Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses

2023-06-07 Thread ne1uno
I feel bad cheating on eliza. it is what it is On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 5:08:39 PM UTC-4 Félix wrote: > I now use it somewhat daily to help translate little snippets and small > methods here and there to help finish leojs, i only used chatGpt which is > gpt3 under the hood. it often makes

GAOTD] Giveaway of the Day. ModusDoc 7.2.310 - Systematization and cataloging of any information. https://www.giveawayoftheday.com/modusdoc-7-2-3/

2019-07-28 Thread ne1uno
Giveaway of the Day. usually windows/wine only ModusDoc 7.2.310 - Systematization and cataloging of any information. https://www.giveawayoftheday.com/modusdoc-7-2-3/ some interesting program description & comments -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-01-07 Thread ne1uno
can I suggest https://www.red-lang.org code is data/data is code. code style agnostic an open-source fork of rebol.org with some forth and logo roots. interesting funding approach, tokenomics. under 2 meg executable cross platform build no additional tools! 2019 is going to be a very big year,

Re: Windows defender is flagging LeoApp.exe as carrying a trojan

2018-03-12 Thread ne1uno
red-lang is having some of the same false positives as python exe packagers not every AV program is tripped up. something as simple as calling up the commandline using the win32 api can do it. it's likely some huristic as Terry says so companies are loathe to change scan results even when pres

Re: Windows defender is flagging LeoApp.exe as carrying a trojan

2018-03-12 Thread ne1uno
I think the included adware problem is an old one. if so, little unfair to bring it up again anything more recent? sourceforge is under new management a simple way to verify is publish a hash for any executable it's extremely unlikely they are repackaging your exe or tampering with Leo in any wa

Leo 5.7b1 released

2018-02-01 Thread ne1uno
QQQ Leo 5.7b1 is now available on SourceForge and on GitHub. As always, many thanks to all ... Links Leo's home page Documentation Tutorials Video tutorials Forum Download Leo on GitHub LeoVue What people are saying about Leo A web page that displays .leo f

Re: [OT-GAOTD] Aml Pages 9.78 - Aml Pages keeps all your information in a form of tree.

2017-02-28 Thread ne1uno
busy, but doesn't seem to have a reply button. On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 7:34:05 PM UTC-5, ne1uno wrote: > > https://www.giveawayoftheday.com/aml-pages-9-78/ > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To

[OT-GAOTD] Aml Pages 9.78 - Aml Pages keeps all your information in a form of tree.

2017-02-27 Thread ne1uno
sh Spoiler Alert Giveaway of the Day. they give away various outliners. editors and others windows programs daily just to try or to keep. registered versions, usually pro or better free till 4am eastern https://www.giveawayoftheday.com/aml-pages-9-78/ Aml Pages 9.78 - keeps al

Re: Leo in 2017

2016-12-27 Thread ne1uno
I had opportunity to use the mercurial shelf in TortoiseHG today. say you want to revert the working tip but don't want to commit. you have a patch for a file or a few files and shelve them revert update then un-shelve the patches and back in business. I see clamoring for multiple body's in Leo wh

Re: Proper copy / paste for Windows

2016-02-25 Thread ne1uno
I didn't know it was an option in X11 there is autocopy for browsers firefox and chrome, I use both, most IRC clients have autocopy turned on. where I first started realizing you get into the habit of thinking everything you select will be copied. I also use ditto, clipboard manager and I have tha

Re: Leo.exe: a christmas present for newbies

2015-12-30 Thread ne1uno
anyone else have problems running leo.exe from the zip file? I don't have a 64bit system to check it on. depends says it's a 64bit file and Xp errors when I try to run it. this appears to be the only 64b file in the distribution. so, back at the dejavu ranch: is there a bat file I can create to se

Re: Coming soon: My Last Lecture

2015-10-18 Thread ne1uno
you will no doubt add a few words about the earlier years? probably most Leonites have no idea what CUJ is (the C Users Journal), and those floppy disks you could order with actual source code for neural networks, AI languages, editors and who knows what would be next. I can recall one Thanksgivin

Re: Making Leo easier to install

2015-10-16 Thread ne1uno
one other option I missed if it was mentioned similar to the VM solution: live CD. anyone already running one of many VM programs like virtualbox can run the ISO directly. anyone else can burn a CD/DVD or install on a bootable flash drive. use a self contained small nix distro. Proteus is one that

Re: Making Leo easier to install

2015-10-16 Thread ne1uno
anyone else find it humorous to start off a post about making installs easier by saying it's already easy to install? ya really have to have gotten the memo by now that it ain't, with respect, I know how many ways this problem has been approached. just a few weeks ago I need a speedier python prog

GAOTD maple outliner

2015-05-28 Thread ne1uno
http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/maple-8-31-pro/ would be interesting to see Leo run their comment gauntlet some day. ease of install and getting up to speed without reading the docs would be important. they have given away plenty of pim & outliner software over the years. does Leo have a bucket

Re: android outliners...

2015-01-31 Thread ne1uno
ePIM has a free android app I am using. divided into 4 modules the app and file format isn't open, but does have import/export from/to csv. can synch with their pc pro version , don't recall if they have *nix version yet because of the android UI in general I find all apps a chore to use. no forw

Aml Pages Outliner Free Today GAOTD

2014-10-06 Thread ne1uno
http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/aml-pages-9-56/ a jam packed (to a fault maybe) outlining note taker with plugins. like most GAOTD, probably windows only. worth a look, first opens into a demo outline w/help, faq, website clone, tips. has this ever been tried w/Leo? it can't be that hard to have

Re: giveawayoftheday inspiration-library

2014-04-02 Thread ne1uno
forgot to mention, available free till 12pm Pacific today windows only they probably have a demo on publisher website other times. On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 5:03:41 PM UTC-4, ne1uno wrote: > > http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/inspiration-library-2-0-6/ > free today with upgrades inclu

giveawayoftheday inspiration-library

2014-04-02 Thread ne1uno
http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/inspiration-library-2-0-6/ free today with upgrades included QQQ Inspiration Library is a application for curating, collecting, and organizing ideas through photos and designs, allowing you to save files and categorize them according to collections and libraries. C

update about Leo google group

2013-05-11 Thread ne1uno
http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor/about still has the old home page webpages.charter.net though it also has leoeditor.com/ for discussions. assuming that is intentional, seems confusing, since the links point back to google groups. looks good. remember with the endless refinement, most peo

Re: Qt has been sold

2012-09-27 Thread ne1uno
open governance the first casualty? On Sep 27, 9:33 am, "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > Here is the announcement: > > http://qt.digia.com/About-us/News/Digias-Completion-Of-Acquisition-Pa... > > My assumption is that this will not negatively impact Leo for the > foreseeable future. > > Any more inform

Re: android/iphone Leo Caution: Suggestion Only

2012-08-02 Thread ne1uno
just saw this on the qtplanet. probably still a little too much juggling for any widespread use. http://blog.rburchell.com/2012/07/qt-5-and-android.html On Aug 1, 10:18 am, Terry Brown wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:41:52 -0700 (PDT) > > Phaze wrote: > > It would probably take a bit of work r

Re: Beyond Leo tweaks

2012-05-29 Thread ne1uno
K. Ream" wrote: > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:17 AM, ne1uno wrote: > > python does obviously have type inference, isn't it good enough? > > Python's interpreter knows the type of objects at run time, that is, > just at the time the interpreter is about to exec

Re: Beyond Leo tweaks

2012-05-24 Thread ne1uno
On May 16, 12:34 pm, "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > From time to time, however, I have the desire to use Leo to do > something else besides develop Leo itself.  Now is such a time.  I > plan to revisit the leoInspect module.  The idea is to develop a very > fast inference engine based on what might

Re: Learning javascript

2012-02-23 Thread ne1uno
On Feb 21, 11:13 am, "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > I've got to learn javascript in order to read the MooTools sources :-) > > Some first steps. > > The MooTools sources are minimized, but not obfuscated.  Googling for > "reformat JavaScript" took me to: > > http://jsbeautifier.org/ > [..] > > I'm sti

Re: Leo standalone exe

2011-11-30 Thread ne1uno
On Nov 29, 3:46 pm, Matt Wilkie wrote: > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:26 AM, ne1uno wrote: > > get regmon & filemon if they are still available from sysinternals [] > regmon and filemon have been superceded by procmon (Process > Monitor):http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sy

Re: Leo standalone exe

2011-11-29 Thread ne1uno
get regmon & filemon if they are still available from sysinternals they shows in realtime what programs are requesting from the filesystem or registry. a real eye opener. On Nov 28, 5:07 pm, Matt Wilkie wrote: > > - the application thinks the name of the exe is the home directory, > > therefore t

Re: talk: differential execution

2011-11-20 Thread ne1uno
On Nov 17, 4:12 pm, Matt Wilkie wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I've been doing some reading, trying to expand my basic (very fuzzy) > understanding of just what programming or software development is. > This thing[1] led to that thing[2] to the other thing[3], as is normal > on this infinite distraction

Re: BZR memory

2011-11-11 Thread ne1uno
a no cost alternative would be to update sourceforge with all the history, then convert to hg. though, like bzr, once something gets into the repo it tends to stick. by starting a google code project, an import from another repo could be used to start hg with full history. bitbucket can be excruci

Re: An avalanche of improvements

2011-11-08 Thread ne1uno
shouldn't there be some way to incorporate the sense of levels in unit tests? level 5 would be minimal syntax checks down to 0 full blown reliability. there is a theory, Jevons paradox, from the 1860's about coal usage, improving the efficiency of a resource actually increases the use of the resour

Re: leoSettings.leo about to change

2011-10-25 Thread ne1uno
forgot to mention, it should be possible as an option to ignore all default Leo "theme" settings. some users would just as soon like Leo to grab default colors/styles from their window manager theme and adhere as much as possible to those. not to say in any way this would be easier. much the oppos

Re: leoSettings.leo about to change

2011-10-25 Thread ne1uno
> Leo will soon do more than what you are > asking directly. rue the day. On Oct 25, 10:16 am, "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:14 AM, ne1uno wrote: > > is there any way extra options could be passed onto QApplication(sys.args)? > the optparse

Re: leoSettings.leo about to change

2011-10-24 Thread ne1uno
Qt lets you set -style= and -stylesheet= from the commandline, but optparse errors on unknown options. on X11 you can set quite a few more options for debug and window controls. is there any way extra options could be passed onto QApplication(sys.args)? maybe with a short informational pseudo --he

Re: Leo: munging and analyzing text

2011-10-23 Thread ne1uno
On Sep 26, 3:38 pm, "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 3:12 PM, ne1uno wrote: > > wouldn't it be great to have a first class c importer? > > Importing C "perfectly" would require AI.  Furthermore, people may > have legitimate prefe

Re: Ratcheting: kaizen and unit tests

2011-10-20 Thread ne1uno
pyqt partially wraps QTest with QTest you can activate buttons, fill in text fields etc. see an example here: http://www.voom.net/pyqt-qtest-example it might also be a simple, although fragile way for users to instrument Leo dialogs and menus. a scripted way to get to a specific Leo setup, to rep

Re: What would lighter programming be like?

2011-10-13 Thread ne1uno
in the interest of the heavy/light distinction, there are quite possibly too many menu choices. Help- -default menus- -beginner -intermediate -advanced -publishing

Re: Leo: munging and analyzing text

2011-09-24 Thread ne1uno
wouldn't it be great to have a first class c importer? hiding the complexity of platform & compiler/option #defines. invisible (TM) nodes would be fruitful here. switched on by @#define. with an @#define= collection node or using a bunch of headlines. and an rclick flipper for true/false, defined/n

[GAOD] Maple Professional compare & contrast

2011-03-18 Thread ne1uno
you're probably too late to get the freehe giveaway, but some of the comments related to the app some will find interesting, http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/maple-professional/ QQQ Maple Professional is the flagship of the tree outline managers for power users. It enables you to create hierarchical

Re: Create Leo as an executable .EXE file?

2010-08-14 Thread ne1uno
On Aug 13, 9:47 am, Steve Allen wrote: > Having the program as an .EXE would allow you to bypass this > restriction by creating it as a "Portable App", which is able to be > ran from a USB stick. Just food for thought. another route is portableapps.com, I use winmerge and firefox portable and

Re: @root must disappear

2010-08-08 Thread ne1uno
On Aug 6, 9:05 pm, "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > The great collapse in complexity has taken away almost all the blah, > blah, blah of LP (Literate programming). > > Gone are discussions of noweb, CWEB, LaTeX. Leo still supports these > languages, but it does so gracefully, without making a big deal a

Re: @root must disappear

2010-08-08 Thread ne1uno
On Aug 6, 9:05 pm, "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > On Aug 6, 5:18 pm, "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > > > On my bicycle ride today I had a "road to Damascus" moment: It is > > time to kill @root, or at least send to it the attic, there to be quickly > > forgotten. > > The great collapse in complexity has

Re: [day job] Qt development on maemo phones video

2010-07-30 Thread ne1uno
On Jul 26, 2:14 pm, "Ville M. Vainio" wrote: > > N900 can't run new versions of Leo anymore, because it has python 2.5. as of a few months ago, well after everything worked in py3.0, there were only 3 or 4 (totally gratuitous IMHO) one line, or two line very localzed syntactic sugar type change

Re: Engelbart's NLS

2010-04-08 Thread ne1uno
On Mar 24, 12:07 am, June Kim wrote: > Hello, > > As I embarked on the journey of learning and using Leo, it constantly > reminded me of Engelbart's NLS[1]. [] > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NLS_%28computer_system%29 > > Were orginators of Leo aware of NLS, and did they take any concepts from it

Re: Second try: stupendous Aha re unit tests

2010-02-23 Thread ne1uno
On Feb 22, 8:21 am, val bykovsky wrote: > Hi Edward and All: > To me your post is very interesting and needs > time to think it through and respond [] > Imagine a 'programmable' (that is, flexible, reconfigurable) > material. Each constraint is in fact a control which drives an > iterati

Re: Leo 4.7 delayed until critical issues fixed [OT] shuttle

2010-01-20 Thread ne1uno
On Jan 20, 4:57 am, "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > The two space shuttle disasters are a clear warning that schedule > goals can be the enemy of quality. while the proximate cause of that shuttle burning up being caused by tile damage might have been averted by a tighter maintenance schedule for vari

Re: Improving Leo's body pane

2009-10-21 Thread ne1uno
there are also style sheet options possible. somewhere to be included in the page or in a resource or settings file. global or per body text. take a look at this html editor demo. has the source view tabs being contemplated. also a handy zoom slider for text size. I believe it is using the webkit

Re: OT: The Monty Hall Problem

2009-10-07 Thread ne1uno
On Oct 6, 3:56 pm, "James A. Donald" wrote: > Jesse Aldridge wrote: > > > The connection to global warming is that there are > > situations where cooperation breaks down. Not because > > people don't understand the situation, but because > > circumstances compel them to take harmful (though

Re: RC1 observations

2009-07-04 Thread ne1uno
On Jul 1, 9:38 am, "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:40 AM, tfer wrote: > a > find/replace. > Alt-ctrl keys toggle the find checkboxes. > > The search tab is for feedback only. > rather than chiding people to unplug their mice, would it not be more leonic to just make the find

Re: Understanding @leo.directive

2009-04-21 Thread ne1uno
On Apr 20, 7:31 am, "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:20 AM, ne1uno wrote: > > > On Apr 16, 7:57 am, "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > > > Are you 'e'? If so, it's great to hear from you again. never gone. > >

Re: Understanding @leo.directive

2009-04-19 Thread ne1uno
On Apr 16, 7:57 am, "Edward K. Ream" wrote: [] > My hunch is that these ideas are important, perhaps extremely > important. > > The present situation reminds me of my first impression of e's > dynaButtons. I didn't really understand them at first, but the phrase > "bring scripts to nodes" event

Re: Further IRC improvements to #leo

2008-12-16 Thread ne1uno
drmike, you should be able to change the topic. #Leo channel is topic locked so chanserv maintains topic: /msg ChanServ TOPIC #leo whatever good job with the bot's & logs. IRC is just not what people seem to think of first these days. most channels have too few or too many people active. not to m

Re: The next 20 years? Programs making programs

2008-12-03 Thread ne1uno
On Dec 3, 11:27 am, "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > So this is the Aha: I can continue to do what I've always done, > but > expand its application to something much more exciting than > editors. [...] > So lib2to3 is just the first baby step towards treating Python > programs as data in interesting wa

Leo bzr snapshot problem

2008-11-20 Thread ne1uno
note the small size on yesterdays snapshot from http://www.greygreen.org/leo/ leo-bzr-snapshot-200811200253.zip (1 day old) Bytes: 435 the zip only contains part of a readme. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: Fatal Python error: GC object already tracked

2008-11-14 Thread ne1uno
On Nov 14, 12:11 am, zpcspm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 14, 6:52 am, ne1uno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > py2.5 on win98 > > Ouch, that's hardcore. > Why would you use such an ancient and unstable OS? > Win98 is notorious for being unstabl

Fatal Python error: GC object already tracked

2008-11-13 Thread ne1uno
Fatal Python error: GC object already tracked This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way. Please contact the application's support team for more information. has anyone seen Leo dissapear & python quit with this message? obviously, any unsaved work is lost. happ

Re: no downloadable source distribution weekly? nightly?

2008-07-02 Thread ne1uno
> > Well, it's on an Ubuntu box that runs 24x7 (it has a lot of other > > duties), so it's run at 2:53 am every day by the cron task. Hence the > > timestamp on the newest snap athttp://www.greygreen.org/leo/ > > > So on the server there's a line in my crontab that looks like this: > > Thanks for