Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-06 Thread Eddie Chen
mand until you know which USER DIRECT * or USER BACKUP is being use. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of van Sleeuwen, Berry Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 9:39 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after edit

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-05 Thread Shane
Thanks Alan and Berry and everyone else who responded. Alan this wasn't my intent. When I said "immediately" I meant "immediately upon receiving the (guest) IPL interrupt". And I agree with Berry - dynamic changes can (and should) be carried forward. Changes to what I called the z/VM environment -

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-05 Thread van Sleeuwen, Berry
ofile exec for some of the guests. Regards, Berry. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Koray Kusat Sent: zaterdag 6 november 2010 0:01 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct Hi Berry, The o

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-05 Thread Koray Kusat
zVM guy has renamed it to DIRECT USER.) > > Regards, Berry. > > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of > koray > Sent: vrijdag 5 november 2010 20:24 > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPG

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-05 Thread van Sleeuwen, Berry
-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of koray Sent: vrijdag 5 november 2010 20:24 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct Hi Eddie, thanks for the tip! yes i did ipl from minidisk 102, and /boot is on Minidisk as well. But /dev/dasda1 seems as a part

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-05 Thread koray
On 05.11.2010 22:16, Mark Post wrote: -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of koray Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 9:24 AM Subject: Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct -snip- - I ipled from SLES11 DVD and choosed

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-05 Thread koray
see if the "/boot" is still on that partition. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of koray Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 9:24 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user dir

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-05 Thread Mark Post
> -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of koray > Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 9:24 AM > Subject: Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct > -snip- > - I ipled from SLES11 DVD and choosed boot installe

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-05 Thread Eddie Chen
m: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of koray Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 9:24 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct Hi again to all, after doing lots of research i found the problem is somewhere in linux, let me e

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-05 Thread Sam Bass
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 10:36 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct Think of it this way: The directory definition of a guest are the "specs" used to construct its virtual machine when it logs on. Re-iplling a guest without l

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-05 Thread Michael Harding
System Support Linux on 390 Port wrote on 11/04/2010 07:51:41 PM: > From: Shane > To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu > Date: 11/04/2010 07:52 PM > Subject: Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct > Sent by: Linux on 390 Port > > Alan, for those of us that stumbled

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-05 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 11/05/2010 at 10:50 EDT, Clovis Pereira wrote: > I think this model was planned for CMS (or equivalent) users, not for the > new "plug and play" systems, like zVM itself and Linux. > Example: when we attach a dasd to Linux or second level zVM, they recognize > the new resource and puts

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-05 Thread Clovis Pereira
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Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-05 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 11/05/2010 at 12:59 EDT, Shane wrote: > We are talking about a hipervisor running (nominally) directly on the > hardware - not a user-space application like VBox. > In my naivety I would expect z/VM to be *very* aware of an interrupt > for a guest IPL. If there are changes in the (z/VM)

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-05 Thread koray
Hi again to all, after doing lots of research i found the problem is somewhere in linux, let me explain. - I checked all dasds, there were no offline or unattached. - No overlap in diskmap file. - I compared direct user file with the old backup and i saw there is no change with disk mappings. -

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-05 Thread martin roby
I have seen this happen as well; when trying to boot from san disks. Do you have your root filesystem on a san disk? Can you post your user direct entry for a user that fails? When you logged all the way out of your Linux guests you reset that user. A lot of different things could have happened at

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-05 Thread Anthony Thompson
Behalf Of van Sleeuwen, Berry Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 8:02 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct Hi Anthony, I think the confusion is the word IPL. When we mention "IPL" we mean executing the command IPL *OR* logon a ma

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-05 Thread van Sleeuwen, Berry
n 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony Thompson Sent: vrijdag 5 november 2010 10:44 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct Excuse me? If you re-IPL a virtual machine surely it resets its environment according to USER

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-05 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Anthony Thompson wrote: > Excuse me? > > If you re-IPL a virtual machine surely it resets its environment according to > USER DIRECT? A virtual subset of the existing IOCDS, with the virtual > addresses and user(sic)-defined storage? Incorrect. An IPL of the vir

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-05 Thread Anthony Thompson
explaining any confusion here, Ant. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of van Sleeuwen, Berry Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 6:49 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct Shane,

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-05 Thread van Sleeuwen, Berry
ault. I do not want to have that reset when I IPL the machine. Regards, Berry. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Shane Sent: vrijdag 5 november 2010 5:58 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after ed

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-05 Thread van Sleeuwen, Berry
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: vrijdag 5 november 2010 1:57 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct > Actually you didn't need to IPL VM. Once you p

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-05 Thread Fernández Domingo , José María
: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct Hello all, We have 14 Sles Guests running on Z/VM 5.4. We edited the user direct file and changed the memory settings of Linux guests.For example; linux001 - 2048M 4096M linux002 - 2048M 4096M has changed to linux001 - 3072M 6144M linux002 - 1024M

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-04 Thread Shane
We are talking about a hipervisor running (nominally) directly on the hardware - not a user-space application like VBox. In my naivety I would expect z/VM to be *very* aware of an interrupt for a guest IPL. If there are changes in the (z/VM) environment why wouldn't they resolved immediately at tha

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-04 Thread Scott Rohling
An IPL of an OS in a virtual guest is not the same as 'destroying and recreating' the virtual environment the OS is running in. If you use a desktop virtualization solution (I use VirtualBox) -- it's much the same - there are certain changes to the virtual machine definition that require you to sto

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-04 Thread Eddie Chen
likely wrong user direct. - Original Message - From: koray [mailto:nixst...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 06:25 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct Hi Pieter, i logged in as MAINT user and run "x direct u

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-04 Thread Shane
Alan, for those of us that stumbled from the real (FSVO "real") world into the rabbit hole that is z/VM, are admonishments such as this inscribed in stone anywhere ?. Where I came from IPL clears up everything - this is not something I would have inherently expected. I can (now) see the logic, but

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-04 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 11/04/2010 at 07:56 EDT, Berry van Sleeuwen wrote: > Are you even running DIRMAINT? I guess not, since you use a directory on > MAINT. But if you are then it could be your directory is now replaced > with an old (probably incorrect) version. > > Actually you didn't need to IPL VM. Onc

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-04 Thread David Kreuter
Hi - do a Q SET. If you are in MACH XC do SET MACH ESA and attempt the IPL again. If you set the storage sizes back to the original in the USER DIRECT what results do you get? David Original Message Subject: Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct From

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-04 Thread Berry van Sleeuwen
;> After you made the changes I assume you also manually ran DIRECTXA >> against it? If not your changes are not active and you can simply >> logoff/logon you guest to get back to the old config. >> >> best regards, >> Pieter Harder >> >> ______

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-04 Thread koray
simply logoff/logon you guest to get back to the old config. best regards, Pieter Harder Van: Linux on 390 Port [linux-...@vm.marist.edu] namens koray [nixst...@gmail.com] Verzonden: donderdag 4 november 2010 20:31 Aan: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Onderwerp: H

Re: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-04 Thread Harder, Pieter
gards, Pieter Harder Van: Linux on 390 Port [linux-...@vm.marist.edu] namens koray [nixst...@gmail.com] Verzonden: donderdag 4 november 2010 20:31 Aan: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Onderwerp: HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct Hello all, We ha

HCPGIR450W and HCPGIR453W after editing user direct

2010-11-04 Thread koray
Hello all, We have 14 Sles Guests running on Z/VM 5.4. We edited the user direct file and changed the memory settings of Linux guests.For example; linux001 - 2048M 4096M linux002 - 2048M 4096M has changed to linux001 - 3072M 6144M linux002 - 1024M 2048M Now, i cant ipl my guest's. When i try to