This would let the developers
set cross-compile architecture options ahead of time, but it doe
I'm
really starting to lean away from the idea of using LEAF in its current
form as an appliance. Doing so makes sense with special-purpose hardware
designed not to have a hard disk, and LEAF compares nicely with Midori
for this purpose. But on a PC or server, running an application
p.
Runs from RAM disk.
Loads and backs up .lrp files.
Provides ash, busybox, and a default system editor.
Provides a text-menu interface.
Menu supports configuration of system and packages.
Seems to me anything else is an option :-)
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This is 18 Ethernet ports, but once you get past the backplane blocking
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got to playing around and I have made a postfix v1.1.0p2 package.
It's compiled for 586 and the .lrp weighs in at 3.2 Mb, so doorstop
computers need not apply. Still untested, but mail me if you want to
play with it before I finish building out a complete system to run it
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On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Jacques Nilo wrote:
> Hi Eric !
> It's time for us to get a name for the LEAF 2.4.16 distro. Mike wants
> one :-)
>
> I have finally opted (suggestion from Jack Coates, thank Jacks) for the
> "Strait" concept.
I thought I had mentioned gods
> sleep 1
> echo -e -n "\b|"
> sleep 1
> echo -e -n "\b/"
> sleep 1
> echo -e -n "\b-"
> sleep 1
> done
>
>
weighs in at 172 bytes on my system... :-)
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sthru and one-notch up they do VPN endpoint, without the licensing
> that (say) Cisco or Watchguard would charge.
>
these days, the opportunity cost of building a LEAF system instead of
buying an OTS unit for <$100 is getting to be arguable... I'd focus on
flexibility rath
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, David Douthitt wrote:
> On 12/6/01 at 7:48 PM, Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Great end result, but how scalable is it? Did you write
> > the HTML by hand?
>
> No. Both the index and the individual pages are computer generated.
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.lrp
>
> ...and so forth...
>
Great end result, but how scalable is it? Did you write the HTML by
hand?
I'm thinking this sort of data in a text .desc file in the package, then
a web app that grabs the .desc when you upload the package and generates
this sort of pa
t 611132 May 30 2001 /usr/bin/gpg*
[jack@felix jack]$ ll /usr/bin/gpgv
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root 283932 May 30 2001 /usr/bin/gpgv*
pretty hefty for a floppy, but not bad for CD.
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> On 12/2/01 at 9:59 PM, Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > there are two problems with this scenario:
> > 1) It's a PITA to look all over the place for packages.
> > The leaf.sf.net site is not exactly good g
er package as well. The
problem is that the attributes must be entered manually in Zope, though
I might be able to figure out another angle.
But first, is it an interesting angle of pursuit? My assumption is that
sourceforge.net would be the ultimate host of whatever got done.
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an old dot matrix printer with a Costco-sized case of paper, and you've
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syslog-ng is supposed to fix a lot of these problems, but I've never
gotten around to taking a look at it.
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could increase performance by using it on the RAM disk.
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ault via 5.6.7.8 dev ppp0 table isp-b
Now, I'm currently thinking that the output chain must be the wrong
place to put things, because the weblet status page has an area named
fwmark, which remains empty. I'm thinking such a thing exists because
someone more knowledgeable thought it oughta
;s a "quick-fix" or not...
>
> Charles Steinkuehler
> http://lrp.steinkuehler.net
> http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror)
>
>
mkbootdisk on my Mandrake system :-) I'll put a disk image up tonight.
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>
Will do tonight under separate cover when I've more time; thanks,
> Charles Steinkuehler
> http://lrp.steinkuehler.net
> http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror)
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Jack Coates wrote:
>
> After those two steps, I did a date -s command to set the date properly,
> then hwclock --systohc to push the PST time into the hardware clock,
> then I set up xntpd to keep it in sync. It's worked ever since, on two
> ES2B boxes.
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ov 13 19:09:48 ??? 2001
> # date +%Z
> ???
> # echo $TZ
> PST8PDT
>
After those two steps, I did a date -s command to set the date properly,
then hwclock --systohc to push the PST time into the hardware clock,
then I set up xntpd to keep it in sync. It's worked ever since, on two
t an email, and got nothing. Didn't want to bother him too much...
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There was an interview request with him on Slash
; could classify a nmap probe as hostile behavior (and perhaps illegal
> behavior). The nmap line is commented out.
>
> The package is at
> http://leaf.sourceforge.net/pub/oxygen/packages/alert.lrp
>
> Enjoy!
>
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the SSH1 holes are
pretty academic compared to buffer overflows, but sshmitm makes them
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ort for stuff like.. a Flash ROM-based filesystem, a
> >> RAM-based filesystem and a boot/runtime system that can run from
> >> Flash ROM. I haven't read the whole doc on it yet.. but maybe some
> >> other people would like to take a look??
> >>
> >> h
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, David Douthitt wrote:
> Jack Coates wrote:
>
> > Now that would rock :-) especially if one could simply snarf/apkg the
> > packages into place from sourceforge.net. Major potential for security
> > risk, but there are ways to work it out.
>
>
kage information files could contain this (author, version) etc...
> and it would eb automated. Or is this one step away from RPM and DEB? :-)
>
> Dale.
>
Now that would rock :-) especially if one could simply snarf/apkg the
packages into place from sourceforge.net. Major potential for secur
> these tools are contained in Debian either, what I consider to be the
> purest of "OpenSource" Linux distributions on the planet.
>
> Thoughts from you all? Jacques? Andrew?
>
I don't use djb products on any platforms for this reason.
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color depth, X can run well in regular Ethernet. It's slow
on ISDN and unusable on modem (well, maybe in 8bpp).
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On 29 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 28 June 2001, Jack Coates wrote:
>
> >
> > On 28 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I used to go around this by remoting into my Windows box and browsing from
>there. I'm rapidly trying to figure out
've started X from
Cygwin once or twice to make sure it worked, but realize you're working
with twm until you can compile something else (easier said than done wih
Cygwin). You used to be able to get a free server from Metro, MI/X or
some such,
in the SF bay area),
Windows Clustering Service, and SQL 2000 (poor performance, bungled
failovers, and data corruption on a 35 GB database? Simply send us a
copy and we'll recreate in our labs...).
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you're on Exchange 5.5 too. I did some quick searching but couldn't find
any good reason for the problem. Will keep looking.
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Luis.F.Correia wrote:
> Yeah!
>
> I got this:
>
>
> Thi
For any one else reaching for the nearest high-speed networking
textbook, that's equivalent to OC-12. 622 Mbps ATM, or 483 Mbps pure
throughput after overhead (20% ATM, 3% IP).
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Pim van Riezen wrote:
&
better
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Mike Noyes wrote:
> Everyone,
> Are our home page and releases page easier to navigate now?
>
> Note: I still need to work on our releases page, but I think our
rtage
> might be useful as a big chunk of the compile environment, if it's flexible
> enough (likely) and easy enough to setup/install.
>
That would rock, speaking as one who's been bitten by many an
rpm-related problem... Does picoBSD have anything like t
as good a division as any, but I think I'd add a distinction:
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, David Douthitt wrote:
> This is where I see the two LRP derivatives heading, based on the
> mails from developers, and in other cases, my
seful for
testing something like that. Unfortunately I don't have a lot of time,
and the shipping cost on an old 486 or Sparc 2 is worth far more than
the machine.
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agreed. what's required here? Mike, give me a few pointers and I'll take
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Scott C. Best wrote:
>
> Heyaz. So, I went to the LEAF site today trying to
> imagine myself as a n
did anyone else have trouble with my message? I'm using Pine 4.3 with
US-ASCII as the character set.
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Steven Peck wrote:
> Jack. tch tch tch :)
>
> In any case, the draft looks pretty good
too many layers of
wrong-doing here for simple judgements.
I may not contribute a lot, but I don't want my contributions tied to
this sort of stupidity.
I will consider signing Morgan's letter and I am definitely signing off
the linux-router list.
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Look at Rainfinity, Resonate, Stonebeat, VRRP, HSRP.
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Kenneth Hadley wrote:
> Off Topic folks so bear with me ;-)
>
> Is there a program that alows floating default gateways for NIC's under
I've used HardHat in lab systems (Ziatech Ketris, sweet boxes) when I
was at Rainfinity. From an admin/hack perspective, it feels like RedHat
with some kernel patches. It was a pleasure to work with compared to a
regular embedded system, but I doubt it would run nicely on a 486/33.
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On Fri, 4 May 2001, Dale Long wrote:
> I will be starting a Task In Security
nting
seemed a little thin on info w/r/t cramfs and ramfs, but they had lots
of interesting stuff about Crusoe processors. They also say that a base
build of Midori compiles to about 6 MB without Netscape, which ain't
half bad for a modern system with X 4.0.3.
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> installed and compressed with UPX.
>
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I know -- I'm talking about the shorter term call. Multicron runs
"periodic" statements every 30 minutes or so.
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> On 27 Apr 2001, at 16:32, Jack Coates wrote:
>
&
I've played -- err, managed processes -- with this tool. It's extremely
amusing, but a little nerve-wracking unless you have a top window nearby
to translate pid-to-process. Killing X or the shell you started
psdoom from puts a quick end to the game :-)
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consolidation. So, I just bought a good Courier modem off of Ebay and
arranged dedicated dial with my existing ISP. It's not like I play a lot
of games anymore anyway :-)
Thanks everyone for the tips, and look forward to some PPP images.
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Mike Noyes wrote:
> Jack Coates, 2001-04-27 08:25 -0700
> >On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Mike Noyes wrote:
> >
> > > Jack Coates, 2001-04-27 07:12 -0700
> > > >
> > > > > >running, as "echo test > file" won't wo
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Mike Noyes wrote:
> Jack Coates, 2001-04-27 07:12 -0700
> >
> > > >running, as "echo test > file" won't work if the disk is
> > > >full. So...be cautious turning Nessus loose on your own
> > > >LRP box.
> >running, as "echo test > file" won't work if the disk is
> >full. So...be cautious turning Nessus loose on your own
> >LRP box. :)
>
> I think this is a problem. I believe the ramdisk shouldn't fill up under
> any circumstances. Can we change log rotate to trigger on file size in
> addition to
on't really need to add
bill collection and technical support to my list of extracurricular
activities.
Anything I overlooked, or should I just buy a better analog modem and
get used to dedicated dial-up?
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On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Mike Sensney wrote:
> At 09:34 PM 04/23/2001 -0400, George Metz wrote
>
> >Okay. I got the basic-level kernel compiled. Here'
I just hunted through my module archives and I've never built it as a
module...
I also did a google search, but the only ones I turned up in reasonable
timeframe were compiled for NetBSD. Those are 51K (!).
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this was my experience as well -- I don't have numbers on hand, but I
definitely reduced the size of my kernel by moving unused goodies from
'modular' to 'no.'
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, David Douthitt w
ext2fs would be handy, but it makes things harder on the Windows users.
I think vfat is the best thing to do. I use vfat in my kernel -- it's
15K in 2.2, 16K in 2.4. UPX would turn that into .003 bytes, right :-)
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hole Internet" trick because you're likely to get
registered addresses on the wireless net from time to time. Routing into
the LAN is easy, but routing from the wireless area to the Internet is
going to be challenging.
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Scott C. Best wrote:
> Jack:
> Hurm. I know that I can't assure you of "a". In
> fact, quite the opposite: I have no idea what people will
ntenna...
The risks aren't new (WEP == wired equivalent protocol and imagine a
hub with a patch cable reaching out to the street for anyone to use),
but they are recently publicized which means lots more script kiddies
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ation, removal of the routing-specific stuff, editing of menus,
packaging the applications to be run, and testing.
Let's say it's far from release. I would love to put it in CVS, and
will follow whatever scheme is used by everyone else.
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I would definitely put serial back in for those of us who use serial
console. Everything else looks like a good idea.
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On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, George Metz wrote:
> Okay gang, got the FTP security patch from the Netfilter boys and
that sounds like a good thing.
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Mike Noyes wrote:
> Everyone,
> I belive this ELC announcement is significant. Opinions?
>
> Unified Embedded Platform Specification Established and
> Promoted by
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, David Douthitt wrote:
> ready. However, with the VERY imminent possibility of a new baby
> coming, and having held up the Repository for a couple of weeks as it
Congratulations! Hopefully you'll get one of the ones that sleeps at
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> The snapshot is at
> http://leaf.sourceforge.net/pub/oxygen/oxygen-2.1.3-041101.bin
>
> Tell me what you think of this
>
I think I can't wait for DSL tomorrow... This is going to be fun.
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On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, David Douthitt wrote:
> Jack Coates wrote:
> >
> > well, http://www.mac.linux-m68k.org is p
the URL method linked to the devel pages is the best way, IMHO. That way
when I finally get around to doing rsync (shortly after getting my DSL
restored on Thursday).
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> Jack Coates, 200
sure thing. Would it accept symlinks? I'm hoping to get rsync working in
order to put stuff onto sourceforge.net.
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On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Mike Noyes wrote:
> Jack Coates, 2001-04-06 21:18 -0700
> >use whatever you need,
with it
until I can take time to mirror the disks.
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On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, George Metz wrote:
> Oh wow. That'll teach me to compile when I'm tired.
>
> Okay gang, skip the kernel, I need to do a recompile. Forgot to
well, http://www.mac.linux-m68k.org is probably a better fit for David
-- ain't nothing running on a Mac Plus except what it came with. I think
PalmOS might be a good fit, but the HCI issues would bite :-)
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thanks for the tip! I'll be looking into some more training/cert stuff
in the next month, so hopefully this will fold in well.
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On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, Ray Olszewski wrote:
> Jack -- You might look for better instructors (or
(as opposed to configuration which is present in
or mimics "regular Linux" or belongs to an application).
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> The CDROM is pretty cleaned up and almost ready.
>
> I'm curr
ct my next hardware project to research is solar panels :-)
Big iron running clustered microdistributions... mmm, chewy goodness...
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On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, David Douthitt wrote:
> There's been some discussion of apkg I missed
I prefer radiocasts, which is fine since they transmit well over the
internet -- majorleagebaseball.com and soon to be non-free.
Go Giants!
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On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, George Metz wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Scott C. Best wrote:
nyone interested in programming took lots of math in school,
right? And then it's all over. I'm learning, but so far shell script is
where it's at for me.
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On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, David Douthitt wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTE
Looks like I'm late to the party (man, it's been a long, long week) but
I have to agree: Mike's done a fabulous and professional job of project
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Steven Peck wrote:
> I have to go
I expand the lrp's as a regular user to avoid that.
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On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Scott C. Best wrote:
>
> Actually I like .lrp as well, though my complaint
> with it is different. I find it difficult to extract fil
use whatever you need, by all means. Note that this permission only
applies to things I wrote :-)
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Monkeynoodle: It's what's for dinner!
On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Eric Wolzak wrote:
> Hello all, especially Mike, charles,Ray, Steven, Jack, Rick, and all
> othe
n unpatched kernel with LRP, so it
> may make sense at some point to omit the patches, and make non-ramdisk
> startups a configuration option.
>
Depends on what you're trying to do -- to me the ramdisk is a huge
advantage: system runs from a very fast medium which is just barely
bi
nope -- they still don't have it together. Rumor has it there's a BIOS
issue with the stinkpad, which I'll be investigating shortly.
"I hear the train a comin, it's comin round the bend
and I ain't seen the sunshine since I don't know when."
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twice as fast -- granted I'm using a different application set, but Star
Office is usable (can't say that about the P200 I used to have), Gimp is
speedy, Netscape is quite quick.
There's my non-productive message for the day...
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Power Trip.
:-)
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, David Douthitt wrote:
> George Metz wrote:
>
> > I at one point was - while I was still a dreamy schmuck and thought I knew
> > something (right before I tried to puzzl
difference between page-swapping and disk-caching -- my bad terminology.
Anyway looks like there's no problem.
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Monkeynoodle: It's what's for dinner!
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, David Douthitt wrote:
> Jack Coates wrote:
>
> > This got me thinking -- does LR
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, George Metz wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, Jack Coates wrote:
>
> > (auto-configuring PCMCIA modems on modern hardware excepted). I'm
> > getting close though -- hardware is good, chat script is munged.
> > Whatever.
>
> It's always s
yup, that's it -- Danbury would be SNET territory, right?
Man, I haven't had to deal with modems in a long while
(auto-configuring PCMCIA modems on modern hardware excepted). I'm
getting close though -- hardware is good, chat script is munged.
Whatever.
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