Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities and U.S. Cities Galore!

Thanks so much, Robert! I think I missed the part about there being software. I think I will go ahead and order the trial version, and the Handybook. I much prefer to have a book, on my desk, then to search for the county information on the Internet. :) Darlene [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Robe

Re: [LegacyUG] An argument for splitting? (knowing I may get "lumps" for this)

Well, I agree when it comes to the final bibliography -- I'm just talking about the source list name, which is simply for our convenience. I realize I'm assuming this doesn't make it into the final bibliography, but come to think about it -- I don't really know that. Anyway, I'm assuming also

RE: [LegacyUG] An argument for splitting? (knowing I may get "lumps" for this)

Tim said the announcements were PASTED onto pages of the Bible, not found between the pages. Jennifer From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TH Sent: Saturday, 22 September 2007 12:21 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] An argument for spl

Re: [LegacyUG] An argument for splitting? (knowing I may get "lumps" for this)

I find it odd that people would source obituaries and news articles found between the pages of a bible differently than similar items located in a notebook or filing cabinet. Why not take the newspaper items out of the Bible and file them with the rest of your obituaries and news articles? AFter al

Re: [LegacyUG] UG process

Bob, Gmail doesn't send you copies of your own posts to mail lists or Yahoo Groups or similar groups. It's just a Gmail "thing", and I admit, it takes some getting used to. Elaine in the Beautiful Missouri Ozarks On 9/21/07, Robert57P via Gmail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Since shortly af

Re: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual

Hmmmyou mustn't use inkjet cartridges thenNice idea tho. -- Original message -- From: TH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I downloaded and printed out the manual on 8.5x11 paper to insert in a 3-ring binder along with the training discs and whatever notes I want to put there.

RE: [LegacyUG] how to source a Bible containing lists, clippings, etc

I routinely put the full email text in the Text of Source for an email I receive. As well as not ticking the box for printing, I also start the text with double brackets [[ so it doesn't export to a gedcom, as I do for uploading to my website. I don't want the entire email on public view. I do thi

Re: [LegacyUG] UG process

None of the e-mails I send to any mailing list is delivered to my gmail.comin box. That's a change from the way RoadRunner and AOL handled things, so I suspect it's a gmail thing. I'm sure spmeone on this list will now complain because I answered an off-topic question. It never fails ;-) On 9/21/0

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

Sara, With regard to the US adoptions, I believe it to be as you have stated. -Original Message- From: Sara Binkley Tarpley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 7:38 pm Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother I want t

RE: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field

I also struggle with the issue of old location/present location. My reason for wanting the present location is to be able to find it on a current-day map. I also want the old location as it is important historically. Currently I have, for example, the very inelegant location: Gross Teschendorf, W

RE: [LegacyUG] How to show a child not adopted in second marriage?

Thanks Margaret! I will leave the 1/2 siblings option turned on. I agree, it just looks a little strange, and I was wondering for a moment if I had perhaps entered the second husband incorrectly. Thanks! Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

I want to make clear that I admitted that it was an error as regards the European countries named, about whose adoption laws I know nothing. And I certainly was not considering monarchies or titles. As far as I know, all US states currently treat adoptees the same as biological children. Sara On

Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field

I want to thank everyone who contributed to this discussion. I think I have found other sources for my questions. I think , for now, I will leave the (city) in the county location but I may change it later. Thanks again, Chuck Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

RE: [LegacyUG] How to show a child not adopted in second marriage?

Thanks Mary: No other kids in the family, so I guess it just looked weird to me. Thanks for the explanation. I'll leave the half sibling display as is. Rob From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Young Sent: September 21, 2007 6:21

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

John Clare wrote: Royalty can adopt, but, as you say, the adopted child would be treated differently from the "heir of the body", which is what the discussion was about. The main differentiation however is that a large number of adoptees are still alive, certainly in England, who were born un

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

Phil Hawkins wrote: "What has this to do with Legacy???" Absolutely nothing Phil, from what I can tell. At the risk of becoming a complete bore, can we *please* stick to discussions about Legacy and the add-ons? Maureen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

Thanks all for advice. Jim On 9/21/07, Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > Jim Smith > Tampa, FL 33624 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfam

[LegacyUG] UG process

Since shortly after I changed my e-mail address, I've been having problems receiving my own posts via this UG. I look at the archives on the web, and I NORMALLY see them there, but they don't make it to me - and occassionally they don't make it to the web archive post either (I sent 1 almost an

Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field

I personally always use the name of the place as it was at the time of the event So (using a Canadian example, as that is where I research) for Etobicoke, York, Ontario, Canada.. before 1841 I name itEtobicoke, York, Upper Canada, British North America bet 1841 and 1867 it is Etob

Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities and U.S. Cities Galore!

Am I missing something? How is US Cities Galore better from the Geo Location that comes with Legacy (well - ok - I think you've gotta download Geo for Legacy, but it is free). Is it "more accurate", or what? Legacy allows you to enter just a city, or just a county, (or even just a state!) to

Re: [LegacyUG] An argument for splitting? (knowing I may get "lumps" for this)

Good question, Tim, Well, this is one of those instances that don't fit neatly into any kind of category. And I thought Janis had a lot of good ideas and suggestions. For regular handwritten entries I'd use "Doe Family Bible-hand-written entry" for the Master source list name. And I THINK I'd

RE: [LegacyUG] How to show a child not adopted in second marriage?

Hi Rob I leave the 1/2 siblings option turned on as I like to see as much of the family composition as I can at a glance. It does look a little strange when the couple are older at 2nd marriage and not likely to have children from that marriage. Make sure you mother's father is designated as your

Re: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual

I downloaded and printed out the manual on 8.5x11 paper to insert in a 3-ring binder along with the training discs and whatever notes I want to put there. The printout used 200 sheets of paper when printed on both sides of the paper. I'd guess the cost, excluding the cost of the notebook was probab

RE: [LegacyUG] How to show a child not adopted in second marriage?

Thanks Ron. I guess I thought you had to be "officially adopted" to be a "step". This was the first time it caught my attention, and I guess it looked a little weird to me. Thanks again! Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguso

Re: [LegacyUG] How to show a child not adopted in second marriage?

Hi Rob, something different you should be doing? quit worrying :-) She'll show fine in reports. The Family View is simply a summary for your convenience that you need to learn to understand. When you have "Show 1/2 kids on," the Family View shows children of both "parents" and indicates whet

RE: [LegacyUG] How to show a child not adopted in second marriage?

Rob, In my view Legacy *is* showing the relationship correctly. Irrespective of age and location your mother is still the step daughter of her mother's second husband. As I have said in another posting Legacy allows one to use "Step" as the status. Ron Ferguson ___

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

He would be entered as a Step-Parent On 9/21/07, Jim Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Greetings: > > Changing the direction a wee bit... > > If the time is prior to 1926, when adoption was formally legalized in > England... how would one enter in the daughter of one of the parents, and > who

Re: [LegacyUG] How to show a child not adopted in second marriage?

Hi, Rob The relationship isn't "1/2 child" but "half sibling" i.e. your mom is half-sister to other children in your grandmother's family. You can turn off the half-sibling display if you don't like it. Just right-click on any child, View, Show 1/2 kids. Regards, Mary Young Legacy User Group gu

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

Hi Jim, She'd be entered as Jane SMITH with an AKA as Jane JONES I'd enter her with two sets of parents. Her mother and unknown father and her mother and Charles JONES. I'd enter parent-child relationships showing Charles as step-father. That's what he would have been if the first relationship

Re: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual

A4 and 4 holes would not work for U.S. customers. I suggest if there might be a loose-leaf format, that it be offered in 8.5" x 11" with three holes, _or_ A4 with four holes, depending on the wishes of the customer. It is possible/probable that such issues are what kept the manuals in bound

RE: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

Jim, I have many such instances in my files (UK) and I have always entered the "new father" as "Step Father", and the child as "Step Son/Daughter" which certainly here is the correct relationship for such circumstances as you describe. Prior to 1926 (and even after) "adoptions" were not uncomm

Re: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual

It's an Excellent idea. John John Zimmerman Mesa, Arizona Tish wrote: I realy like this idea too. Tish I wish the owner's manual was printed on 8x11-1/2 paper, drilled for a 3-ring binder, and shipped loose leaf. We could then put the manual in a binder and insert our own note pages.

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

Anne, They may well be treated the same but the statement that said the law *requires* ALL adoptees be treated the same was in error-period. Even the poster has admitted it was in error. -Original Message- From: Anne Hildrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.c

[LegacyUG] SPAM

Legacy users I have a spam filter which I pay an annual fee for and I notice that 'some' Legacy users emails always end up in there. It's ususally a long list that I just delete in one go but this morning I had a good look throught it. The following Legacy emails were in there. I presume because

RE: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in locationfield

For finding counties and other obscure localities I like the US Geological Survey website, Geographical Names Information System (USGNIS) http://geonames.usgs.gov/redirect.html Another independent city I am currently dealing with is Winchester, Virginia.-- Alice Legacy User Group g

[LegacyUG] How to show a child not adopted in second marriage?

(Years ago) my grandmother remarried. My mom was already married herself and living in a different part of the country. She was never adopted by the second husband, but Legacy is currently showing her as the 1/2 child to him and my grandmother. To illustrate this relationship properly, would I u

Re: [LegacyUG] An argument for splitting? (knowing I may get "lumps" for this)

I can't think of a single valid reason for splitting. :-) However, I'm accomplished with Access and cherish the ability to retrieve a wide variety of information quickly from 1 database. The key with any database is consistency. A database is valueless if you can't extract information relativel

Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field

The USGS Geographic Names Information System also shows Ramona as a populated place in Sacramento County. Kay - Original Message - From: Tom Montgomery To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 10:22 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Correctly enterin

Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities and U.S. Cities Galore!

I think U.S. Cities Galore is paramount important piece of software to have. I am one of its ardent advocates, it is so easy to use. Whenever possible, they include the latitude and longitude of the location. I really appreciate it. (And no, I don't receive anything from them to plug it; I jus

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

Greetings: Changing the direction a wee bit... If the time is prior to 1926, when adoption was formally legalized in England... how would one enter in the daughter of one of the parents, and who was not necessarily related to the other parent? The biological father is not known, but the parentin

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

None to my knowledge; but just what does that prove? It certainly doesn't prove that they *can't* adopt. One exception, while not european and not an heir, was Maximilian of Mexico who did have an adoptee as his heir Several Noble families - the Biron von Curtlands for one, and one branch of t

RE: [LegacyUG] how to source a Bible containing lists, clippings, etc

I mislead you - it's on the Text of Source tab of the Master Source, but I just looked and you DON'T tick it unless you want it to print. I remembered it backwards Janis Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-

Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field

That surprised me. I don't know why Frustration Solution is using that example, but perhaps they forgot to change examples when the new product came out. I tried my copy of Cities Galore, selected California for the state, then selected Ramona for the town. San Diego County correctly came up.

Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field

On 9/21/07, Tom Montgomery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting that the screenshot posted to the web site of Cities Galore > shows the community of Ramona in Sacramento County. To my knowledge the only > Ramona in CA is in San Diego County. Not a good choice for advertising a > product

RE: [LegacyUG] how to source a Bible containing lists, clippings, etc

Great point. I think I agree! Janis From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TH Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 10:22 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] how to source a Bible containing lists, clippings, etc I hate to disagree but I think I

Re: [LegacyUG] An argument for splitting? (knowing I may get "lumps" for this)

IMHO, it used to be advantageous in the days of $L$L$L for hard drive space to be compact.(I bought 10G on drive for $249.00 many years ago). Since the multi G drives, it is the cheapest per Gig ever. We no longer worry about how many K's. Rich in LA CA > Is there a previous email or source on Le

RE: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field

Hello. Legacy newbie here (another refugee of the FTM2008 bomb after nearly 15 years with FTM). Before I launch into my query, allow me to extend my enthusiastic thanks to the FTM folks for making me realize that I was using FTM because I'd always used FTM, which is totally out of character for me.

RE: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field

There is a free town County identfier at rootsweb which gives the county http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/townco.cgi Evan Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:08:24 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field Well, no

RE: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field

Interesting that the screenshot posted to the web site of Cities Galore shows the community of Ramona in Sacramento County. To my knowledge the only Ramona in CA is in San Diego County. Not a good choice for advertising a product... TomM _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field

Chuck, The city of Harrisonburg was created in 1916. Between 1780 and 1916, it was a town in Rockingham County. So, if an event occurred before 1916, I would enter Harrisonburg, Rockingham County, Virginia, USA and after 1916 I would enter Harrisonburg (city), Virginia, USA.. If I know the

Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities and U.S. Cities Galore!

Hi Robert, U.S Cities Galore sounds like A must have! I went to the website and the price is listed for $29.95, for the Cities Galore 2. That is a very reasonable price to pay. Is this just an updated version of the original or is this yet more cities and counties included? How thorough is t

Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field

THAT WAS NOT FUNNY!!! I thought that html/pictures is vs. TOS?! Main Lines: TAYLOR, RICHARDS (Welsh), LIPPINCOTT, KIRKBRIDE and all related & inter-related lines (too many to mention). ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Legacy User Group

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

So what, there would never be any adopted child in the family of the heir to the crown. So your total unrealistic point, isn't such a good point regarding how to treat adopted children as any adopted child in Norway would legally be treated like any families biological children. You may say that

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

Well I am talking realistically while you are talking theoretically, your scenario would never happen. Anne - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother The reality is that there

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

How many heirs to the thrones in Europe have adopted? Anne - Original Message - From: John Clare To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother Royalty can adopt, but, as you say,

RE: [LegacyUG] how to source a Bible containing lists, clippings, etc

Hi Janis Very informative and helpful. I looked for a box to tick to suppress the full text of a source from printing but couldn't find it till I looked in Options, Customise, Sources. Is this where you meant? Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual

Thank you for your generous offer, Bob. Let me try the other suggestions of using the help menu first. I always shy away from the help menu for the same reason: I would rather have a hard copy open beside my computer. But I'll give it a shot again. I like the suggestion of cutting off the binde

RE: [LegacyUG] An argument for splitting? (knowing I may get "lumps" for this)

Tim, until Pat replies, allow me to say that I think you have a good understanding of the Sourcing concept. LUG members have lots of great ways to do this, Here is how I would document your Bible. Repository: Great Aunt's Name, Address, etc. She may have more than one source so only the locati

Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field

Well, not to put down Legacy's GEO, keep in mind there are two other sources we can use. Unfortunately, we have to buy them. They are: U.S. Cities Galore http://www.uscitiesgalore.com/ and The Handybook for Genealogists http://www.everton.com/shopper/productview.php?SKU=8021&Category=Books

Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field

What attachment? Elaine > You have been on this list long enough to know > that you are not supposed to send > attachments. This holds true even if the folks > from Legacy are not around. To > me, this type of violation warrants being > removed from this list permanently!!! Legacy User

Re: [LegacyUG] how to source a Bible containing lists, clippings, etc

I hate to disagree but I think I would separately source the obituaries and other published newspaper articles referring to the actual newspapers, if known, or, at a minimum, the presumed locale of the newspapers so that someone 100 years from now could locate the actual newspaper or a microfilm of

Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field

I have installed Geo and it is listing my grandson's birthplace correctly: Alexandria, Alexandria (city), Virginia, USA Elaine > Strange, my wife was born in "San Fernando, Los > Angeles, California, USA" and I just clicked on the little blue > globe and it verified the entry as correct. > Ver

Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field

Darlene, Good Thought! Thanks for mentioning it ... But my spelling was changed when I verified the location in the Geo files, which is spelled correctly ... Art Seddon, I have other locations with Los Angeles as the county ... The Geo file (little blue globe) confirms ALL locations with Los Ange

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

Royalty can adopt, but, as you say, the adopted child would be treated differently from the "heir of the body", which is what the discussion was about. The main differentiation however is that a large number of adoptees are still alive, certainly in England, who were born under the old system. They

RE: [LegacyUG] how to source a Bible containing lists, clippings, etc

I have become quite the splitter, but I would treat this family Bible as one source. I would inventory, and transcribe each of these elements into a Word document, giving each item a separate name and a consecutive number. I would cut and paste all of it into the Text of Source tab of the Master So

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

The reality is that there is no law which prohibits a royal from adopting. If Crown Princess Victoria decided to adopt and never married then on her death her sister and not her adopted child would become monarch. My point was that a sweeping over-generalization was made and needed to be sho

Re: [LegacyUG] An argument for splitting? (knowing I may get "lumps" for this)

Very interesting! So Pat... as a splitter, how would you handle the following: I have copies of pages from a family bible, and asside from the handwritten births, marriages and deaths, there are also copies of obituaries and wedding announcements etc pasted onto certain pages. I think of all o

Re: [LegacyUG] Twins

Thanks to Mark for your concise answer and to Jenny for yet more evidence of how convaluted the Legacy Help screens are. On 9/20/07, Mark Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Thad, > > > > Right click the children and select Children's setting, then for each > select child, choose Twin from the

RE: [LegacyUG] Names and locations

John, A very useful summary. It is pretty well the system which I use and the methods by which I select how to enter data. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames fro

Re: [LegacyUG] Twins

TH wrote I don't see Twiin(s) in the Help index. The solution to your problem has been answered by someone else, but I thought it worth mentioning for general information that there is also the option to Search the Help files. When you click on Help it opens with the Index Tab "on top" in t

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

Ok you're not really talking realities here, so no one thought about the point that the heir to the throne has to be legitimately born in a marriage. The fact actually is that that is more treating children outside marriage different than adoptive children. That a child could be born outside marr

Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field

Hi Toni, I have come across this, "Never a County", and I knew it was correct, but I checked the spelling and I had one letter wrong. Double check your spelling. Los Angeles does show up as a county for me. I hope this helps! :-D Darlene [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Toni Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual

Please make it A4 and a 4 ring binder Bert - Original Message - From: "Pat Hickin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 3:28 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual I really like this idea! -- Pat - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field

Art, You have been on this list long enough to know that you are not supposed to send attachments. This holds true even if the folks from Legacy are not around. To me, this type of violation warrants being removed from this list permanently!!! !! Ron Bernier > Los Angeles county is there. > >

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual

You may want to consider purchasing the tutorials. They don't go real in-depth like a manual does, but they do give some real good pointers and can help you get going. http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Videos.asp Note that a couple of them are free for downloading. I don't know if the others