Quoth Tzafrir Cohen on Wed, Mar 05, 2003:
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Vadim Vygonets wrote:
Seen it. Not so convenient, and *really* doesn't belong
together. Nor do I see the point of having a mailer inside your
browser.
This is a work around a *problem* of the system/UI.
I'm not saying that
Quoth Oleg Goldshmidt on Wed, Mar 05, 2003:
Beni Cherniavsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
rsh (1) - remote shell
Indeed, that's what linux man page says. Historically though (and
probably today on some platforms) rsh is/was restricted, with
remote shell named remsh.
On SysV. Remote shell
On 2003-03-07, Ira Abramov wrote:
Quoting Beni Cherniavsky, from the post of Fri, 07 Mar:
all very nice and valid points, but why would you want to look at a
spreadsheet as a programming language, when it was never meant to be one
or replace it?
Well, because my mother has to use
On 2003-03-06, Ira Abramov wrote:
Quoting Beni Cherniavsky, from the post of Wed, 05 Mar:
On 2003-03-05, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
For complex things, I usually find complex, sophisticated spreadsheets
much less maintainable than real programs (or scripts). I have heard
horror
Quoting Dan Kenigsberg, from the post of Tue, 04 Mar:
This reminds me of an ancient story about MS acquiring the English
language. (http://www.stokely.com/lighter.side/ms.english.html for
once)
well, the BSA's bot is not the only busy one... and apperently ZX
Spectrum games are illegal to
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 05:50:37PM +0200, Alon Weinstein wrote:
Care to list the alternative options? I can guess Lyx for document creation,
GIMP for image manipulation, but that's where my list ends. What are the
options to perform other common tasks:
-- Email Organizer (an only-email
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Beni Cherniavsky wrote:
On 2003-03-05, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
For complex things, I usually find complex, sophisticated spreadsheets
much less maintainable than real programs (or scripts). I have heard
horror stories about thousands lines of macros that
On 2003-03-06, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Beni Cherniavsky wrote:
* Adresses are numerical (2D is irrelevant). That's about the first
thing smart programmers stopped to do (e.g. with assemblers; stupid
ones continued it surprisingly long, e.g. BASIC until late).
Quite off-topic for this list, so...
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Beni Cherniavsky wrote:
On 2003-03-06, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Beni Cherniavsky wrote:
* spreadsheets (following lotus 1-2-3 ?) provide cell aliases which are
names to specific cells/blocks . In other words:
Quoting Muli Ben-Yehuda, from the post of Tue, 04 Mar:
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 04:14:07PM +0200, Eli Billauer wrote:
Because if you open KWord, you can't take it as anything else but a
clone of MS-Word. It looks the same, it feels the same, and it has a
So... don't open KWord! I don't
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED], from the post of Tue, 04 Mar:
In kde3.2 kmail and korganizer will be one software. Again I dont like
this, and I like things as thry are now. If I want to look at my
meetings I will not open my mail progaram.
Outlook's consept is very nice, it sees itself as the
On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 20:41, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Vadim Vygonets wrote:
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, Mar 04, 2003:
You remind me what I knew about using Windows before I arrived to my
current workplace. Outlook is not just a mail client but a (convenient!
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED], from the post of Thu, 06 Mar:
cat file [|possible pipe] | lpr
I find their interface today more convenient to some tasks than the
ASCII-alone world of pipes and command line).
UNIX command line tools are great for some jobs, but the computer world
haven't
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 19:51, Ira Abramov wrote:
the point is, the right tool for the right job. I agree plugins are
great, and I agree the CLI pipeline is not too smart in many cases to
serve all the needs, but forking to a new process with several file
descriptors (not just the one) is a
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 20:41, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Vadim Vygonets wrote:
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, Mar 04, 2003:
You remind me what I knew about using Windows before I arrived to my
current workplace. Outlook is
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 07:25:49PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 20:41, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Vadim Vygonets wrote:
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, Mar 04, 2003:
You remind me what I knew about using Windows before I arrived to my
current
On 2003-03-05, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
Beni Cherniavsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Isn't rsh with an empty password a good replacement for Outlook? :-(
No. The r in rsh stands for restricted...
rsh (1) - remote shell
The one that is a big security hole even with a password...
--
Beni
On 2003-03-05, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
For complex things, I usually find complex, sophisticated spreadsheets
much less maintainable than real programs (or scripts). I have heard
horror stories about thousands lines of macros that organizations
depend on and noone knows what's inside them.
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Vadim Vygonets wrote:
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, Mar 04, 2003:
You remind me what I knew about using Windows before I arrived to my
current workplace. Outlook is not just a mail client but a (convenient!
IMHO) address book + calendar + notes + mail organizer. You
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, Mar 04, 2003:
You remind me what I knew about using Windows before I arrived to my
current workplace. Outlook is not just a mail client but a (convenient!
IMHO) address book + calendar + notes + mail organizer. You can say they
don't belong together but the
On 2003-03-05, Arie Folger wrote:
On Wednesday 05 March 2003 15:59, Beni Cherniavsky wrote:
- You can't write a loop that will execute the same code many times.
This too existed in Babbage's engine but algorithms were written
expecting such an ability long before, for example
From RISKS Digest:
:)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:57:38 -0600 (CST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: BSA Accuses OpenOffice ftp sites of piracy
It seems that some FTP sites that host OpenOffice are getting cease and
desist e-mail from the BSA about their purported piracy of MS Office.
Maybe
I think this is quite sad. Not the BSA accusations, but the fact that
they are right.
Because if you open KWord, you can't take it as anything else but a
clone of MS-Word. It looks the same, it feels the same, and it has a
very related name. Every little item on the window's outline just
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 04:14:07PM +0200, Eli Billauer wrote:
Because if you open KWord, you can't take it as anything else but a
clone of MS-Word. It looks the same, it feels the same, and it has a
very related name. Every little item on the window's outline just happen
to be exactly
Eli Billauer wrote:
Because if you open KWord, you can't take it as anything else but a
clone of MS-Word. It looks the same, it feels the same, and it has a
very related name. Every little item on the window's outline just
happen to be exactly where MS-Word put it. This can't be mistaken.
Just
Because if you open KWord, you can't take it as anything else but a
clone of MS-Word. It looks the same, it feels the same, and it has a
very related name. Every little item on the window's outline
just happen
to be exactly where MS-Word put it. This can't be mistaken.
So... don't open
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 05:50:37PM +0200, Alon Weinstein wrote:
So... don't open KWord! I don't use any Linux app which imitates the
(broken, IMHO) MS GUI interfaces. Neither KWord, nor evolution, nor
openoffice, nor name-your-favorite-MS-application-Linux-clone.
Care to list the
Quoth Alon Weinstein on Tue, Mar 04, 2003:
Care to list the alternative options? I can guess Lyx for document creation,
GIMP for image manipulation, but that's where my list ends. What are the
options to perform other common tasks:
-- Email Organizer (an only-email client is no replacement
Eli Billauer wrote:
And the other sad thing, is that Linux is risking its legitimate status
by offending laws of intellectual property. And for no reason at all.
IANAL, but I think Linux is taking the very same risk Microsoft is -
when they took the Mac OS look feel from Apple. Apple filed
On 2003-03-04, Eli Billauer wrote:
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
So... don't open KWord!
I had no choice. I had to see what Openoffice was, so I opened it. ;)
You are confused, I'm afraid. KWord is part of KOffice, which is part
of KDE. OpenWriter is part of OpenOffice, OSS derivative of Sun's
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
Eli Billauer wrote:
And the other sad thing, is that Linux is risking its legitimate
status
by offending laws of intellectual property. And for no reason at all.
IANAL, but I think Linux is taking the very same risk Microsoft is -
when they took the Mac OS look
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003, Eli Billauer wrote about Re: [Fwd: BSA Accuses OpenOffice
ftp sites of piracy]:
But the problem is not that some people want a WYSIWYG word processor,
or spreadsheets. Micro$oft doesn't have any rights on the WYSIWYG
concept. But if you call an application KWord
ok, i see that you understand what I sayd before I malied it...
sorry...
Again I agree, and that is why I fell in love with Linux. To extend my
previous point -- if there was some kind of a Graphics Interface
equivalent
to pipes so people could combine GUI-ed together as easily as doing
Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And about looking like MS-Word, do you also say that Mazda cars (say)
stole something from Ford, because Ford had the concept of a car, with
four wheels and an engine, before Mazda? Since when is honestly producing
competing products to successful
EB Whatever I think about IP laws, I can't escape the bare fact
EB that KWord violates quite a few of them.
When _I_ think about IP laws, I can't help thinking it is basically wrong
to give people ownership of ideas. This concept have gone way too far. If
someone discovered the fact that humans
On 2003-03-04, Vadim Vygonets wrote:
Quoth Alon Weinstein on Tue, Mar 04, 2003:
Care to list the alternative options? I can guess Lyx for document creation,
GIMP for image manipulation, but that's where my list ends. What are the
options to perform other common tasks:
-- Email
On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 22:05, Shoshannah Forbes wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think many people who despise MS (me among them) admit that they are
kings when it comes to GUI design and usability for non-technical users.
I guess you never used a Mac then...
Not recently. In fact I can't
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Not recently. In fact I can't remember when I actually used a Mac.
My clearest memory is circa Apple IIc and Mac 1 (Marc - it's when we
first met - do you remember what year it was?)
Certainly before '85. Probably before '83. Possibly around 81-82.
--
---MAV
SF Mac OS9 is one of the best UI out there for your grandma. OSX does a
Maybe for grandma, I don't know, had no chance to ever teach my grandma
computers... But as for me, the mac OS appeared to me first very much
unusable. The concept of one application per system is rather confusing
- where are
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:44:21 +0200 (IST)
Stanislav Malyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
EB Whatever I think about IP laws, I can't escape the bare fact
EB that KWord violates quite a few of them.
(EB) declares his hypothesis a fact :-)
When _I_ think about IP laws, I can't help thinking it is
Beni Cherniavsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Isn't rsh with an empty password a good replacement for Outlook? :-(
No. The r in rsh stands for restricted...
--
Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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