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2.4 is fine as-is: people using it for production systems are not likely
to move off it for a long time (if ever). You have it, it works, there's
little impetus in general to move to anything else, with all the
additional effort/risk/cost i
On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 10:51, Mike Noyes wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 09:14, David Douthitt wrote:
> > The makebootfat utility that was mentioned previously should be able to
> > do that. According to their docs:
> >
> > The USB-HDD (Hard Disk Drive) standard is the preferred
> > choice
On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 09:14, David Douthitt wrote:
> The makebootfat utility that was mentioned previously should be able to
> do that. According to their docs:
>
> The BIOS USB boot support is generally differentiated
> in three categories: USB-HDD, USB-FDD and USB-ZIP.
>
> The USB
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 17:24, Mike Noyes wrote:
> Looking a bit further on the puppy linux site revealed they have a
> script for initializing a bootable usb drive.
>
> http://puppylinux.org/wikka/USB
> "Another alternative is that you can install Puppy
> tot
Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
It should be possible to make an image that has an HDD partition table
with a smallish (ie: maybe 8 Megs or so, still a *LOT* bigger than a
floppy) FAT partition containing the boot files as the first partition.
The remaining space could be unused, or formatted and us
On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 08:50, Mike Noyes wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 00:59, Luis.F.Correia wrote:
> > But I'm willing to 'sacrifice' one of my USB sticks
Luis,
I think backing up your USB drive's MBR using dd should avoid any
sacrifice. It should probably be a recommended first step.
So
On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 00:59, Luis.F.Correia wrote:
> > From: Charles Steinkuehler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > This should make it unnecessary to know the size of the USB
> > key (as long as the key is bigger than the boot partition
> > size). The geometry issue shouldn't generally be a
> > p
I am available too for testing.
having different epia, and a couple of assembled pcs.
Regards,
Andrea
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"Handcrafted systems with industrial quality"
[Web: http://www.faino.org ]+[Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
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> Subject: RE: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages
>
> Hi!
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Charles Steinkuehler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >
> > IIRC, a USB keys can be formatted as a "floppy" type device
&
f needed.
Jorn
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Hi!
> -Original Message-
> From: Charles Steinkuehler
Hi!
> -Original Message-
> From: Charles Steinkuehler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> IIRC, a USB keys can be formatted as a "floppy" type device
> (ie: one partition), or as a HDD (ie: 4 primary partitions).
>
> It should be possible to make an image that has an HDD
> partition table
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 17:12, Mike Noyes wrote:
> I found this usb page at the Puppy Linux project. I know it's not much.
> I hope Charles' suggestion is of better utility.
>
> The Puppy Working USB Page
> http://puppylinux.org/wikka/USBWorking
Eric,
Looking a bit further on the pu
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 07:47, Mike Noyes wrote:
> Understood. I'll keep looking.
Eric,
I found this usb page at the Puppy Linux project. I know it's not much.
I hope Charles' suggestion is of better utility.
The Puppy Working USB Page
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/USBWorking
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Eric Spakman wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> The problem with this kind of tools is that they expect a real USB-key
> available with a certain size. The problem is that we need to create and
> image where a few aspects are uncertain:
> -The size of the usb-key
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 11:56, Eric Spakman wrote:
> The FAT fs has my preference, the driver is compiled in the kernel and
> it's easier to copy packages to it from a Windows computer.
Eric,
Understood. I'll continue searching for a solution.
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Mike Noyes
http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes/
S
Hello Mike,
>> I am wondering if may be used an ext2 filesystem. With that and
>> extlinux (present in the last syslinux distribution) I think it's easy
>> to boot from usb (and others).
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andrea
>>
>
> Eric,
> Does Andrea's suggestion help?
>
The FAT fs has my preference, the driv
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 09:07, Mike Noyes wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 08:11, Andrea Fino wrote:
> > I am wondering if may be used an ext2 filesystem. With that and extlinux
> > (present in the last syslinux distribution) I think it's easy to boot
> > from usb (and others).
>
> Does Andrea's sug
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 08:11, Andrea Fino wrote:
> Mike Noyes wrote:
> >On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 02:43, Eric Spakman wrote:
> >>Can someone take a look at this link and create some script around it
> >>which creates an USB-flash image?
> >>
> >>>Makebootfat Bootable FAT Disk Creation
> >>>7 Multi Stand
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 07:20, Eric Spakman wrote:
> The problem with this kind of tools is that they expect a real USB-key
> available with a certain size. The problem is that we need to create and
> image where a few aspects are uncertain:
> -The size of the usb-key (Mbytes)
> -Geometry
Eric,
>Fro
Hi Mike,
The problem with this kind of tools is that they expect a real USB-key
available with a certain size. The problem is that we need to create and
image where a few aspects are uncertain:
-The size of the usb-key (Mbytes)
-Geometry
We need a generic tool which creates a bootable image that
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 02:43, Eric Spakman wrote:
> Can someone take a look at this link and create some script around it
> which creates an USB-flash image?
>
> > Makebootfat Bootable FAT Disk Creation
> > 7 Multi Standard USB Booting
> > http://advancemame.sourceforge.net/doc-makebootfat.html
Er
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 17:19, Mike Noyes wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 12:50, Nathan Angelacos wrote:
> > On Wednesday 15 March 2006 15:03, Eric Spakman wrote:
> > > Who is going to put the available lwp packages in
> > > leaf/bin/config/webconf? Just a question.
> >
> > I can take care of the
Hello all,
Can someone take a look at this link and create some script around it
which creates an USB-flash image?
Eric
>
> Eric,
> Does document help?
>
>
> Makebootfat Bootable FAT Disk Creation
> 7 Multi Standard USB Booting
> http://advancemame.sourceforge.net/doc-makebootfat.html
>
>
> --
>
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 16:21, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
> I'd like to ask, what's your experience using a 2.6 kernel compared to a 2.4
> kernel for a router?
KP,
I think Tom Eastep might have a list of a few benefits of kernel 2.6
over 2.4 for firewalls. Ray and Charles may have some insights on the
Am Mittwoch, 15. März 2006 16:29 schrieb Venki Iyer:
> In any case, I did roll a 2.6-based version of Bering late last year
> (started out as a project effort, turned into a labor of love - thanks
> guys!), could probably push it back into one of the project trees if
> there is any interest. I'm no
Eric,
Absolutely yes! Still haven't received your own email on this topic,
though I'm seeing others from you - I'll pop you email offlist ...
-Venki
On 03/15/2006 02:37 PM, Mike Noyes wrote:
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 12:20, Eric Spakman wrote:
Instead of creating a new branch, we can al
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 12:50, Nathan Angelacos wrote:
> On Wednesday 15 March 2006 15:03, Eric Spakman wrote:
> > Who is going to put the available lwp packages in leaf/bin/config/webconf?
> > Just a question.
>
> I can take care of the ones that are in my devel area. (That would be all of
> them
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 12:49, Venki Iyer wrote:
> Yes to the first, the second needs some work ... :-)
Venki,
I apologize. You're already a leaf project member. I really should check
our developer list. Just another example of a mistake I wouldn't have
made before my accident. :-(
http://s
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 12:49, Venki Iyer wrote:
> Yes to the first, the second needs some work ... :-)
Venki,
Please send me your SF user name, and I'll make you a leaf project
member.
Note to self: Review all messages marked important for new
project member additions.
--
Mike No
Hi Nathan,
>> If the directory is populated we have to change our image script to
>> download the webconf packages from this location (this is a reminder for
>> myself ;).
>
> You already do, so no changes needed.
>
We use a script to download the lwp files from your CVS space for creation
of CD
Hi Eric & Mike,
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 15:03, Eric Spakman wrote:
> Hello Mike,
>
> Thanks!
>
> Who is going to put the available lwp packages in leaf/bin/config/webconf?
> Just a question.
I can take care of the ones that are in my devel area. (That would be all of
them, AFAIK)
> If the d
Hi Mike,
Yes to the first, the second needs some work ... :-)
-V
On 03/15/2006 02:11 PM, Mike Noyes wrote:
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 07:29, Venki Iyer wrote:
In any case, I did roll a 2.6-based version of Bering late last year
(started out as a project effort, turned into a labor of love
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 12:29, Eric Spakman wrote:
> Looks promising! Thanks for searching.
Eric,
You're most welcome. I'm glad I was able to locate something that might
prove useful. :-)
> >>> This would be the same sort of setup we would use:
> >>> fdisk the pendrive, make it bootable, copy the c
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 12:20, Eric Spakman wrote:
> Instead of creating a new branch, we can also join effort?
Eric,
Yes. That is always an option. :-)
> > On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 07:29, Venki Iyer wrote:
> >> In any case, I did roll a 2.6-based version of Bering late last year
> >> (started out as
Hello Mike,
Looks promising! Thanks for searching.
Eric
>>> This would be the same sort of setup we would use:
>>> fdisk the pendrive, make it bootable, copy the contents, syslinux it
>>> and edit some files. This is no image setup and that's where I'm
>>> looking after.
>>
>> Ok. I'll see
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:59, Mike Noyes wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:09, Eric Spakman wrote:
> > > http://wiki.debian.org/BootUsb
> > >
> > This would be the same sort of setup we would use:
> > fdisk the pendrive, make it bootable, copy the contents, syslinux it and
> > edit some files. This
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 12:03, Eric Spakman wrote:
> Who is going to put the available lwp packages in leaf/bin/config/webconf?
> Just a question.
Eric,
It depends on who we want to grant write access to in avail. Existing
binary lwp packages, already stored elsewhere in our repository, will
require
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 07:29, Venki Iyer wrote:
> In any case, I did roll a 2.6-based version of Bering late last year
> (started out as a project effort, turned into a labor of love - thanks
> guys!), could probably push it back into one of the project trees if
> there is any interest. I'm not s
Hello Mike,
Thanks!
Who is going to put the available lwp packages in leaf/bin/config/webconf?
Just a question.
If the directory is populated we have to change our image script to
download the webconf packages from this location (this is a reminder for
myself ;).
Eric
> On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 11
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 11:13, Mike Noyes wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:54, Nathan Angelacos wrote:
> > That way a developer could also upload a binary lwp (or lrp, yes, there are
> > webconf lrps)
>
> Ah. I missed the bin/ in Eric's post. Not something that I'd have missed
> before. :-(
>
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:54, Nathan Angelacos wrote:
> On Wednesday 15 March 2006 13:40, Mike Noyes wrote:
> I'm ok with it; although it should probably be combined with Eric's
> suggestion of leaf/bin/config/webconf
>
> That way a developer could also upload a binary lwp (or lrp, yes, there are
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:09, Eric Spakman wrote:
> > http://wiki.debian.org/BootUsb
> >
> This would be the same sort of setup we would use:
> fdisk the pendrive, make it bootable, copy the contents, syslinux it and
> edit some files. This is no image setup and that's where I'm looking
> after.
Er
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 13:40, Mike Noyes wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:09, Nathan Angelacos wrote:
> > What's NOT in leaf/src/config/webconf is all of the .lwp's (anything
> > beyond webconf.lrp / webconf.lwp)Perhaps there's a place for them in
> > the same spot.
>
> Nathan,
> How abou
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:34, Eric Spakman wrote:
> > What's NOT in leaf/src/config/webconf is all of the .lwp's (anything
> > beyond webconf.lrp / webconf.lwp)Perhaps there's a place for them in
> > the same spot.
> >
> leaf/bin/config/webconf?
> Mike, do you agree?
Eric,
Either location is a
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:09, Nathan Angelacos wrote:
> What's NOT in leaf/src/config/webconf is all of the .lwp's (anything beyond
> webconf.lrp / webconf.lwp)Perhaps there's a place for them in the same
> spot.
Nathan,
How about a new directory in src/config called lwp? We can open that
di
Hello Nathan,
>>> Also it would be
>>> nice if the contents of Nathan's CVS space could be moved to a more
>>> generic place (I think we need Kp for this).
>>
>> This requires opening a SR with the SF staff. Any one of our project
>> admins can do this.
>
> Clarfication -
>
>
> webconf (the core)
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 09:58, Nathan Angelacos wrote:
> I fully recognize that nobody else is stepping up as "Documentation/Website
> Admin", and we all appreciate the job you are doing.
Nathan,
Unfortunately, I'm not doing a very good job. :-(
> On Wednesday 15 March 2006 11:02, Mike Noyes wrote
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 12:48, Mike Noyes wrote:
> > Also it would be
> > nice if the contents of Nathan's CVS space could be moved to a more
> > generic place (I think we need Kp for this).
>
> This requires opening a SR with the SF staff. Any one of our project
> admins can do this.
Clarficat
Hello Mike,
>
>> -Does someone know how to create an image which can be installed on a
>> USB-flash key? Is there some sort of tool (GPL) available which creates
>> such an image and/or makes a flash disk bootable?
>
> I think DSL has documentation on this.
>
>
> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/
Mike,
I fully recognize that nobody else is stepping up as "Documentation/Website
Admin", and we all appreciate the job you are doing. I hope you'll take
these as comments of what one person sees could make things a little better.
Its just my perspective - and you are more than welcome to
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 08:57, Eric Spakman wrote:
> To get things going: can you make a link from the mainpage to the lwp
> development documentation in the Bering-uClibc section?
Eric,
I think an article for the hub is in order. That would give links and
information. KP or I can post it, but I thi
Hello Mike,
>>> I agree. I thought this content was incorporated into the
>>> bering-uclibc documentation. :-(
>>
>> It is:
>> http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/guide/buc-devel.html
>> http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/guide/buc-install.html
>>
>
> Eric,
> Hum, a google search using "site:leaf.sourcef
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 08:03, Eric Spakman wrote:
> > I agree. I thought this content was incorporated into the bering-uclibc
> > documentation. :-(
>
> It is:
> http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/guide/buc-devel.html
> http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/guide/buc-install.html
Eric,
Hum, a google search
Hello Mike,
>> To get to these links, I went to http://leaf.sourceforge.net ->
>> Developers (box at top) -> Angelacos, Nathan (What's Related Box) ->
>> Webconf
>> (UI Box) Not exactly where I would look it I wanted to develop a web
>> interface for LEAF
>
> I agree. I thought this content was
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 07:09, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 15. März 2006 15:48 schrieb Mike Noyes:
> > Have you or anyone else on the bering-uclibc team asked for help?
>
> Yes, the framework and the lack of lwp's has been mentioned from to time on
> the leaf lists.
KP,
Do you have a pla
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 07:22, Nathan Angelacos wrote:
> > Have you or anyone else on the bering-uclibc team asked for help?
>
> I have. If you have time, please search the mailing lists for the words
> "webconf development" [BTW - Webconf isn't just bering-uClibc - it works
> with classic Ber
I'm sort of echoing Mike's comment here, but I started to move away from
LEAF because a) it remained "floppy" centric, b) no 2.6 support, c) the
ipkg guys have come up with a good scheme for automatable over the wire
updates.
On the other hand, I still do like the "liveCD" aspects, if stand
Mike,
> Eric,
> Have you or anyone else on the bering-uclibc team asked for help?
I have. If you have time, please search the mailing lists for the words
"webconf development" [BTW - Webconf isn't just bering-uClibc - it works
with classic Bering as well. Please don't blame lack of exposur
Am Mittwoch, 15. März 2006 15:48 schrieb Mike Noyes:
> On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 01:43, Eric Spakman wrote:
> > I think other projects are gaining users because they have a nice
> > webconf interface and are easier to setup by less advanced users, not
> > because they're technical better (in the contra
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 01:43, Eric Spakman wrote:
> I think other projects are gaining users because they have a nice
> webconf interface and are easier to setup by less advanced users, not
> because they're technical better (in the contrary). We have a nice
> webconf framework, written by Nathan, b
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