RE: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-17 Thread Luis.F.Correia
Hi! -Original Message- From: Charles Steinkuehler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip IIRC, a USB keys can be formatted as a floppy type device (ie: one partition), or as a HDD (ie: 4 primary partitions). It should be possible to make an image that has an HDD partition table with

RE: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-17 Thread Jorn Eriksen
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luis.F.Correia Sent: 17. mars 2006 10:00 To: leaf-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages Hi! -Original Message- From: Charles Steinkuehler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip IIRC, a USB keys can

RE: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-17 Thread Luis.F.Correia
@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages Hi! -Original Message- From: Charles Steinkuehler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip IIRC, a USB keys can be formatted as a floppy type device (ie: one partition), or as a HDD (ie: 4 primary partitions). It should

RE: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-17 Thread Mike Noyes
On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 08:50, Mike Noyes wrote: On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 00:59, Luis.F.Correia wrote: But I'm willing to 'sacrifice' one of my USB sticks Luis, I think backing up your USB drive's MBR using dd should avoid any sacrifice. It should probably be a recommended first step.

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-17 Thread David Douthitt
Charles Steinkuehler wrote: It should be possible to make an image that has an HDD partition table with a smallish (ie: maybe 8 Megs or so, still a *LOT* bigger than a floppy) FAT partition containing the boot files as the first partition. The remaining space could be unused, or formatted and

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-17 Thread Mike Noyes
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 17:24, Mike Noyes wrote: Looking a bit further on the puppy linux site revealed they have a script for initializing a bootable usb drive. http://puppylinux.org/wikka/USB Another alternative is that you can install Puppy totally

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-17 Thread Mike Noyes
On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 10:51, Mike Noyes wrote: On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 09:14, David Douthitt wrote: The makebootfat utility that was mentioned previously should be able to do that. According to their docs: The USB-HDD (Hard Disk Drive) standard is the preferred choice [...]

[Fwd: 2.4 vs 2.6 [WAS: Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages]]

2006-03-17 Thread Venki Iyer
Missed the cc: earlier ... ---BeginMessage--- 2.4 is fine as-is: people using it for production systems are not likely to move off it for a long time (if ever). You have it, it works, there's little impetus in general to move to anything else, with all the additional effort/risk/cost

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-16 Thread Nathan Angelacos
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 17:19, Mike Noyes wrote: On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 12:50, Nathan Angelacos wrote: On Wednesday 15 March 2006 15:03, Eric Spakman wrote: Who is going to put the available lwp packages in leaf/bin/config/webconf? Just a question. I can take care of the ones that

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-16 Thread Mike Noyes
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 02:43, Eric Spakman wrote: Can someone take a look at this link and create some script around it which creates an USB-flash image? Makebootfat Bootable FAT Disk Creation 7 Multi Standard USB Booting http://advancemame.sourceforge.net/doc-makebootfat.html Eric, I

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-16 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Mike, The problem with this kind of tools is that they expect a real USB-key available with a certain size. The problem is that we need to create and image where a few aspects are uncertain: -The size of the usb-key (Mbytes) -Geometry We need a generic tool which creates a bootable image that

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-16 Thread Mike Noyes
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 08:11, Andrea Fino wrote: Mike Noyes wrote: On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 02:43, Eric Spakman wrote: Can someone take a look at this link and create some script around it which creates an USB-flash image? Makebootfat Bootable FAT Disk Creation 7 Multi Standard USB Booting

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-16 Thread Mike Noyes
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 09:07, Mike Noyes wrote: On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 08:11, Andrea Fino wrote: I am wondering if may be used an ext2 filesystem. With that and extlinux (present in the last syslinux distribution) I think it's easy to boot from usb (and others). Does Andrea's suggestion

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-16 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eric Spakman wrote: Hi Mike, The problem with this kind of tools is that they expect a real USB-key available with a certain size. The problem is that we need to create and image where a few aspects are uncertain: -The size of the usb-key

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-16 Thread Mike Noyes
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 07:47, Mike Noyes wrote: Understood. I'll keep looking. Eric, I found this usb page at the Puppy Linux project. I know it's not much. I hope Charles' suggestion is of better utility. The Puppy Working USB Page http://puppylinux.org/wikka/USBWorking --

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-15 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 07:22, Nathan Angelacos wrote: Have you or anyone else on the bering-uclibc team asked for help? I have. If you have time, please search the mailing lists for the words webconf development [BTW - Webconf isn't just bering-uClibc - it works with classic Bering as

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-15 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 07:09, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: Am Mittwoch, 15. März 2006 15:48 schrieb Mike Noyes: Have you or anyone else on the bering-uclibc team asked for help? Yes, the framework and the lack of lwp's has been mentioned from to time on the leaf lists. KP, Do you have a plan to

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-15 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Mike, rant To get to these links, I went to http://leaf.sourceforge.net - Developers (box at top) - Angelacos, Nathan (What's Related Box) - Webconf (UI Box) Not exactly where I would look it I wanted to develop a web interface for LEAF /rant I agree. I thought this content was

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-15 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 08:03, Eric Spakman wrote: I agree. I thought this content was incorporated into the bering-uclibc documentation. :-( It is: http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/guide/buc-devel.html http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/guide/buc-install.html Eric, Hum, a google search using

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-15 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Mike, I agree. I thought this content was incorporated into the bering-uclibc documentation. :-( It is: http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/guide/buc-devel.html http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/guide/buc-install.html Eric, Hum, a google search using site:leaf.sourceforge.net lwp only

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-15 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 08:57, Eric Spakman wrote: To get things going: can you make a link from the mainpage to the lwp development documentation in the Bering-uClibc section? Eric, I think an article for the hub is in order. That would give links and information. KP or I can post it, but I

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-15 Thread Nathan Angelacos
Mike, I fully recognize that nobody else is stepping up as Documentation/Website Admin, and we all appreciate the job you are doing. I hope you'll take these as comments of what one person sees could make things a little better. Its just my perspective - and you are more than welcome to

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-15 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Mike, -Does someone know how to create an image which can be installed on a USB-flash key? Is there some sort of tool (GPL) available which creates such an image and/or makes a flash disk bootable? I think DSL has documentation on this.

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-15 Thread Nathan Angelacos
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 12:48, Mike Noyes wrote: Also it would be nice if the contents of Nathan's CVS space could be moved to a more generic place (I think we need Kp for this). This requires opening a SR with the SF staff. Any one of our project admins can do this. Clarfication -

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-15 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 09:58, Nathan Angelacos wrote: I fully recognize that nobody else is stepping up as Documentation/Website Admin, and we all appreciate the job you are doing. Nathan, Unfortunately, I'm not doing a very good job. :-( On Wednesday 15 March 2006 11:02, Mike Noyes wrote:

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-15 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Nathan, Also it would be nice if the contents of Nathan's CVS space could be moved to a more generic place (I think we need Kp for this). This requires opening a SR with the SF staff. Any one of our project admins can do this. Clarfication - webconf (the core) is already in

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-15 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:09, Nathan Angelacos wrote: What's NOT in leaf/src/config/webconf is all of the .lwp's (anything beyond webconf.lrp / webconf.lwp)Perhaps there's a place for them in the same spot. Nathan, How about a new directory in src/config called lwp? We can open that

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-15 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:34, Eric Spakman wrote: What's NOT in leaf/src/config/webconf is all of the .lwp's (anything beyond webconf.lrp / webconf.lwp)Perhaps there's a place for them in the same spot. leaf/bin/config/webconf? Mike, do you agree? Eric, Either location is

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-15 Thread Nathan Angelacos
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 13:40, Mike Noyes wrote: On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:09, Nathan Angelacos wrote: What's NOT in leaf/src/config/webconf is all of the .lwp's (anything beyond webconf.lrp / webconf.lwp)Perhaps there's a place for them in the same spot. Nathan, How about a new

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-15 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:09, Eric Spakman wrote: http://wiki.debian.org/BootUsb This would be the same sort of setup we would use: fdisk the pendrive, make it bootable, copy the contents, syslinux it and edit some files. This is no image setup and that's where I'm looking after. Eric, Ok.

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-15 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:54, Nathan Angelacos wrote: On Wednesday 15 March 2006 13:40, Mike Noyes wrote: I'm ok with it; although it should probably be combined with Eric's suggestion of leaf/bin/config/webconf That way a developer could also upload a binary lwp (or lrp, yes, there are

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-15 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 11:13, Mike Noyes wrote: On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:54, Nathan Angelacos wrote: That way a developer could also upload a binary lwp (or lrp, yes, there are webconf lrps) Ah. I missed the bin/ in Eric's post. Not something that I'd have missed before. :-( How

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-15 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 12:03, Eric Spakman wrote: Who is going to put the available lwp packages in leaf/bin/config/webconf? Just a question. Eric, It depends on who we want to grant write access to in avail. Existing binary lwp packages, already stored elsewhere in our repository, will require

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-15 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 12:50, Nathan Angelacos wrote: On Wednesday 15 March 2006 15:03, Eric Spakman wrote: Who is going to put the available lwp packages in leaf/bin/config/webconf? Just a question. I can take care of the ones that are in my devel area. (That would be all of them,

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-15 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Am Mittwoch, 15. März 2006 16:29 schrieb Venki Iyer: In any case, I did roll a 2.6-based version of Bering late last year (started out as a project effort, turned into a labor of love - thanks guys!), could probably push it back into one of the project trees if there is any interest. I'm not

Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages

2006-03-15 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 16:21, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: I'd like to ask, what's your experience using a 2.6 kernel compared to a 2.4 kernel for a router? KP, I think Tom Eastep might have a list of a few benefits of kernel 2.6 over 2.4 for firewalls. Ray and Charles may have some insights on the