Re: NSS not possible in SLES 12

2019-09-06 Thread Paul Flint
Port To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: NSS not possible in SLES 12 ++1 You guys are going backwards DJ --- DAVID JONES | MANAGING DIRECTOR FOR ZSYSTEMS SERVICES | z/VM, Linux, and Cloud 703.237.7370 (Office) | 281.578.7544 (CELL) INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY COMPANY On 09.04.2019 12:03 PM

Re: NSS not possible in SLES 12

2019-09-05 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 09/05/2019 at 06:35 GMT, Scott Rohling wrote: > I think the implications extend beyond NSS though... is SLES going to > divorce itself from embedded systems in general? Are they all in on self > patching kernels and that's that? Or can it simply be an option to > exploit when

Re: NSS not possible in SLES 12

2019-09-05 Thread Mark Post
On 9/5/19 2:35 PM, Scott Rohling wrote: > I think the implications extend beyond NSS though... is SLES going to > divorce itself from embedded systems in general? Are they all in on self > patching kernels and that's that? Or can it simply be an option to > exploit when desirable? I don't se

Re: NSS not possible in SLES 12

2019-09-05 Thread Scott Rohling
I think the implications extend beyond NSS though... is SLES going to divorce itself from embedded systems in general? Are they all in on self patching kernels and that's that? Or can it simply be an option to exploit when desirable? Scott Rohling On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 9:57 AM Alan Altmark

Re: NSS not possible in SLES 12

2019-09-05 Thread Marcy Cortes
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 9:51 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] NSS not possible in SLES 12 On Wednesday, 09/04/2019 at 08:16 GMT, Dave Jones wrote: > ++1 > You guys are going backwards I haven't seen much traction with the NSS in the field. Within an org

Re: NSS not possible in SLES 12

2019-09-05 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 09/04/2019 at 08:16 GMT, Dave Jones wrote: > ++1 > You guys are going backwards I haven't seen much traction with the NSS in the field. Within an organization, Linux servers are maintained in a common way across platforms, with different servers on different schedules. NSS

Re: NSS not possible in SLES 12

2019-09-05 Thread David Boyes
I’m really curious how the embedded systems folks took this latest “improvement”. By this argument, Intel and ARM systems running from EPROM are no longer viable, or at least will require a forklift upgrade - are they expecting to always copy the entire kernel into RAM and allow it to modify i

Re: NSS not possible in SLES 12

2019-09-05 Thread Christian Borntraeger
On 04.09.19 21:03, Rick Troth wrote: > On 9/4/19 11:39 AM, Christian Borntraeger wrote: >> On 04.09.19 16:41, Scott Rohling wrote: >>> Let's start with who or what said it wasn't possible ? >> [...] Just to be sure, by "nss" I meant Named Saved System. >> [...] > what is the reason

Re: NSS not possible in SLES 12

2019-09-04 Thread Hamilton, Robert
t On Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 3:31 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [EXT] Re: NSS not possible in SLES 12 [Actual Sender is owner-linux-...@vm.marist.edu] ++1 You guys are going backwards DJ --- DAVID JONES | MANAGING DIRECTOR FOR ZSYSTEMS SERVICES | z/

Re: NSS not possible in SLES 12

2019-09-04 Thread Dave Jones
++1 You guys are going backwards DJ --- DAVID JONES | MANAGING DIRECTOR FOR ZSYSTEMS SERVICES | z/VM, Linux, and Cloud 703.237.7370 (Office) | 281.578.7544 (CELL) INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY COMPANY On 09.04.2019 12:03 PM, Rick Troth wrote: On 9/4/19 11:39 AM, Christian Borntraeger wrote: On 0

Re: NSS not possible in SLES 12

2019-09-04 Thread Rick Troth
On 9/4/19 11:39 AM, Christian Borntraeger wrote: > On 04.09.19 16:41, Scott Rohling wrote: >> Let's start with who or what said it wasn't possible ? > [...] >>> Just to be sure, by "nss" I meant Named Saved System. > [...] what is the reason for nss not being possible with SLES from ve

Re: NSS not possible in SLES 12

2019-09-04 Thread Christian Borntraeger
On 04.09.19 16:41, Scott Rohling wrote: > Let's start with who or what said it wasn't possible ? [...] >> Just to be sure, by "nss" I meant Named Saved System. [...] >>> what is the reason for nss not being possible with SLES from version 12? [...] The Linux kernel now makes use of self-pa

Re: NSS not possible in SLES 12

2019-09-04 Thread Andras Beke
itation may be. Regards, András BEKE From: Scott Rohling To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 04/09/2019 16:42 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: NSS not possible in SLES 12 Sent by:Linux on 390 Port Let's start with who or what said it wasn't possible ? In my ex

Re: NSS not possible in SLES 12

2019-09-04 Thread Scott Rohling
Let's start with who or what said it wasn't possible ? In my experience - most things are possible ... though there maybe roadblocks. Scott Rohling On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 5:51 AM Andras Beke wrote: > Just to be sure, by "nss" I meant Named Saved System. > > Regards, > > András BEKE >

Re: NSS not possible in SLES 12

2019-09-04 Thread Andras Beke
Just to be sure, by "nss" I meant Named Saved System. Regards, András BEKE > Dear List, > > apologies if I'm asking something evident, the reason being I'm a newbie > both on the list and in the speciality, but does any of you happen to know > what is the reason for nss not being possible with

NSS not possible in SLES 12

2019-09-04 Thread Andras Beke
Dear List, apologies if I'm asking something evident, the reason being I'm a newbie both on the list and in the speciality, but does any of you happen to know what is the reason for nss not being possible with SLES from version 12? Thank you in advance. Regards, András BEKE ---