Re: [LegacyUG] What is the point of FamilySearch?

2012-04-09 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
There are two or three types of information submitted to IGI/LDS databases. First, transriptions of  documents like a location birth list/census. Next, personal recording of LDS submitted family group sheets and pedigree charts. Accuraccy on all records are not guaranteed. Mostly I  use the

Re: [LegacyUG] Run-time error 3021

2012-04-09 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
You make an issue as to when you save things. Until Legacy has been saved, your data may remain 'unsaved' which means at turn off time, it may not survive the turn off.   'I add name, dob. and pob.(I don't save yet)' From: Marilyn Clark

Re: [LegacyUG] Resetting Defaults

2012-04-09 Thread Ron Ferguson
Marg, The .usr files contain the settings for the various Legacy functions eg. reports. Normally you should not need to bother with them, but sometimes they do get corrupted in which case there is a Reset Button which you can use to reset the file. This restores the default so you will have to

Re: [LegacyUG] Run-time error 3021

2012-04-09 Thread Ron Ferguson
Marilyn, I do not understand Rich’s response either. The technique which you describe is the one which I use all the time without problem. I have just come out of hospital after a few days for a minor op. and whilst I have been following things on my mobile I have not had access to a computer

Re: [LegacyUG] New Census Tool

2012-04-09 Thread Ron Ferguson
Bob, I can confirm your report. I have asked several times for a clarification as to what is happening about this problem, without a response. For those of us which use this option it is a very serious draw back when using the census tool. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: Bob

RE: [LegacyUG] What is the point of FamilySearch 2?

2012-04-09 Thread Alan Pereira
Graham, if you show the quarter in the format from Jan to Mar 1856 then it will transfer as Mar 1856, which apart from manually entering the details, seems the best nFS can offer. There is an option in Options, Customise, Dates near bottom right to globally change between dates to the From to

Re: [LegacyUG] Census tool pick up census sources in the marriage?

2012-04-09 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
My question is what combinations of words, flags, Is needed to tell the program that the event is a census? Since I use CenN1901 (Norway),CenU1930 (USA), CenR1885,  =NebRaska. and many others. I don't mind a one time change to mine to update to 'reccomended style' but what is it.  I had set up

RE: [LegacyUG] What is the point of FamilySearch?

2012-04-09 Thread Alan Pereira
Eliz, How did you manage to add sourcing? Alan Pereira -Original Message- From: Eliz Hanebury [mailto:elizhg...@gmail.com] Sent: 08 April 2012 22:21 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What is the point of FamilySearch? I was able to add new data (my 2X ggmother)

Re: [LegacyUG] What is the point of Family Search 2?

2012-04-09 Thread Ron Ferguson
Jenny, When I first read this problem it seemed to me that the problem was that nFS did not recognise Legacy's Quarter Dates as used for English BMDs (is that correct?). For me, it follows that the problem is not with Legacy, but requires a change by FS, this I cannot see happening. Personally,

Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicate Problem

2012-04-09 Thread Robert Runion
Laird - Thanks a million - that is the best explanation I have ever seen on this subject. The numbering at the highest point is a revelation to me and well worth trying. Many thanks for the clarity and the response. Bob On Apr 8, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Laird wrote: Robert, In addition to

Re: [LegacyUG] What is the point of Family Search 2?

2012-04-09 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 09/04/2012 11:20, Ron Ferguson wrote: When I first read this problem it seemed to me that the problem was that nFS did not recognise Legacy's Quarter Dates as used for English BMDs (is that correct?). Quite correct. If you send, say, a Birth event to nFS which you have recorded as Mar Q

RE: [LegacyUG] What is the point of Family Search 2?

2012-04-09 Thread Alan Pereira
nFS does not allow the between format but will allow from 1 Jan 1856 to 31 Mar 1856 or Mar 1856. I agree with both values not being an accurate reflection of the English BMD Quarter Date. Legacy's quarter date format exports in gedcom as Bet 1 Jan 1856 and 31 Mar 1856 and it will convert that

Re: [LegacyUG] What is the point of Family Search 2?

2012-04-09 Thread brittongen
The Q format is not does not give the date of a vital event; it gives the group identification of a record. Properly, it should be used as a source, not a date. Since it gives the time period the event was recorded, the best date approximation is about the first month of the Q period. All Q

Re: [LegacyUG] What is the point of Family Search 2?

2012-04-09 Thread Ron Ferguson
Of course, the only Event which the Q Date refers is that of the Registration of the BMD, which, for births, can be of a larger range than that which you indicate. The most appropriate date for the record is that which is used by convention, and more importantly by the General Records Office to

Re: [LegacyUG] What is the point of Family Search 2?

2012-04-09 Thread brittongen
Ron, I did not indicate a range beyond pointing out that it is always more than a quarter and may not be accurate to the year. My point was that the Q format is intrinsically not an event date, and using it as such produces errors, as when translated to nFS data. I then derived the best date

Re: [LegacyUG] What is the point of Family Search 2?

2012-04-09 Thread Ron Ferguson
With respect I am far from confused about Q dates, I have been using the GRO indexes for far longer than I care to think, and much longer than the Q dates have existed. Indeed, I remember them being introduced into Legacy. I did not like them then, and still don’t! With regard to the actual

Re: [LegacyUG] Using IntelliShare

2012-04-09 Thread Ron Taylor
Bill, I haven't seen a response to your questions about Intellishare so I'll try to give a brief explanation. I use Intellishare to collaborate with various family researchers on a regular basis. Here are the mechanics of it as I understand it. Others may chime in with a different sense of

Re: [LegacyUG] What is the point of Family Search 2?

2012-04-09 Thread Sherry/Support
Ron, your comments are very interesting (and I love the comment about probablity theory g) Since you're in the UK and probably most of your research is there, your comments on this are most valuable, as are other comments you've made about UK research. Ok - down to my question - where do you

Re: [LegacyUG] What is the point of FamilySearch?

2012-04-09 Thread Kathy Meyer
You can add sources to any piece of information that you add in NFS any time; it's been like that from the beginning. It just doesn't 'auto source' when you important a gedcom or when you add records via LFS. The two systems just don't mesh like that. I'm sure they will get that feature

Re: [LegacyUG] Run-time error 3021

2012-04-09 Thread R G Strong-genes
I believe what he meant was that by you not saving the new person and new event before you add another event you are creating the runtime error because there is no record because you did not save the first record and event. You should save the first event before you create another event. By not

Re: [LegacyUG] Run-time error 3021

2012-04-09 Thread Sherry/Support
She has also sent in a support ticket on this issue and I'm in correspondence with her about it. She can't do what she says she's doing. You have to exit out a window by saving or cancelling before you can add a second event. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon,

Re: [LegacyUG] Census tool pick up census sources in the marriage?

2012-04-09 Thread R G Strong-genes
Mike is right on that point, and support is working on the bug where the census event is under marriage events that it doesn't pick up the person. -Original Message- From: Mike Fry Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 5:51 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census tool

RE: [LegacyUG] What is the point of FamilySearch?

2012-04-09 Thread Alan Pereira
Kathy, I asked the question in case I was missing something. I have added sources myself via gedcom and manually via the web site. Alan -Original Message- From: Kathy Meyer [mailto:kmeyer2...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 April 2012 17:53 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re:

Re: [LegacyUG] Using IntelliShare

2012-04-09 Thread R G Strong-genes
Bill, Ron, The main question you did not answer was what file to use GEDCOM or what? The answer is you should use the Legacy file and not a GEDCOM! And if the file is to use the media files also then you MUST HAVE the file directories the same on all computers (this is why it is better not to use

Re: [LegacyUG] Run-time error 3021

2012-04-09 Thread Ron Ferguson
Sherry, If I have understood the initial problem correctly, then it is possible to do as Marilyn suggests, as I have said it is a technique which I have used many times - and am just getting ready to test again. If you go to the Individual's Information Screen and add the Vital Events, you can

Re: [LegacyUG] New Census Tool

2012-04-09 Thread R G Strong-genes
From April 5th: I have entered a problem report on this issue. The intent was that marriage events would be used to exclude individuals from the search list and the reports. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing

Re: [LegacyUG] Census tool pick up census sources in the marriage?

2012-04-09 Thread R G Strong-genes
I have: Event Name: Census Discription: 1940 U.S. Date: I use the date that it was written on the form Place: whatever Notes: depends on if I have it under marriages or individual. If under marriage then I show the family group, if under individual I just use their line of info Source citation

Re: [LegacyUG] Using IntelliShare

2012-04-09 Thread David Midgley
Ron covered it well as far as I understand it. It has worked well for me for several years now. I learned a few things from Ron that I may try the next time I use Intellishare. Thanks Ron. One thing that might need clarification with your question is that I, and the others I know who use this,

Re: [LegacyUG] Run-time error 3021

2012-04-09 Thread Sherry/Support
Yes - you can add birth,bap/chr, death, bur/cremation and then add an Event without saving the vitals and then add additional events after saving the new Event you just added. It looked to me like she wrote that she was addingEvents/Facts without saving each Add Event window (Then click on add

Re: [LegacyUG] Run-time error 3021

2012-04-09 Thread Ron Ferguson
Sherry, I have just followed the method using the English 1911 census as I described below with 100% success. There were some minor differences, but these should make no difference, they never have before. 1) the family already existed, hence: 2) to the daughter I only had to add a Residence and

Re: [LegacyUG] Run-time error 3021

2012-04-09 Thread Ron Ferguson
Sherry, I know that I'm a little out of practice, and probably easily confused, but I cannot see how my description, varies from your 2nd para! Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Sherry/Support Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 7:47 PM To:

Re: [LegacyUG] New Census Tool

2012-04-09 Thread Ron Ferguson
Thanks, I only saw it after I had posted – it wasn’t on my mobile! Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: R G Strong-genes Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 7:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New Census Tool From April 5th: I have entered a problem report on

Re: [LegacyUG] What is the point of Family Search 2?

2012-04-09 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 09/04/2012 13:55, britton...@comcast.net wrote: The Q format is not does not give the date of a vital event; Which is why I said I am looking at a GRO Index of Registration date and not a suggested, approximate or calculated date of a Vital Event. Seeing a Q date also tells me at a glance

Re: [LegacyUG] Run-time error 3021

2012-04-09 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 09/04/2012 19:08, Ron Ferguson wrote: click the Add Button, now add, say a Residence Event, then again without saving, click the Add Another Button and add the details for, say, occupation. Where is this Add Another Button? I don't have one! The only way I can add the Occupation Event is

Re: [LegacyUG] Run-time error 3021

2012-04-09 Thread Ron Ferguson
-Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 8:17 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Run-time error 3021 On 09/04/2012 19:08, Ron Ferguson wrote: click the Add Button, now add, say a Residence Event, then again without saving, click

Re: [LegacyUG] Run-time error 3021

2012-04-09 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 09/04/2012 20:36, Ron Ferguson wrote: Individual's Information Screen, in the Event Box below click Add, on the Add Event to... Screen: on the right hand side between Zoom and Wordwrap. Oh yes, so it is! Had never consciously noticed that before, and didn't see it just now because I had

Re: [LegacyUG] Run-time error 3021

2012-04-09 Thread Marilyn Clark
OK, I can buy that I have to save the new individual before starting to add events. However, why is there an Add another button on the events screen if I cannot use it before saving that event? The Add another button doesn't even display until I begin adding an event... Anyway, this runtime

Re: [LegacyUG] Run-time error 3021

2012-04-09 Thread Marilyn Clark
Thanks, Ron. this is exactly what I do with the 2 other family files on Legacy that do NOT have this problem. I just re-tested and it still works, just not on my newly-created family file. WITH sourcing thrown in, too, clipboards and all. I even create new sources on the fly while adding a new

Re: [LegacyUG] What is the point of Family Search 2?

2012-04-09 Thread Ron Ferguson
Sherry, I suspect this post will probably lead to a comment about taking my own advice! However, in justification I would say that I try and give best advice rather than something which may lead to confusing others. Firstly, may I point out that my comments on the GRO BMD records apply to England

Re: [LegacyUG] What is the point of FamilySearch?

2012-04-09 Thread Ron Ferguson
Marcy, I have no problem with people using my data and sources, provided they acknowledge my website as being their source for the data. Consequently I only publish full details and sources on my own site, elsewhere the data is limited. For my own site I freely give a Creative Commons License

Re: [LegacyUG] What is the point of FamilySearch?

2012-04-09 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 09/04/2012 22:36, Marcy Cole wrote: Not quite sure why you feel publishing your sources is handing everything on a plate. Because if I do so someone can look at my record and copy the entire record, including Source, to their own database without contacting me, without crediting me and

Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 template

2012-04-09 Thread mbstx
Will it be announced when it's fixed? I don't want to start entering data and then have to go back and find all those entries to fix with the proper information. Marianne-Original Message- From: Geoff Rasmussen Sent: Apr 6, 2012 12:44 PM To:

Re: [LegacyUG] Split Screen

2012-04-09 Thread Mike Fry
On 2012/04/10 00:10, Michele Lewis wrote: Is there any way to do the split screen view with one file on one monitor and the other file on the other monitor? It would be easier to work with the files if they were bigger. Split Screen is two files open in separate windows within a single

Re: [LegacyUG] Resetting Defaults

2012-04-09 Thread Marg Strong
Thanks Ron. I'll check the help files out soon. I'm still not at the point where I'm using a lot of Legacy Deluxe features, but backup I do use. Which probably means I don't have a lot in the .usr files anyhow. I'm working my way up the posts again so if anyone else answered, please accept my

Re: [LegacyUG] What is the point of FamilySearch?

2012-04-09 Thread Kirsten Bowman
Jenny: To post sources or not is certainly your own choice. For those on the fence, though, I'd say this: First, I posted a tree at RootsWeb WorldConnect for about 5 years with no sources cited but with a statement on each page saying that sources were available and I'd be happy to share. Not

Re: [LegacyUG] Split Screen

2012-04-09 Thread Neil Bell
Yes it does work nicely that way - I use it all the time Neil Bell On 4/9/2012 15:45, Kathy Meyer wrote: yes. I believe Sherry answered that awhile backsomeone did anyway. I think what they did was to open them both and then grab the edge and stretch it over the two screens. Kathy On

RE: [LegacyUG] 1940 template

2012-04-09 Thread Michele Lewis
It has already been fixed. I uploaded the new build earlier today. michele From: mbstx [mailto:msz...@mindspring.com] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:42 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 template Will it be announced when it's fixed? I don't want to

RE: [LegacyUG] Split Screen

2012-04-09 Thread Michele Lewis
I tried dragging it over to the other screen but it won't let me. michele -Original Message- From: Kathy Meyer [mailto:kmeyer2...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Split Screen yes. I believe Sherry answered that

Re: [LegacyUG] Split Screen

2012-04-09 Thread Dave Keeney
You need to make sure your Legacy session is not maximized on the first monitor. If it's not maximized you can stretch it to your hearts content. At least I could. Make sure it's resizeable and then just stretch it to the other monitor. On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Michele Lewis

RE: [LegacyUG] Split Screen

2012-04-09 Thread Michele Lewis
Okay, I have Legacy up and running on my main monitor. It is NOT maximized but about 1/2 size. I have the split screen visible. If I try and drag either side of the split screen, it will only go as far as the edge of the Legacy window on my main monitor. It will not let me drag either side

Finding your own sources. Was Re: [LegacyUG] What is the point of FamilySearch?

2012-04-09 Thread Marg Strong
This is probably off topic but it resonated with me. I was given a very complete gedcom, with a fair amount of sourcing (only not as many sources as I would have liked) by a new found relative who had been working on my father's family for years. I did contribute some to him since I had looked

RE: [LegacyUG] Split Screen

2012-04-09 Thread Mark Lang
Michele, I don't have dual monitors, but by deducing your statement; don't drag the split screen, drag the edge of the Legacy program to the other monitor. Logic dictates that by making the Legacy app cross two monitors, will stretch the split screen. Kind Regards Mark Lang -Original

Re: [LegacyUG] Split Screen

2012-04-09 Thread Dave Keeney
I don't know then. I don't remember setting up anything differently in Legacy to make this work for me. And you shouldn't have to. What OS? I'm running W7. I haven't been using 2 monitors as long as you have (just a couple of months). And if other applications able to be put on the other monitor

Re: [LegacyUG] Split Screen

2012-04-09 Thread Brett McL Robinson
I have just tried and confirm that with Legacy open (not maximised) showing a split screen the Legacy window can be dragged across two monitors, so that the split coincides with the join in monitors. I have Win7 64 and similar but not matching monitors. Cheers, Brett, Hamilton 3240, New Zealand

Re: [LegacyUG] Split Screen

2012-04-09 Thread Myrna Jorgensen
I use a program called UltraMon to control my two monitors. Usuallu I have Legacy on one screen and the internet on the other with Ancestry or FamilySearce. I tried with dragging the screen all the way across using two different Legacy families and it worked for me. I think I got UltraMon