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On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 04:55:15PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I upgraded to SuSE 8 shortly after installing version 7 and I was told that
I had to do a new install to version 8. I don't care if that was/is true,
but can someone tell me if there is an upgrade migration path from version
8
Hi,
Is it possible to create the initial file system on disk instead of CD-ROM or TAPE?
If yes, how?
TIA
Gadi
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Hello,
If you mean IPL then definitely yes.
However before getting into IPL through a DASD, one has to remember that
although we can do IPL from a DASD, the device would not be usable in
LINUX later. One has to run the command DASDFMT to get the disk
accessible as a partition and after that
Thanx, but where can I find an example of this job?
Gadi
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From: Maneesh Menon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 11:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Creating initial file system on disk
Hello,
If you mean IPL then definitely yes.
Refer the book:
http://publib-b.boulder.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/RedbookAbstracts/sg246264.h
tml
Regards,
Maneesh
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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 3:57 PM
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Subject: Re:
On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 01:23:20PM -0500, Barber, Rick wrote:
Has anyone successfully installed SLES9 for S/390 (31-bit) in an LPAR
(no VM)?
We are trying, but having the following problem.
Install begins normally - We created an IPL tape from the
distribution CD.
IPL'ed
Thanx, I found it.
Gadi
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From: Maneesh Menon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 11:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Creating initial file system on disk
Refer the book:
If you have VM already in place, doesn't it have tools to manage the
OSA/OSA2?
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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Noll, Ralph
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 10:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003
I
Different machine.. Linux only
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From: Ward, Garry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 7:28 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003
If you have VM already in place, doesn't it have tools to
manage the
Ok; all you need for VSE is going to be the minimum DOSRES/SYSWK1
install.
Do you have access to 3270s for the console and single non-sna term for
CICS/ICCF?
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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Noll, Ralph
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:51
No... Just integrated console
Am in the process of installing and it wants
At least 1 local 3270 term.
Don't have one... What can I enter to bypass??
Ralph
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From: Ward, Garry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 7:55 AM
To: [EMAIL
That sounds like the part that is configuring VTAM and CICS for local
terminal support. You'll need a local terminal for telnet access, so
that you can get in to ICCF to use OSA/SF.
On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 08:23, Noll, Ralph wrote:
No... Just integrated console
Am in the process of installing
How do I get that???
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From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003
That sounds like the part that is configuring VTAM and CICS
for local terminal
memory is failing; there was a way to attach the PC service element to
the MP2000's as emulated terminals -- remember doing that several years
ago but I can't remember how it worked. It wasn't the same as IC, used
an OS/2 terminal emulation. I can't remember how.
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From:
The MP3K can do that, I wasn't aware that the MP2K could. In either
event the IOCP would need to be set up to use the emulated channel and
devices.
On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 08:39, Ward, Garry wrote:
memory is failing; there was a way to attach the PC service element to
the MP2000's as emulated
You'll some way to get jobs to and from the system, so that the card can
be configured. The configuration member is in a VSE library and the
jobs to start OSA/SF and communicate with the card are in ICCF.
If you have a tape drive on the MP2K, you can get jobs to and from it
via POWER offload (a
This is running on an 9672-R36. LPAR is 288 Meg.
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From: Ihno Krumreich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 4:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SLES9
On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 01:23:20PM -0500, Barber, Rick wrote:
Has anyone
Configuring it this way is about the dumbest thing I can remember..
Going to be a pain in the rear
Going to have to install VSE just to change ip of the osa card..
Can I install vse under vm to real dasd and then ipl the mp2000 from
that???
Umm, not to step on the fun here, but VM and
Please see the What's New page at:
http://www10.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/linux390/whatsnew.shtml
for a change summary of the 2004-08-31 additions and changes to the
Linux for zSeries and S/390 developerWorks Web pages.
April 2004 stream:
- kernel 2.6.5: Kernel patch with
Well both machines have their own device addresses, and
unique IP for their
hipersocket address. Are we doing that wrong?
No, that's right. I'm thinking that WAS is parsing the interface
structure, and being cranky about not having full information.
I set up a test scenario like the setup you
Our company is looking at obtaining servers for a new central SAS
environment (replacing aging and scattered older servers).
Can SAS run under linux on the mainframe and if so does it perform well?
Our local SAS rep says there is no SAS product for linux/390 but I had
thought some people are in
There was a post last July where a development version of SAS V9 for
Linux for zSeries was being used.
There doesn't seem to be anything much newer that is relevant.
On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 10:06, Smith, Ann (ISD, IT) wrote:
Our company is looking at obtaining servers for a new central SAS
The many problems associated with having multiple interfaces
and hence ip
addresses associated with a given host can be overcome by the
use of a VIPA
(and Source VIPA).
Very good point. Introduces some other issues, but fixes a lot of other
stuff.
The though of putting *all* IP addresses
We had it - beta. Worked great. Then they decided not to do it.
Marcy Cortes
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Did you see any difference if the order of the interface in
/etc/chandev.conf (which then changes /proc/qeth) had anythign to do with
whether or not the node could be federated?
David Boyes
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By 'they' do you mean SAS or just your company decided not to do it?
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From: Marcy Cortes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 11:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SAS - Is linux/390 an option?
We had it - beta. Worked great. Then they
Did you see any difference if the order of the interface in
/etc/chandev.conf (which then changes /proc/qeth) had
anythign to do with
whether or not the node could be federated?
I tried a couple different combinations (HSI first, then QDIO first). So
long as all the interfaces were resolvable
SAS - sorry I was so unclear!
Marcy Cortes
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We are preparing to move our TSM server off z/OS. We would
not be doing
this if we just needed to pay for more standard engine
processors to keep
TSM where it is. Most of the non-IBM software products we
have running under
z/OS have license charges based on the total processor
capacity
On Thursday, 09/09/2004 at 08:29 EST, Noll, Ralph
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How do I get that???
If you don't have OSA/SF available, go to your HMC and work your way to
CPC Operational Customization and then to OSA Advanced Facilities (I think
it is a Single-object operation). Once there, use
I had this happen quite a while ago and thought I had written notes on it.
Alas, I can't find them.
I can't get linux to recognize a new disk that I've add. Lets call it
dasdc I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the volume label or
something like that.
It also seems that it has to be
Thanks!
Talking to our SAS rep, I get the impression SAS doesn't think there's much
of a market for it.
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From: Marcy Cortes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 1:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SAS - Is linux/390 an option?
SAS -
did you add the virtual address dynamically?
echo add device range=0123 | /proc/dasd/devices
then you can modify zipl.conf to add it permanently
David
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From: Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Steve Gentry
Sent: Thu 9/9/2004 2:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: dasd
That's not the problem, it is already there. Linux doesn't know what to
do with it cause it doesn't have the correct label format.
Instead of thinking its an eckd as in dasd[eckd] it comes back with
dasd[diag]
David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I figured it out. I needed mknod, but wasn't using the correct syntax for
the command.
Steve
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From the MXG listserv today-
I suggest we let Erik know companies ARE interested in a SAS for linux/390
AND that they come up with a fair pricing scheme (i.e., prices based only on
the IFL engines where linux/390 runs).
I just spoke to Erik Burgdorf , SAS Marketing Strategy who is trying to get
If SAS thinks there is not a market on Linux, guess they are in for a real
shocker
As for SAS going up in price on M/F's?? well that is why so many shops are
looking at Linux or just dumping the product's..re-evaluating it's REAL
worth..and what alternatives there are out there...
We moved to SAS on LINUX on Intel running Suse 9.0. Runs like a champ,
with a Gb connection the SMF downloads quickly. The Intel version was
about 75% less expensive than the mainframe version. Since SAS is such
a CPU consumer, it doesn't seem like it is a very good candidate for
mainframe
I don't think there is either. SAS is a CPU hog. It make more sense to run it on
Linux/Intel accessing NFS mounted data.
..thanks
Smith, Ann (ISD, IT) wrote:
Thanks!
Talking to our SAS rep, I get the impression SAS doesn't think there's much
of a market for it.
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Dave,
By 'mainframe version' do you mean linux/390, VM or MVS?
Our MVS costs are outrageous, VM is more reasonable and we were hoping
linux/390 would be even better.
We don't run SAS/GRAPH any more. Mainly just BASE FSP and STAT. Some ACCESS
and SHARE. The workloads we are looking at moving really
I will be out of the office starting 09/10/2004 and will not return until
09/20/2004.
If this is urgent please contact Mary Wallace at -732-424-7294 or email
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