Re: aic7xxx interrupt sharing - was RE: current RAID state-of-the-art?

2000-04-16 Thread Mike Bilow
Heinz Christian wrote: > > > From: Mike Bilow[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > The aic7xxx driver really does not like to share an IRQ. > Have you enabled the MP-APIC-Support? > > We have several machines each with 5 or more AIC7xxx channels with APIC > en

Re: current RAID state-of-the-art?

2000-04-13 Thread Mike Bilow
In theory yes, in practice no. The aic7xxx is a high-performance, time-critical driver. If you make it share an IRQ, then it loses a certain amount of control to its brother drivers. This is especially annoying with motherboards which have both embedded aic7xx and Ethernet hardware on board, as

Re: The meaning of this?

2000-04-13 Thread Mike Bilow
I think it means you tried to run fsck across an area being resynced. -- Mike On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello! > > This is what I got in the dmesg after my machine with raid5 crashed again: > > set_blocksize: b_count 1, dev md(9,0), block 245! > set_blocksize: b_count 1,

Re: current RAID state-of-the-art?

2000-04-13 Thread Mike Bilow
The aic7xxx driver really does not like to share an IRQ. -- Mike On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Morten Bøgeskov wrote: > I've done this and added dvd-ide, reiser & supermount. But this is not > really working 8). Does anybody else have the problem that an insmod > aic7xxx (which is my boot controller) r

Re: Please help - when is a bad disk a bad disk?

2000-04-12 Thread Mike Bilow
On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Darren Nickerson wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, "Lance" == D. Lance Robinson wrote: > > Lance> So, if the md driver doesn't fail a drive that is because the lower > Lance> levels have taken care of all the nitty details and have supposedly > Lance> performed the r

re: Power supply for multiple disks

2000-04-08 Thread Mike Bilow
On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Edward Schernau wrote: > Mike Bilow wrote: > > > > Drives use by far more instantaneous current to spin up then they > need to > > run in active idle mode. A big, modern IDE drive can consume > about 2.0A > > [Excellent analysis trimmed]

Re: panic on boot when / (raid-1) was not unmounted

2000-04-08 Thread Mike Bilow
Not only is it perfectly reproducible on your machine, it was on mine, too! Get the new kernel patch from Ingo Molnar: http://people.redhat.com/mingo/raid-patches/raid-2.2.14-B1 and the accompanying tools: http://people.redhat.com/mingo/raid-patches/raidtools-dangerous-0.90-20

Re: Raid 5 problems - disk keeps failing, but no obvious errors

2000-04-08 Thread Mike Bilow
Do you see anything in the log? SCSI parity error, for example? With three identical drives on the same controller, that rules out a lot of issues that could arise. If you are seeing the same drive being marked bad over and over, and it takes days for that to happen, I would look at (1) termina

Re: Mylex AcceleRAID 250 dropped dead [2.2.14]

2000-04-08 Thread Mike Bilow
I have to agree with Leonard (big surprise)... we have had two large server machines in continuous service for a while with the Mylex RAID controllers, busy 24 hours a day, and we have never seen anything that approaches the problems you are describing. My bet is also hardware. -- Mike On Fri,

Re: Power Supply for multiple disks?

2000-04-07 Thread Mike Bilow
Drives use by far more instantaneous current to spin up then they need to run in active idle mode. A big, modern IDE drive can consume about 2.0A to spin up, but probably no more than 0.5A to sit in active idle. (Note that the "." is a decimal point; I'm in the USA.) For example, I looked up th

Re: Power Supply for multiple disks?

2000-04-07 Thread Mike Bilow
Why on earth would you even bother with RAID on a machine which can experience 30 minutes of idle time? We only use RAID for machines which run web servers, mail servers, name servers, and things like this. Such machines here never exeperience even a solid minute of idle time. -- Mike On Thu,

Re: LILO error with a raid-1 /

2000-04-07 Thread Mike Bilow
I am not sure if anyone actually answered your question. Here is a lilo.conf that worked for me: boot=/dev/md0 root=/dev/md0 install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map delay=20 vga=normal append="panic=120" lba32 default=Linux image=/boot/vmlinuz label=Linux read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz

Re: Redundant servers with RAID

2000-04-04 Thread Mike Bilow
I think you want: http://www.linux-ha.org/ In general, it is better to have two independent servers that replicate data back and forth than to try to put multiple initiators on a common storage bus. SCSI does allow this in theory, but as far as I know Linux does implement the necessary commands

Re: automatic writes..

2000-04-04 Thread Mike Bilow
Did you leave the "update" daemon running? -- Mike On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Paramasivam Kartik wrote: > Hi everybody, > > this is a question about the linux source code. > > i want to test my modified raid code for reads only. > Once after every couple of read requests, > a write request is auto

Re: Copying partition information

2000-04-03 Thread Mike Bilow
In general, no. There is a master partition table which occupies the first sector of the device and which could therefore be copied. However, this master partition table may link to other "extended" partition tables which can be anywhere on the drive. I have not tested this, but I assume someth

Re: suggested changes to raid tools

2000-04-03 Thread Mike Bilow
I have a related idea. If all of the information in a raidtab can be derived from a persistent superblock, there should be a tool that allows generating an actual raidtab file by reading a persistent superblock. This would be especially useful for dianostic procedures. Also, is there any downsid

Ideas for swapping on RAID (was: multiple partitions)

2000-04-02 Thread Mike Bilow
On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, Mike Bilow wrote: > On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Michael wrote: > > hmmm. the remirroring code is not very smart... as I recall it > > does the remirroring in order .. i.e. md0, md1, etc... This would > > imply that if you have a power fail or other c

Re: clustering with raid

2000-04-01 Thread Mike Bilow
http://linux-ha.org/ -- Mike On Sun, 2 Apr 2000, octave klaba wrote: > Hi, > We are looking for the hardware/software solutions to make > clustering on Linux. We want to have 2 servers with 1 raid > storage or a solution to write on 2 servers in the same time.

RE: multiple partitions

2000-03-31 Thread Mike Bilow
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Michael wrote: > > /dev/md0/dev/hda1 + /dev/hdc129.7 GBRAID-1 > > /dev/md1/dev/hda2 + /dev/hdc2 0.3 GBRAID-1 > > > > We use /dev/md0 for the root fs and /dev/md1 for swap. Why? > > Because it takes about 90 minutes to remirror /dev/md0 and only > >

Re: root on RAID

2000-03-31 Thread Mike Bilow
You are missing that nasty "--absolute-paths" ("-P") switch on tar to preserve the leading slash. It may or may not be what you want. In general, a better approach is to tell tar to make a particular directory the current directory before executing, using the "--directory" ("-C") switch. For ex

RE: multiple partitions

2000-03-31 Thread Mike Bilow
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Michael wrote: > > /dev/md0/dev/hda1 + /dev/hdc129.7 GBRAID-1 > > /dev/md1/dev/hda2 + /dev/hdc2 0.3 GBRAID-1 > > > > We use /dev/md0 for the root fs and /dev/md1 for swap. Why? > > Because it takes about 90 minutes to remirror /dev/md0 and only > >

Re: Disk v. Tape Backup -- Re: root on RAID

2000-03-31 Thread Mike Bilow
Why are you backing up? What if your machine catches fire? What if your office catches fire? What if someone steals your machine? What if your power supply sends mains voltage to every device in the case? -- Mike On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Jeff Hill wrote: > I know this is off-topic, but since i

Re: root on RAID

2000-03-31 Thread Mike Bilow
Probably because the installer does not handle it. I have been working on the Debian end of the same issue, and the problems pretty much amount to this, based on the current potato snapshot: 1. The kernel has to be patched with the newest RAID v0.90 code and rebuilt, and then put onto the first

RE: multiple partitions

2000-03-31 Thread Mike Bilow
I think there is rarely a valid reason to split a single disk system into multiple small partitions. In fact, the Multi-Disk HOWTO agrees: In fact, for single physical drives this scheme offers very little gains at all, other than making file growth monitoring easier (usi

Re: ext2resize

2000-03-29 Thread Mike Bilow
I would think that a block device is a block device from the point of view of software like this, so I cannot see any reason to expect a block device created by software RAID to look any different to it. That said, I have never tried it, so take my advice with a grain of salt. -- Mike On Wed,

Re: IO-APIC interrupts (was System Hangs -- Which Is...)

2000-03-29 Thread Mike Bilow
AIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Mike Bilow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >...snip.. > >However, if you have IO-APIC support enabled in the CMOS setup > >and in the Linux kernel, there should be no need for assignment > >of shared interrupts. > >...snip... > >

re: aic7xxx, SMP, "providence" board

2000-03-29 Thread Mike Bilow
ture of IO-APIC. Hi, Neighbor! -- Mike -- --- Bilow Computer Science, Inc. | http://www.bilow.com/ | Michael S. Bilow Cranston, RI 02920-5554, USA | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Raid-Related System Locks

2000-03-29 Thread Mike Bilow
I am no RAID expert, but I know a SCSI bus hang when I see one. A suggestions which I am sure everyone will make: 1. Try the 2.2.14 kernel with the newer patch: http://people.redhat.com/mingo/raid-patches/raid-2.2.14-B1 And a few of my own: 2. Try booting with kernel argument "aic7xxx

Re: Problems again

2000-03-28 Thread Mike Bilow
Danilo Godec wrote: > > On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Mike Bilow wrote: > > > I think you have an electrical issue. > > I feared that, but what should I do? It's all LVD and all pre-installed by > Intel... except disks, of course. Call for warranty service, I would think

Re: single vs raid soft

2000-03-28 Thread Mike Bilow
On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, octave klaba wrote: > > Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU > > > > 1° 2000 9212 96.4 20354 13.9 4411 3.6 3822 35.4 22180 8.0 85.6 0.7 > > > > 2° 2000 1727 22.4 2095 5.5 1381 34.9 3070 98.6 4320 97.8 74.8 7.3 > > > > 3° 2

Re: Problems again

2000-03-28 Thread Mike Bilow
APIC-level aic7xxx, aic7xxx * * * > 1400-14be : aic7xxx > 1800-18be : aic7xxx Are you really running two separate aic7xxx controllers? Do they have the same firmware revision? -- Mike -- --- Bilow Computer S

Re: single vs raid soft

2000-03-28 Thread Mike Bilow
On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Jakob Østergaard wrote: > On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, octave klaba wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > a test between single ide <-> raid-1 soft ide <-> raid-1 soft scsi-2 > > > > 1° PIII600/128RAM/1XIDE20.5 > > 2° PIII600/128RAM/2XIDE20.5 raid-1 soft > > 3° PIII500/256/29

Re: System Hangs -- Which Is Most Stable Kernel?

2000-03-28 Thread Mike Bilow
The aic7xxx driver is definitely unstable in my experience on SMP when shared interrupts are used. It will usually hang on boot in this case. This is an especially annoying problem because many SMP motherboards will insist on assigning interrupts automatically; Intel and Supermicro are particul

Re: Swapping onto RAID: Good idea?

2000-03-28 Thread Mike Bilow
I have not really done this yet, but if [ ! -e /proc/mdstat ] || \ [ `grep -ci resync /proc/mdstat` -eq 0 ] ; then swapon -a fi seems like a reasonable approach. Martin Bene posted a slightly different variant which waits until remirroring is done and then st

Re: How to specify /dev/md0 as root device?

2000-03-25 Thread Mike Bilow
t free to experiment. -- Mike On Sat, 25 Mar 2000, Mike Bilow wrote: > Unfortunately, the boot floppy fails out with a kernel panic about being > unable to mount the root filesystem. The ssyslinux.cfg file does > correctly specify "root=/dev/md0" and the VFS message reports tha

How to specify /dev/md0 as root device?

2000-03-25 Thread Mike Bilow
Starting with the Debian Potato Rescue/Root disks, I replaced the kernel with a custom build of 2.2.14 with Ingo's patches. I booted from this modified Debian install set and (using fdisk) manually created two type 0xFD partitions, /dev/hda1 and /dev/hdc2. I then ran mkraid and linked these two

Swapping onto RAID: Good idea?

2000-03-25 Thread Mike Bilow
What is the consensus opinion about whether swapping onto RAID is a good idea? I understand from various people who should know that swapping onto RAID can be unstable when actually remirroring. Does anyone have personal experience with this issue? I am building a dual-IDE system with two ident

Kernel panic: B_FREE inserted into queues

2000-03-24 Thread Mike Bilow
I am extremely inexperienced with software RAID, so please don't flame me if this message comes arcross as evidence of outright idiocy. I prefer to think the line between idiocy and adventurousness is just very thin. I built a custom kernel using the 2.2.14 source and applying the most recent pa