Re: Getting rid of alignment faults in userspace

2011-06-18 Thread Steve Langasek
ocess. If this can be sanely togglable on ARM at runtime, it would be keen to use the same interface on this arch. HTH, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer

Re: Bootchart analysis

2011-05-20 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:32:21AM +0100, Dave Martin wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 02:20:59PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 02:48:25PM -0300, Ricardo Salveti wrote: > > > > 2) too many shells started to parse shell scripts > > > I can

Re: Bootchart analysis

2011-05-19 Thread Steve Langasek
rts" here is surprising; I'm not aware of anything that should call this in the normal boot sequence. The closest I can think of is update-motd, but that should only trigger as part of a login session, not with an autologin. I think digging into this further will turn up a bug... -- Stev

Re: Panda boards and 1GB of RAM.

2011-04-27 Thread Steve Langasek
e-tools in Ubuntu natty since February. If you use linaro-media-create from the bzr branch when writing to the SD card, you should see more memory available. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer

Re: Libraries with NEON backends

2011-03-29 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:07:05AM +0300, Konstantinos Margaritis wrote: > On 29 March 2011 10:53, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Hi Konstantinos, > > There must be some misunderstanding here; no license that prohibited > > distribution of binaries built from modified source

Re: Libraries with NEON backends

2011-03-29 Thread Steve Langasek
entation would be appreciated but is not required. 2. Altered source versions must be plainly marked as such, and must not be misrepresented as being the original software. Are you looking at a different zlib license than this one? -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long eno

Re: [PATCH] Dpkg/Shlibs.pm: multiarch search paths

2011-03-23 Thread Steve Langasek
n support. > gcc-4.5 seem to build fine. Your mail doesn't seem to have made it through to the Debian mailing lists, and it arrived at the linaro list with the attachments stripped (presumably for size). :( Can you post these logs on a website somewhere? -- Steve Langasek Gi

Re: Getting rid of update-alternative in cross toolchain packages

2011-03-15 Thread Steve Langasek
acked (enforced by the Conflicts: from gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi) - gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi unpacked; overwrites /usr/bin/arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc symlink - gcc-4.5-arm-linux-gnueabi configured; u-a remove runs, removing the symlink - gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi configured - but the gcc symlink is now

Re: Making linaro-nano smaller or Give Up Disk Space for Lent

2011-03-11 Thread Steve Langasek
rupts the db. So this is an all or nothing proposition. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga...@u

Re: Making linaro-nano smaller or Give Up Disk Space for Lent

2011-03-11 Thread Steve Langasek
s in the current nano seed are affected, but no sense borrowing trouble. If we want the package manager out, we should do this with postprocessing. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubu

Re: Making linaro-nano smaller or Give Up Disk Space for Lent

2011-03-11 Thread Steve Langasek
ct contents as appropriate. The main thing this won't get us is building with -Os by default; I'm not sure how much that helps on armel, but I wouldn't expect it to offset the maintenance cost? -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Develop

Re: Making linaro-nano smaller or Give Up Disk Space for Lent

2011-03-10 Thread Steve Langasek
x27;s surprising just how > many things need it, and if it was your ethernet adapter it's really > nasty to fix. But I think I agree in generally it could be off by default. My thought here was USB rather than PCI. I think many of the boards have USB interfaces, and I think there&#

Re: purpose/description of various linaro snapshot images?

2011-03-01 Thread Steve Langasek
A readme redirect is a good idea, but I think there are some practical IS considerations that get in the way of doing this right now. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Develo

Re: [NOTES] 2/23 Linaro Developer Platform Weekly Status Meeting

2011-02-24 Thread Steve Langasek
rom my logs, the new action was: * tgall_foo to press MM WG to confirm they understand the implications for 11.05 release to target libjpeg8 for work I can send you a copy of my IRC logs if it would help, though it won't be in moin markup. -- Steve Langasek Give

Re: Thumb-2 kernel tree

2011-02-23 Thread Steve Langasek
We've been discussing just today on IRC where and how to enable this for wider testing in precompiled package form; if you're looking to get at thumb2-enabled source, that's definitely the tree to go to. If you run into any problems with it, please let us know! -- Steve Langasek

Re: /latest link now active on snapshots.linaro.org

2011-02-16 Thread Steve Langasek
stalling old linaro-m images, and if it doesn't that's something we should fix. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer

Announcing the Linaro porting jam

2011-02-15 Thread Steve Langasek
making the software in Ubuntu run better on ARM? Stop on by the #linaro channel on irc.linaro.org today! -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer

Re: Availability of kernel .config, Module.symvers and vmlinux in a package ?

2011-02-09 Thread Steve Langasek
and subsequently demoted. Was probably even me that did the demotion, shoot! Well, there'll be another kernel upload before too long, and hopefully this time it'll be left where it belongs instead of someone moving it back into main. :/ (And hopefully ddebs get better support for packages

Re: Availability of kernel .config, Module.symvers and vmlinux in a package ?

2011-02-08 Thread Steve Langasek
n enable access to these dbgsym packages by adding this line to /etc/apt/sources.list on their Linaro system: deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com natty main universe -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer

Re: /latest link now active on snapshots.linaro.org

2011-02-08 Thread Steve Langasek
k-efl/latest Thanks for making this happen! +1 to Loïc's comment that this should link directly to the latest build, not just the latest day. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can mov

Re: problem with linaro-media-create

2011-02-08 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Aneesh, On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 05:43:39PM +0530, Aneesh V wrote: > On Monday 07 February 2011 11:07 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: > >On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 03:59:06PM +0100, Alexander Sack wrote: > >>Since we only really support developer platform hosts with the tools > &g

Re: problem with linaro-media-create

2011-02-07 Thread Steve Langasek
esh, was this the case? What are you running on your desktop (distro, version)? Until we can work out how best to include static binaries in tarball releases, I think the fallback is to provide instructions on how to build the needed components from the qemu-linaro tarball releases. Cheers, -- Stev

Re: Booting linux-linaro-2.6.37 on Beagle Board

2011-02-01 Thread Steve Langasek
mdline to find out which root > filesystem to mount. This should fix your problem. I've poked around at this with Avik; the problem seems to be that the omap2plus_defconfig doesn't enable the driver for the MMC interface by default. Note that this root=UUID= line is set by linaro-media-create

Re: l-m-c console arguments

2011-01-31 Thread Steve Langasek
-console ttyO2 doesn't work since it is added > before the other consoles, so doesn't end up getting input. Shouldn't > it be the last console added in the list? Bug #710971, multiply-reported and actively being worked on via IRC. -- Steve Langasek Give

Re: tcl8.5 breaks dpkg-cross assumptions and multiarch

2011-01-31 Thread Steve Langasek
st, it's almost invariably because *something is looking for the information in that location*. So as a general policy, they should also be made available in a crossed package. Cheers, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer

Re: Booting linux-linaro-2.6.37 on Beagle Board

2011-01-31 Thread Steve Langasek
an initrd for the *wrong* kernel. You can either replace this initrd with one that matches the kernel, or you can fix the boot commandline to not look for an initrd. (The latter assumes you have all the drivers built in that are needed to get to the rootfs - which *should* be the case here.) --

Re: Linaro PPAs and backports / release cycles

2011-01-20 Thread Steve Langasek
verlay PPA, that should be easy. (After all, as a shining example, the toolchain package we want shipped with the 6-month release is the one integrated in Ubuntu and used to build all the binaries... not the latest monthly gcc-linaro release.) -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever lo

Re: Linaro PPAs and backports / release cycles

2011-01-20 Thread Steve Langasek
ersion number that would be used in the Ubuntu or Debian archives), I think this is reasonable. We can't generally guarantee any particular time frame for inclusion in natty after the WG component is released, so I think it's simpler to have a policy of "always PPA upload"

Re: New problem with BeagleBoard

2011-01-11 Thread Steve Langasek
ally show up as SCSI disks; e.g., /dev/sdb What is the output of this linaro-media-create command? -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu

Linaro Foundations Team Weekly Report (2010-12-02 to 2010-12-08)

2010-12-09 Thread Steve Langasek
successfully cross-buildable with patches applied. Actions: * npitre to write up more formal documentation of what our kernel tree is (and isn't): DONE * slangasek to review armel-cross-toolchain-base merge request: DONE -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Fr

Re: Linaro-Alpha-1:Unable to Create Boot Images

2010-12-07 Thread Steve Langasek
dent feedback (i.e., from someone other than me who uploaded it) to get the new version pushed into maverick as an Ubuntu Stable Release Update. So please test linaro-image-tools 0.3 and if it checks out, please add your results to <https://bugs.launchpad.net/linaro-image-tools

Re: New problem with BeagleBoard

2010-11-22 Thread Steve Langasek
ro-hwpacks/ which you might > want to use in the future. Better yet, I think, would be to use http://releases.linaro.org/platform/linaro-m/hwpacks/final/ :) -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and

Re: Call for testing: Linaro 10.11 FINAL

2010-11-09 Thread Steve Langasek
/linaro-hwpacks/ The 20101109 hardware pack for imx51 is known not to work out of the box; a new 20101110 hardware pack is being built now with an updated u-boot. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, an

Re: Pull request for OMAP3/4 fixes

2010-11-08 Thread Steve Langasek
this lands too late to include in the omap3 hardware packs for the 10.11 release. The cutoff for patches to the linaro linux kernel packages for 10.11 was 21 October. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on

Re: Fwd: Problems with BeagleBoard installation

2010-11-07 Thread Steve Langasek
Does Alt+F2 pull up a login prompt? I do recommend having a serial console hooked up somewhere for the beagles - that would sidestep bug #652221 in this case, and is generally useful for troubleshooting. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Develope

lin...@uds: dining opportunities out of the hotel

2010-10-25 Thread Steve Langasek
le&do=view&target=List+of+Restaurants.doc Bon appetit, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www

lin...@uds schedule available

2010-10-21 Thread Steve Langasek
sts into the system before the end of day on Friday. We are unlikely to be able to accomodate schedule change requests once the conference has started. See you all next week in Florida! -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer

Re: bzr on linaro

2010-10-20 Thread Steve Langasek
there! But git is not the only VCS used for large numbers of packages. > Anyway guess I will learn yet another SCM tool. The bazaar website has a quick-start tutorial ("Bazaar in five minutes") that may be useful to you: http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/mini-t

Re: bzr on linaro

2010-10-19 Thread Steve Langasek
e; that's why we have git.linaro.org. For new work in Linaro, such as our platform and infrastructure tools, bzr is the better choice because of the integration with Launchpad. Cheers, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer

Re: Problems with headless rootfs image lh build

2010-10-12 Thread Steve Langasek
bably fix this problem for you. > - OMAP build binding > The current config is binding to OMAP build without hwpack. What is > the plan to support hwpack build and other platforms like imx51 as far > as I'm concerned right now? I believe that's been addressed now :) Cheers

Linaro Foundations Team Weekly Report (2010-09-23 to 2010-09-29)

2010-10-12 Thread Steve Langasek
eview bootchart changes rather than redirecting to upstream, since Ubuntu and upstream are quite out of sync -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Deve

Re: Using Live Helper to Build Arm Images

2010-10-12 Thread Steve Langasek
g page? I see that the LiveHelper/Hacking page actually covers seed hacking as well. The live-helper hacking information looks to me like it should go under Source/ImageBuilding, indeed; where should we put the information about seeds? -- Steve Langasek Give me a l

Linaro Foundations Team Weekly Report (2010-09-30 to 2010-10-06)

2010-10-12 Thread Steve Langasek
about-linaro/ * slangasek to nudge Keybuk to review bootchart changes rather than redirecting to upstream, since Ubuntu and upstream are quite out of sync -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can mov

Linaro Foundations Team Weekly Report (2010-09-16 to 2010-09-22)

2010-10-12 Thread Steve Langasek
bConf 10 gobby notes publically * slangasek to nudge Keybuk to review bootchart changes rather than redirecting to upstream, since Ubuntu and upstream are quite out of sync Cheers, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on

Re: the linaro toolchain and older arm versions

2010-10-05 Thread Steve Langasek
o is targeting should require a pre-Thumb-2 U-Boot, so I'm very doubtful that the ongoing effort to maintain such a toolchain in Ubuntu is justified (unless we find that it becomes substantially easier with multiarch, I guess, but we're a ways away from that yet). Cheers, -- Steve

Re: Override dh_gencontrol architecture

2010-09-29 Thread Steve Langasek
_GNU_TYPE)) archs=$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE) endif in debian/rules - but that's not quite right, and I can't see at a glance where the $(arch) variable used in debian/rules is being set. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer

Re: Override dh_gencontrol architecture

2010-09-29 Thread Steve Langasek
gimg) -- -a$(arch) > export DH_OPTIONS="-a$(arch)" && dh_gencontrol -p$(pkgimg) Cross-building of Debian packages is meant to be handled by using the 'dpkg-buildpackage -a${target_arch}' interface. This sets the environment variables shown in the output of 'dpkg-ar

Re: New projects and copyright

2010-09-20 Thread Steve Langasek
80318 > Status: Active > Date of Incorporation: 05/03/2010 > Country of Origin: United Kingdom Thanks, I've updated the wiki page to list 'Linaro Limited' as the copyright holder. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian De

Re: Error (no boot device found) running qemu image

2010-09-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:34:15AM -0300, Guilherme Salgado wrote: > On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 09:22 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 05:03:55PM +0200, Loïc Minier wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010, Guilherme Salgado wrote: > > > > qemu: hardwa

Re: Error (no boot device found) running qemu image

2010-09-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:04:49AM +0200, Loïc Minier wrote: > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Ah, then please make sure you're using an up-to-date linaro-media-create; > > the handling of x-loader in the headless images has been changed as of > > yesterd

Re: State of cross compiler packages

2010-09-16 Thread Steve Langasek
ncern. And besides, while I am grateful for Matthias's help sponsoring these cross-compiler packages into the archive, it's not his responsibility to maintain them, it's ours - so if we have to step up our game to keep the packages usable in the face of gcc uploads becaus

Re: Error (no boot device found) running qemu image

2010-09-16 Thread Steve Langasek
u need a matching l-m-c that knows how to extract MLO from the right location in the tarball and install it to the vfat partition when generating the image. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, a

Re: Hardware pack questions

2010-09-14 Thread Steve Langasek
hwpacks out of ppas, getting the sources out of the PPA afterwards would be a problem; so best to keep them with the hwpack. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Develope

Re: Hardware pack questions

2010-09-13 Thread Steve Langasek
tributing. Are the hwpacks not going to follow this same release cycle? -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.d

Linaro Foundations Team Weekly Report (2010-09-02 to 2010-09-08)

2010-09-13 Thread Steve Langasek
linaro kernel package Cheers, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com

Re: New projects and copyright

2010-09-09 Thread Steve Langasek
ge to remove the discussion of copyright "flowing" which I think is unnecessarily confusing. What we care about is who the copyright holder is, not so much the process by which it gets there. :) Still listing this as 'Linaro' as the copyright holder; I don't know if

Re: Packaging problems with armel-cross-toolchain-base

2010-08-31 Thread Steve Langasek
the .deb, right? I would expect dpkg-gencontrol to ignore any ($version) in the source debian/control. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer

Re: Linaro and ARMv5

2010-08-26 Thread Steve Langasek
mprovement to justify the effort and the loss of compatibility with some widely-deployed v4t developer kit. But as long as the goal is to have something that can /run/ on v5 hw (as opposed to something that runs /optimally/ on v5 hw), Debian fits the bill. -- Steve Langasek Give me

Re: Adding packages to image seeds

2010-08-09 Thread Steve Langasek
default in Ubuntu, they're in universe no less) and don't belong on a general-purpose image. Cheers, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer

Re: linux-linaro kernel package available

2010-08-03 Thread Steve Langasek
rate branches for > each? For me the only reason that could tip us in favor of separate source packages for a single kernel tree is the serialized build and long build time. Cheers, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer

Re: [PATCH 0/2] Make PowerTOP generic

2010-08-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 03:49:56PM -0400, Loïc Minier wrote: > On Mon, Aug 02, 2010, Steve Langasek wrote: > > For build environment correctness, it is definitely preferred to avoid > > following recommends at installation. > Yes, but xdeb is more an user frontend, and that

Re: [PATCH 0/2] Make PowerTOP generic

2010-08-02 Thread Steve Langasek
7;apt-rdepends grep', But it does correctly show up in 'apt-cache showsrc grep | grep Build-Depends'. (grepgrep? grepgrep!) And also in the Suggests: field of grep. grep dynamically loads libpcre when invoked with the '-P' option; it's not an ELF library dependency in or

Re: [PATCH 0/2] Make PowerTOP generic

2010-08-02 Thread Steve Langasek
(Amit did >it I think!) For build environment correctness, it is definitely preferred to avoid following recommends at installation. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. U

Re: [Linaro-dev] Maverick cross toolchain

2010-07-31 Thread Steve Langasek
guess. Better metadata is on the way, via multiarch. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec Perhaps it would be beneficial to begin annotating some of these Multi-Arch: foreign packages so that dpkg-cross can make use of that information, independently of dpkg implementing support for co-instal