ho cannot afford $15 chicken for example. I can't wait to see the prices in
the Bleak midwinter... Will we still be discussing this? Jean Palmer
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From: Leslie Turek
To: Mary Crowe
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Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 11:27 am
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I think many of us would like to see sustainable agriculture and humane
treatment of food animals at prices affordable to all. At the moment this is
not possible. I think it’s important that some food producers are trying to
develop new methods, and it’s great that those who can afford it are
Well said Sara ! Exactly what I was thinking.
Mary Crowe
On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 11:25 PM Sara Mattes wrote:
> Cheryl,
> You should know that Codman, Drumlin, the Food Project and others in
> Lincoln are bringing food to families in need, both in Linocln and beyond.
> And those that can
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>> I grew up in Lincoln, and still have a
Cheryl,
You should know that Codman, Drumlin, the Food Project and others in Lincoln
are bringing food to families in need, both in Linocln and beyond.
And those that can afford CCF prices also are asked to contribute to the
Lincoln Food Pantry.
Significant revenues are generated.
It is
The basic difference, for me, is that I can walk down the road and see Codman
chicken conditions for myself, no audit required. But for consumers in other
communities it’s not so easy. If Costco is a trustworthy agent for them, that’s
a good thing. But we could all eat less meat.
On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 8:18 PM cob via Lincoln
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>
> I grew up in Lincoln, and still have a property there.. I'm stunned and
> not, by the the comments on this thread, how privilege you are,
> questioning a cucumber to chicken prices, organic or not. My dad invested
> and had chickens on
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I grew up in Lincoln, and still have a property there.. I'm stunned and not,
by the the comments on this thread, how privilege you
thank you Cheryl for your honesty! agree. Jean Palmer
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I grew up
I grew up in Lincoln, and still have a property there.. I'm stunned and not,
by the the comments on this thread, how privilege you are, questioning a
cucumber to chicken prices, organic or not. My dad invested and had chickens on
Codman farm, 4 decades ago. He did not have the stomach to
If on checks the labels and notes who is the producer, and then looks at
websites, it is usually not hard to figure out.
A casual Google search can show you images of organic “factory” farms.
Here is an article touting the qualities of just such a farm.
Judge for yourself.
And as for the
You can purchase what you want where you want. However, people don't
realize that "organic" and "humane" are not the same thing. That's all.
On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 3:42 PM V Saleme wrote:
> OK, seeking specificity to your’ assurances such that I can make an
> informed decision on where I
There isn't currently any comparable chicken at grocery stores (maybe at
deborahs?) - organic and pasture raised are two totally different labels
and two totally different meanings. I have not seen true pasture raised
chickens at Whole Foods for at least a year - and I check.
You cannot compare
OK, seeking specificity to your’ assurances such that I can make an
informed decision on where I purchase, cheers and thank you!
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On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 3:36 PM Sasha Golden wrote:
> I can assure you that these are factory-farmed. You want to support an
> industry that barely allows chickens
I can assure you that these are factory-farmed. You want to support an
industry that barely allows chickens to move before they die so you can
save a couple of bucks? Go ahead.
On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 1:01 PM AWH wrote:
> For some cost comparisons, here are some prices for organic boneless
>
Sure it does, on Costco's site where this was gleaned from.
On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 10:53 AM Leslie Turek
wrote:
> That policy doesn't actually state what the standards are. If you can
> access the NYT, this article gives a different picture.
>
>
Ah, the non-vegans' dilemmas. Choose cruelty-free.
On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 1:01 PM AWH wrote:
> For some cost comparisons, here are some prices for organic boneless
> chicken breasts:
> Whole Foods 365 -
> Tray $7.99
> Value pack $6.99
> Lincoln Donelans Bell and Evans -
> Tray $12.99
>
> What
Tom and Ruth Anne Real choose DrumlinCheck out the Drumlin Farmers Market
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For some cost comparisons, here are some prices for organic boneless chicken
breasts:
Whole Foods 365 -
Tray $7.99
Value pack $6.99
Lincoln Donelans Bell and Evans -
Tray $12.99
What are the actual prices for Codman chicken?
> On Jul 14, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Joan Kimball wrote:
>
>
> Yes, but
Higher prices (with higher quality/natural methods) at Codman, might be an
issue if it was, or was attempting to be, the sole or main supplier of food
to the town. It's not, it's just an option - as is Donelan's, Market
Basket, Costco, Stop and Shop, etc.
If we want to compare prices, a fairer
I appreciate this. Thank you. Anne
On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 10:39 AM Sara Mattes wrote:
> You might point out to your sister that Lincoln has been on the fore in
> building affordable housing and that, if my memory is correct, 14% of our
> housing is certified “affordable,” - I trust others can
That policy doesn't actually state what the standards are. If you can
access the NYT, this article gives a different picture.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/06/opinion/sunday/costco-chicken-animal-welfare.html
A few excerpts:
Garcés wants Costco to sign up for the “Better Chicken Commitment,”
You might point out to your sister that Lincoln has been on the fore in
building affordable housing and that, if my memory is correct, 14% of our
housing is certified “affordable,” - I trust others can correct that number.
Regardless, we have led the way.
And, our investment in land, both as
The book _The Dorito Effect_
(https://www.markschatzker.com/doritoeffect-home-page/) discusses the
change in chicken farming after WW2 when the industry decided to
optimize maximum pounds of meat per pound of feed in the shortest
possible time. American consumers are impressed by size, by pounds
I do understand that there are all sorts of good reasons why Codman charges
so much. I'm not quarreling with that line of reason. I just think it is
sad that Lincoln has a reputation for being an expensive place.
On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 9:45 AM wayne vetrone wrote:
> This is an interesting
Costco's animal welfare policy. How does this compare? Anything
demonstrably better?
POULTRY
- Costco requires animal welfare audits at slaughter in accordance with
the National Chicken Council (NCC) Recommended Animal Handling Guidelines.
- Costco also audits hatchery and grow‐out
This is an interesting thread because the cost and labor structure at
Codman is very different from a typical retailer or privately owned farm.
On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 9:24 AM Joan Kimball wrote:
> Yes, but Whole Foods can price lower because of quantity. You can see it
> in food and flower
not Whole Foods—Amazon.
Whole Foods has become a generic, unimaginative version of Bread and Circus.
I remember the first health food store in nyc city —spring street in
soho—creative, experimental, knowledgeable, purposeful, a little more
expensive—somewhat like Codman…
my two cents
melinda
Yes, but Whole Foods can price lower because of quantity. You can see it in
food and flower prices. They are a national chain. Codman and local
farmers have locally grown food. Farm staff need to be paid fairly for
this labor intensive food. And so we can choose, as Sara says.
On Wed, Jul
Stepping back from the commentary for a moment: my sister was up visiting
me in Lincoln recently, and I took her by Codman Farms. She looked at the
pricing, and was actually pretty shocked. The prices were so much higher
than even the most expensive of the local markets (Whole Foods) for
Out of curiosity, I looked at images of chicken for sale at butcher shops
in the early 40s (pre-factory farmed chicken). Then I compared 1940 prices
to current prices...and discovered that Codman Farm chicken is almost
exactly the same price as chicken was in the 1940s.
Chicken was once Sunday
Someone please poke holes at Costco organic chicken? Been buying there,
happy to divert to a better alternative if it exists.
Thanks.
On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 8:44 AM Lincoln Historical Society <
lincolnmahistoricalsoci...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Given all Adam has described, yes indeed!
>
> You
Given all Adam has described, yes indeed!
You have many choices - meat and chicken produced at large, factory farms, will
of course be cheaper.
Any meat/chicken sold through chain stores will be cheaper.
You have that choice -it is locally available at Donelans, Market Basket,
Costco.
It is
AdamWhat about the frozen chicken and beef...reasonable?
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